JBD's '97 Sunfire Red SR5 T4R

jbrentd

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Hello, I'm new to the forum and wanted to introduce myself and start a maintenance and mild build thread for my new (to me) 4Runner. My name is Brent and I live in NE Oklahoma with my wife and two boys. I'm a longtime fan of Audis, but have recently found that I prefer the ability to take my DD off-road...if the opportunity presents itself. I like to hunt and fish and got tired of dodging potholes and worrying about ground clearance issues. I've been in a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee for the past year, but recently sold it off to purchase this one. The WJ was in great condition, but wasn't what I wanted for the long term.

As I bought it...
It's a '97 SR5 with 224k miles on the clock. Sunfire Red Pearl with gray cloth interior. I found it online at a Subaru dealer in Wichita, which is about 3 hrs from me. I normally do not like to buy from dealers, but the salesman knew the previous owner and it was clear that this one was really well taken care of. Most new car dealerships that take a 20 year old car with 224k miles in on trade would send it off to auction in a heartbeat. So, the fact that they took the time to clean it up and keep it on their lot made me think it was worth a closer look. They put it on a lift and sent me a ton of pictures of the under carriage. After negotiating over the phone, I went to Wichita to bring it home last Friday (11/10/17).

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It had been serviced at the dealership and came with a list of regular maintenance records. Out of all those maintenance records, I’m not sure when the timing belt was last changed. So, that will be on the list of to-dos. It has nearly new wheels (KMCs) and tires (BFG KO2s) on it. They are 265/75-16 tires and 16”x8” et0 offset wheels.

Questions
  1. I noticed that the license plate surround is a silver color. Not sure it matters much, but I’ll probably dip it black. I wonder if this means the hatch came from a limited model and isn't original?
  2. It’s got a case of the saggy butt and the rear springs will need to be replaced (at a minimum). I am thinking of a 2-inch lift, but not sure which one to go with yet. My VIN is eligible for the recall and I was wondering if they are reimbursing for the labor for owners that have upgraded the rear springs?
  3. Anyone got a DIY on swapping the front seat bottoms?

Most Current Picture

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Maintenance & Mods To-Date
  • Removed the running boards
  • Swap the front seat bottoms
  • 99+ center console swap with ECT/rear window switch relocation
  • Husky floor mats (Thanks 2017 Secret Santa!!)
  • OME 880/906 2" lift kit
  • Diff drop kit
  • Front mud flaps
  • New battery
  • Removed and painted the chrome flares and bumpers
  • Proclip iPhone mount
  • Gentex 313 review mirror with Homelink, Temperature and Compass
  • Front row window tint
  • Bypassed rear heater (will install new hoses in the Spring)
  • Pioneer head unit with hands-free calling and Bluetooth audio

Future plans
  • Timing belt
  • Projector retrofits
  • I'm sure this list will grow...
 
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So, I called the dealer to see if the rear spring recall had been done on my truck. I figured a free replacement would buy me some time for a while. Turns out the rear springs were replaced in 2006...so that's a no go. Therefore, I'm on the hunt for a lift kit.

I'm leaning towards the OME 880/906 kit. Toytec has a 10% off sale going on right now.

I also have a couple small things on the way, like front mud flaps and a like new set of grey floor mats I found on eBay.
 
Welcome! I am jealous of the color of your 4Runner, ive always been a huge fan... Looks like you have a good starting point and I'm curious as to where you take it!
 
Nice score, looks very clean. Those wheels/tires will look killer with a little bit of lift!


Thanks. It looks a little sad with the saggy ass. Steering isn't very good right now either. It wanders a lot.


Welcome! I am jealous of the color of your 4Runner, ive always been a huge fan... Looks like you have a good starting point and I'm curious as to where you take it!


Thanks.
 
Research the slip joint in the steering colum that gets loose, the fix is to tack weld it. Mine was loose and it made a MASSIVE difference in steering feel when I fixed mine. Went from hating to drive it to loving it.
 
Nice rig great base to build on. Inside looks just like mine does down to worn drivers seat. I have the OME 881 890 lift from Toytec and I love it, performs great off road and 4 wheeling and rides great on the street. Had it on the truck for over 3 years and the rear still is not sagging and the shocks have held up well. Oh gray plate frame is normal no matter what color the exterior is or SR5 or Limited models, mine is a 97 SR5 White and the plate frame is gray. Time to do a full sercice on it now, timing belt kit, belts, hoses, all fluids and check out the front end ball joints tie rods bshings ect.:lookout:
 
Nice rig great base to build on. Inside looks just like mine does down to worn drivers seat. I have the OME 881 890 lift from Toytec and I love it, performs great off road and 4 wheeling and rides great on the street. Had it on the truck for over 3 years and the rear still is not sagging and the shocks have held up well. Oh gray plate frame is normal no matter what color the exterior is or SR5 or Limited models, mine is a 97 SR5 White and the plate frame is gray. Time to do a full sercice on it now, timing belt kit, belts, hoses, all fluids and check out the front end ball joints tie rods bshings ect.:lookout:

Thanks. Glad to hear people like the OME stuff over the long haul. I just pulled the trigger on the lift kit. Hopefully, it'll be here soon so I can work on it over the long holiday weekend.

Anyone got any recommended places to buy a complete TB/WP kit that uses quality parts? I'm still feeling my way around all of the sites and don't know which ones are the best.
 
Got some work in tonight. Swapped my front seat bottoms between driver and passenger sides. Feels much better. Who knows, maybe they'll last another 225k miles like this. [emoji23] Cleaned the carpets in all of those hard to reach spots while the seats were out.

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Threw in the floor mats I bought off eBay. The grays aren't a perfect match, but close enough. Lastly, I mocked up the front mud flaps, but am going to wait to install them until I get the lift on.
 
Here's the drivers seat after the swap. Looks and feels like new.

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On another note, I found a '99+ center console in a salvage yard down in Texas. Shipping was going to be outrageous...so I have my brother in law bringing it with him when he drives up for Thanksgiving next week. It was only $35 and hopefully, it'll have all of the parts with it.
 
Stopped off at the salvage yard for a couple parts for the center console swap. I’ve read they aren’t necessary, but do make things a little more plug and play. 10 bucks well spent, IMO.

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Last night’s work on the lift went well. Got the fronts done in 2 hours. Today was a different story. What a horrible design for the rear shock upper mounting points!!! I got the right side done, but ended up taking the truck to get aligned and had them replace the drivers side.
 
It's not a huge lift, but I'm pretty happy with it for my daily driver. I noticed a big improvement in the steering since it's not riding on those sad, worn out rear springs. I also installed the front mudflaps.

Before Lift
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After Lift
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Got the 99+ center console swapped over. A nice, simple mod with huge benefits, IMO.

Some pics showing the differences in the parts...
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Got the switches moved over to the dash. Just need to swap a couple wires and remove the "UP" and "DOWN" lettering with a magic eraser.
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Looks like it belongs...
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Another nice benefit...the upper tray under the armrest.
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