iPhone 5 - Who's in?

[GX4SEVEND]

Actually, with an iPhone, you can upgrade your iPhone EVERY YEAR. For example, my iPhone 4S is worth $395 if i sell it on Amazon (which is very easy to do). After one year, your ETF (early termination fee) is half since it is pro-rated. So, for Sprint, that is about $150 after one year. You cancel Sprint's contract, pay the ETF. Then, turn around and sign a new 2-year contract with Sprint again...getting the same phone number and pay $200 for a new iPhone (if you like 16 GB).

Just do this every year. The iPhone pays for itself...and more!

Not sure if that's just sprint but if you came into my store to do that you'd not only lose your number, since you cancelled you line, the sales rep doing the sale could be liable for commissions fraud. So I don't recommend this route.

 

[Thai]

Not sure if that's just sprint but if you came into my store to do that you'd not only lose your number, since you cancelled you line, the sales rep doing the sale could be liable for commissions fraud. So I don't recommend this route.

Go to another store. There is nothing illegal from the customer's perspective.

 

[the_josh]

How are you able to keep your number if you just straight up cancel the contract?

 

[Thai]

How are you able to keep your number if you just straight up cancel the contract?

I thought that you can since you can keep same number when switching carriers.

 

[IanB]

I thought that you can since you can keep same number when switching carriers.

You would have to get your number "ported" over to the new carrier, which means there can be no lapse in your service from the old carrier, or your old number is gone. If you let your service lapse, your old number can't be re-used for a period of time (I have no idea how long), so you can't have it back.

Unless your contract has expired, there will be cancellation charges associated with porting your number to a new carrier.

 

[Thai]

IanB, thx for clarification. I stand corrected. The fee (when switching carriers) can be paid for when selling your old iPhone.

 

[Thai]

Scores were just updated. At the time of posting the S3 was rated 1560. :shrug:

You're not crazy...here is the original i think: http://www.subarusvx.com/Android-Benchmarks.gif

1560 may have been with ICS (4.0)...while 16xx score is with Jellybean (4.1) software.

 

[-JD-]

You're not crazy...here is the original i think: http://www.subarusvx.com/Android-Benchmarks.gif

1560 may have been with ICS (4.0)...while 16xx score is with Jellybean (4.1) software.

yea, a quick google search reveals that story was posted all over the place.

Either way its a 'take it with a grain of salt' type of thing as only one iphone benchmark was posted, we dont know if it was even real and comparing android to iOS geekbench scores isn't always the most accurate comparison.

 

[Thai]

Here is an excellent article on A6: Apple using custom ARM core for A6 to balance performance/watt | Ars Technica

 

[Thai]

iPhone 5 review: iPhone 5 review -- Engadget

"Two times faster? Twice the graphics performance? Better battery life? Actually, yes. The iPhone 5 over-delivers on all those promises. Running the Geekbench test suite on the iPhone 4S gave us an average score of 634. The iPhone 5 netted an average of 1,628. That's more than twice as fast and, while you won't necessarily see such huge increases in day-to-day usage, apps do load noticeably quicker, HDR images are processed in half the time and tasks like video rendering in iMovie are equally expedient.

SunSpider scores average at 924ms, which is more than twice as fast as the 2,200ms the iPhone 4S manages and still quite a bit quicker than the 1,400ms scored by the Galaxy S III and the 1,700ms managed by the HTC One X."

"Power is nothing without longevity and, shockingly, the iPhone 5 copes amazingly well. In a day of heavy usage with LTE, GPS and WiFi all enabled, we managed 14 hours and 18 minutes before the phone succumbed to the elements.

On our standard battery rundown test, in which we loop a video with LTE and WiFi enabled and social accounts pinging at regular intervals, the iPhone 5 managed a hugely impressive 11 hours and 15 minutes. That's just 10 minutes shy of the Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx."

Power and efficiency in one! arty:

 

[stanleybb50]

iPhone 5 review: iPhone 5 review -- Engadget

"Two times faster? Twice the graphics performance? Better battery life? Actually, yes. The iPhone 5 over-delivers on all those promises. Running the Geekbench test suite on the iPhone 4S gave us an average score of 634. The iPhone 5 netted an average of 1,628. That's more than twice as fast and, while you won't necessarily see such huge increases in day-to-day usage, apps do load noticeably quicker, HDR images are processed in half the time and tasks like video rendering in iMovie are equally expedient.

SunSpider scores average at 924ms, which is more than twice as fast as the 2,200ms the iPhone 4S manages and still quite a bit quicker than the 1,400ms scored by the Galaxy S III and the 1,700ms managed by the HTC One X."

"Power is nothing without longevity and, shockingly, the iPhone 5 copes amazingly well. In a day of heavy usage with LTE, GPS and WiFi all enabled, we managed 14 hours and 18 minutes before the phone succumbed to the elements.

On our standard battery rundown test, in which we loop a video with LTE and WiFi enabled and social accounts pinging at regular intervals, the iPhone 5 managed a hugely impressive 11 hours and 15 minutes. That's just 10 minutes shy of the Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx."

Power and efficiency in one! arty:

Still looove my s3, but there is absolutely no doubt the iphone 5 will kick a**. Thanks for sharing.

 

[CookieRoe]

iPhone 5 unlimited data plan.................

Not sure if this has been covered, but for those (me) who have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, WAIT until the phone is available for public sale. DO NOT preorder if not, you will loose your unlimited data plan!

I've gone to the Apple store and was told NOT to pre-order the 5. As long as you don't change anything with the plan itself, the unlimited plan will be grandfathered to the 5.

Dude at AT&T store told me pretty much the same thing. DO NOT pre-order the 5, come in when it's available and explain to the salesperson your plan.

 

[04rnr]

please dont take this the wrong way,, but whats so special about the new iphone ? whats it do that my droid cant ?
and is it true, that if you drop or brake the phone, you have to buy a new one ? meaning no replacement plans on the iphones ?

 

[Thai]

please dont take this the wrong way,, but whats so special about the new iphone ? whats it do that my droid cant ?
and is it true, that if you drop or brake the phone, you have to buy a new one ? meaning no replacement plans on the iphones ?

If you had to ask....

 

[Stgo2019]

Not sure if this has been covered, but for those (me) who have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, WAIT until the phone is available for public sale. DO NOT preorder if not, you will loose your unlimited data plan!

I've gone to the Apple store and was told NOT to pre-order the 5. As long as you don't change anything with the plan itself, the unlimited plan will be grandfathered to the 5.

Dude at AT&T store told me pretty much the same thing. DO NOT pre-order the 5, come in when it's available and explain to the salesperson your plan.

I spoke to an AT&T rep the day it was available for pre-order. He said that my unlimited plan would not change since I was grandfathered in. I have a copy of the conversation just in case there is a problem with my billing when I get my phone.

 

[GX4SEVEND]

Go to another store. There is nothing illegal from the customer's perspective.

I do like that you back up your claims with research and admit when you were wrong but this is just plain bad advice. No offense, but youre talking about fraud and can get someone terminated. That's their livelihood and way of living, so you can have a new phone.

Since you are now aware that you can't just cancel a line, keep the number and go wherever, I hope this still isn't your plan and you see how it effects not only the company but the individual who works there.

Either way......it's an awesome device and I hope you enjoy yours when you get it, I know I will.

 

[Thai]

05LTD, for me, I have two lines every year that is upgradeable. So, I don't need to use my advice for new iPhones.

However, there is nothing illegal with my advice. Do you think that the carriers are so kind to their customers? And frankly, since it is NOT illegal, the person on the other side of the counter should be ok too...but like you said, I just go to a different store. Why do you think there is early termination fee for??? Why do you think that customers have to pay for charges up front and one month in advance?? Why do you think that they nickel & dime you when you sign up with all kinds of charges and setup fees??

Carriers are not losing any money. They are getting the extra setup charges, the one year of payment (on the 2 year contract), AND early termination fee. How much is an iPhone MSRP? $650 for 16 gb model. You paid $200 under contract already for it. ETF is (prorated after one year) is $175 (on Sprint). How much do you pay a month for the plan? Sprint is at least $80/month with iPhone (NOT including various taxes and fees). After one year, you have paid $960 just for using the carrier, again this is excluding fees since i want to keep this simple. Yes, some of that $960 pays for cell towers and technology. But, you still think that if i end my service after one year AND pay ETF, the carrier is losing money??? The carrier only needs $275 to break even [(650- (200 + 175)]. You just paid them $960 (monthly bill total after one year) + $200 (price of iPhone when you signed contract) + $175 (ETF) = $1335. $1335 - $275 = $1060 in PROFIT (at the very least) after only one year. This is PER customer. Who's coming out ahead again???

I admitted that I was wrong with the phone number, but not with my advice.

 

[Thai]

Another quick review: With iPhone 5, Apple Has Chiseled The Smartphone To Near Perfection | TechCrunch

 

[Thai]

CNET: iPhone 5 Review - CNET Reviews

 

[Koz]

Can you see how you lose credibility when your story changes so quickly? One minute the S3 is better, then some evidence appears and now we have to wait and see.

Also, you lose credibility with me as soon as you use the "kool-aid" or "iSheep" or "cult" arguments. Do you really believe that this record breaking company with amazing customer retention and satisfaction is all because of some sort of massive international level of delusion? can you see how that is not a very credible argument?

Exactly what I said!

iPhone 5 benchmarks: Slower than the Galaxy S3, faster than the Nexus 7 | ExtremeTech

Koz