Interior smell, can't find source

SoCal35

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Ok so I bought a used 4Runner about two weeks ago. It smelled kinda funky, not like the first time when I saw the vehicle before deciding to buy. Saw some ants crawling around the day of purchase but assumed maybe the previous owner parked under a tree or something. About two days go by and my rig is covered in ants. I followed some ants along the sills of the driver side doors, up along the top of the rear gate, along the weather strip/roof rack on the top of the passenger side, down the top edge of the front passenger door and into the engine bay. There I discovers a bunch of ants rioting on the top of the painted wheel well. I searched for dead animals in the engine bay but nothing. Other than the ants, it's clean.

Used ant spray and it temporarily got rid of the ants. Two days later I see ants in a trail on top of the dash entering the vent area where the windshield defogger is. Killed those ants, now I'm assuming there is something dead in that area causing the smell. When I cleaned and shampooed the interior I did find what I think was the stain of melted chocolate in the crack between the bottom seat cushion and back rest of the passenger seat. You could only see that with the seat fully reclined back. No ants were in this area though. I thought that could have been adding to the smell so I cleaned that all up.

Before I get more off track, how can I open up the area near the bottom of the windshield behind the dash? There has to be something dead causing the smell (which has reduced and isn't as bad, but still...). The dealership checked it out and couldn't find anything anywhere else in the hvac system. They said it would cost a lot for the labor to rip it apart. Any suggestions?

I've already removed the seats to clean the carpet, around the bolt areas, the seats themselves, the cabin air filter and fan/motor behind the glove compartment, and also visually inspected the cowl at the base of the windshield on the outside. Please help!
 
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Could just be mold/mildew in the HVAC system. I usually treat my Trucks HVAC system every couple years to clean them. unfortunately with the ac system running a lot mildew starts easily.

Look for frigifreeze or the 1Z climate control cleaner. See if it helps.
 
Could just be mold/mildew in the HVAC system. I usually treat my Trucks HVAC system every couple years to clean them. unfortunately with the ac system running a lot mildew starts easily.

Look for frigifreeze or the 1Z climate control cleaner. See if it helps.

I'll give this a shot. Do you think ants would go for mold or mildew though?
 
may sound crazy but sprinkle cinnamon in your interior along the door sills and in the cago area. Even under the hood. It will get rid of the ants.
 
The ants are all gone but the smell is what lingers. I'm just trying to figure out a way to get to the vent areas at the base of the windshield from the interior. I appreciate the responses though!
 
I think the only way would to be to have the windshield removed. But it on fresy air and defrost, buy some Ozium at wall mart and spray the piss out of it. Let it air out and see if it comes back. Sorry, but that really stinks (pun intended)
 
Ok so I bought a used 4Runner about two weeks ago. It smelled kinda funky, not like the first time when I saw the vehicle before deciding to buy. Saw some ants crawling around the day of purchase but assumed maybe the previous owner parked under a tree or something. About two days go by and my rig is covered in ants. I followed some ants along the sills of the driver side doors, up along the top of the rear gate, along the weather strip/roof rack on the top of the passenger side, down the top edge of the front passenger door and into the engine bay. There I discovers a bunch of ants rioting on the top of the painted wheel well. I searched for dead animals in the engine bay but nothing. Other than the ants, it's clean.

Used ant spray and it temporarily got rid of the ants. Two days later I see ants in a trail on top of the dash entering the vent area where the windshield defogger is. Killed those ants, now I'm assuming there is something dead in that area causing the smell. When I cleaned and shampooed the interior I did find what I think was the stain of melted chocolate in the crack between the bottom seat cushion and back rest of the passenger seat. You could only see that with the seat fully reclined back. No ants were in this area though. I thought that could have been adding to the smell so I cleaned that all up.

Before I get more off track, how can I open up the area near the bottom of the windshield behind the dash? There has to be something dead causing the smell (which has reduced and isn't as bad, but still...). The dealership checked it out and couldn't find anything anywhere else in the hvac system. They said it would cost a lot for the labor to rip it apart. Any suggestions?

I've already removed the seats to clean the carpet, around the bolt areas, the seats themselves, the cabin air filter and fan/motor behind the glove compartment, and also visually inspected the cowl at the base of the windshield on the outside. Please help!


Hopefully that was actually was chocolate in the passenger seat!
Seriously though Ozium is your friend!
 
The ants are all gone but the smell is what lingers. I'm just trying to figure out a way to get to the vent areas at the base of the windshield from the interior. I appreciate the responses though!

If you look at the 1z product I mentioned it comes with a 16" long tube used for going down the HVAC vents. Who knows what the previous owner did. But at the same time replace the cabin filter which is located behind the glove box.
 
Hopefully that was actually was chocolate in the passenger seat!
Seriously though Ozium is your friend!

That's what I was thinking! But I grew a pair and decided to sniff it. Smelled sugary so I figured it was chocolate... but I guess I'll never know :toilet:

If you look at the 1z product I mentioned it comes with a 16" long tube used for going down the HVAC vents. Who knows what the previous owner did. But at the same time replace the cabin filter which is located behind the glove box.

Sounds like this is the plan. I'll give that stuff a shot. As for the cabin filter, I'll probably pick one up today. I checked it last time to see if I found any evidence of a possible rodent but nothing, so I vacuumed it really quick and put it back.

Thanks guys for the suggestions!
 
may sound crazy but sprinkle cinnamon in your interior along the door sills and in the cago area. Even under the hood. It will get rid of the ants.

And every time you turn on the heat, your 4runner will smell like Cinna-Bon.

I call that "Win-win!"
 
And every time you turn on the heat, your 4runner will smell like Cinna-Bon.

I call that "Win-win!"

well now i have to go to the mall for some cinnabons....thanks.

Ozium will definitely help. they use it at the dealer i worked at for odors that wouldnt go away.
 
So I couldn't find the 1Z stuff but I tried Lysol and some time later, Ozium. Used these items through the vents and it worked... Stepped back into the Runner this morning and the smell was there again but quickly went away as soon as I turned the AC on. I still have no idea what the source of the smell is!
 
I'll be sure to check out those 1z links. The smell is becoming more faint. I'm hoping that I can get rid of it completely within the week. If not I'll give the 1z a shot.
 
This thread reminds me of the time a friend of mine had been dating a girl for a while and he asked me one day how to approach her about an odor issue. I have never been stumped before with any kind of question like I was with that one. I still don't know what the right answer is.
 

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