Installing factory roof rack on 95 4runner...

JohnoDotCA

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Going to be installing a roof rack on my 95. I managed to salvage a stock roof rack from a 1990, I've since cleaned it up and repainted it. I've got my nutserts and silicone ready to rock but the dealership says that they can't get the mounting templates any more so I'm on my own for the placement and drilling.

So I have a couple of questions...

Is the placement of the rack (front-back) critical if I can manage to get the rack centered (left-right)?

If the placement of the rack (front-back) is critical (i.e. there are specific mounting points on the roof supports), what is my margin of error?

If the placement of the rack (front-back) isn't critical, can someone give me a fairly accurate measurement from a fixed point (i.e. the top outermost corner of the rear windshield wiper rest) to the rear outermost corner of the passenger side roof rack rail....

If anyone can think of any other ways to position the rack/rivnuts I'm open to suggestions....

Cheers!
 
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Anyone? Even if someone could post up some pics of their installed 2nd gen roof rack it would be a big help. Then I could at least approximate it's mounting position.
 
self installed roof rack

I placed my factory roof toward the front- I am a skier , so better access to the ski rack. The install was easy. you need to get a nutsert tool from harbor freight. Use the rack as a drill guide, dont forget a drill collar, insert the 1/4-20 nut sert in the predriledl holes. Will take about an hour. I am in Rialto Cal if you need any help. M y truck is at the shop- replacing the engine I can have pictures on Wendsday
Willy

sorry I saw CA and thought it was sunny California not Vancouver CA
 
I placed my factory roof toward the front- I am a skier , so better access to the ski rack. The install was easy. you need to get a nutsert tool from harbor freight. Use the rack as a drill guide, dont forget a drill collar, insert the 1/4-20 nut sert in the predriledl holes. Will take about an hour. I am in Rialto Cal if you need any help. M y truck is at the shop- replacing the engine I can have pictures on Wendsday
Willy

sorry I saw CA and thought it was sunny California not Vancouver CA


Can I assume that the headliner's out?.........
 
Anyone? Even if someone could post up some pics of their installed 2nd gen roof rack it would be a big help. Then I could at least approximate it's mounting position.

I've just bought a 95 with a top rack. I'll see about getting you some pics of it tomorrow.
 
no need for the headliner removal

The Nutsert does not go beyond the headliner- hence the need for a drill collar. Easy easy job. drill the holes, pop the nutserts, screw on the roof rack. no problems- small chance of doing it wrong:bravo:
 
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Does this help? Little frost on the pumpkin this morning....

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That's perfect! Thanks so much.... there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of info regarding the stock racks floating around, I'll try and take lots of pictures of the install and post em up afterwards.
 
Well, finally got the rack installed this past weekend. Unfortunately I was racing a rainstorm to get it installed so I wasn't able to take any pictures. I will however post up some instructions....

I started with a stock rack from a 1991 Runner ($50 on Craigslist). It has seen it's share of use and abuse and was looking a bit weathered, so my first task was giving it a good clean up. I scrubbed it down with some soap and water, removed the plastic end caps, and all of the sliders from the rails. I then used a scotchbright bad to scuff the finish and clean up irregularities from chipping etc. I threw on two new coats of black paint, let cure, scuffed the flat surfaces and added three or four coats of clear.

Total cost at this point, about $65.

Next step: Drilling.....

After reassembling the rack, I positioned it using "JV's" pictures above. Nothing magical here. Just a lot of measuring and comparing to the images. Once I had the rack more or less centered I secured it to the roof with masking tape and center punched the drill holes. !!POINT OF NO RETURN!! I then drilled 8 pilot holes in the punched locations, ran a strip of two inch masking tape down the center of the racks future location and masked the roof off with newpaper to protect the finish from the metal shavings. I then poked holes in the tape where the pilot holes were located. Depending on the Rivnuts you use, I chose some 1/4-20 stainless, with 1/4-20 rivnuts, your final bore with either be 3/8 or 25/64, use a proper gauge and triple check! Once you're satisfied that you've got it right, drill away!

** I used a long piece of tape to create a stop about half and inch up the drill bit so I didn't accidentally drill through the headliner.

Next step: Rivnuts (nutserts)

After removing the newspaper and masking tape from the roof, ensure that you've got nice clean drill holes. I took some time to touch up the finish around the drill holes with some touch up paint before continuing. Silicon is your friend! I applied a healthy dollop of silicon around the drill holes, and on the rivnut itself, then install using whichever method you choose (Hand tool or pneumatic). The silicon gets the tool a little messy, but I'd rather have to take a bit of extra time to clean up the tools, than have a leaky roof.

*I had access to a pneumatic rivnut gun, so I was able to use stainless rivnuts, if you're using a hand tool they can be pretty difficult to install, especially with the short handle on the Rivnut hand tools. If you're using a hand tools, you might want to pick up some of the softer aluminum rivnuts.

*If you're using a hand tool, make sure that you thread the rivnut completely onto the tools threads, if you strip out the threads trying to install it, you're going to have to drill it out and then drop the headliner to retrieve the lower part of the rivnut. They're also super hard to drill because if it's not properly installed it will rotate in it's drill hole. PITA!!

Total cost at this point, $75

Next step: Installation!

I went to the local hardware store and picked up some Phillips head stainless steel bolts. (4) 1.5" 1/4-20 for the four ends (needed a little longer bolts for the ends as they bolt through the plastic endcaps) and (4) 1" 1/4-20 for the intermediate bolts in the rail channels. I put some loctite on the threads of the Rivnuts to keep them secured, and a bead of silicon around the bottom of the head of the bolts for a little bit of added water protection.

*I wasn't too concerned about being able to slide the three intermediate crossbars around, so I used button cap bolts.

Total cost of install $90 including rack, tool rental and hardware. Quote from stealership: $200+ for installation alone.

Next step: Enjoy!

Sorry about not taking any pictures, but hopefully this will help someone who is in the same boat I was in. There doesn't seem to be much information out there regarding installing stock roof racks. It's a pretty unnerving experience drilling holes in a perfectly good roof so make sure you quadruple check your measurements!!!!
 
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rack in front pictures

Here is my roof rack placement
 

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