the great him
Elite Member
so i found a new upgrade for those pesky black dealer keys that keep braking... idk if any of you have been having this issue, but i have gone through like 5 of these things sense i bought the truck, and two just this year... now they arent the most expesive key at like $11.33 -$10.20 my cost but still no sense i spending $20 a year on keys for your vehicle. -i know i know, i could just do what everyone else does and just use the metal key.... I DONT WANT TO lol its that simple, its easy for me to pick out my key in my pocket without having to look at it, i can just feel it. and the plastic cover has the nice embossed toyota logo, and it doesnt rattle or jingle as much as a solid metal key would. so the other day i was thinking "boy i wish my 4runner key was as nice as my wifes yaris keys..." i mean that thing is softer, bendable but yet ridged enough to hold a key ring easily.


anyhow off to the dealer today to get another new key, i have my key code of my vin number so they can look it up and just cut me a new key from that and im good to go. i get the new key and again look at it and think "wonder how long this one will ask?" and go out to my truck and just as im sitting there i see my wifes spare keys in my console and i get an idea... i grab her key and put them side by side, they look the same so i put her key in the ignition. it fits! it slides in perfectly, so i pull it out and inspect them even closer, they are the same thickness, the groves are in the same place and have the same gap, the width of the key is the same, the length of the key is the same... the only thing that i can see to be different is the head. so i grab her key and head back inside.
back at the counter the guy who just made my key has this look of oh no... he asks if there is something wrong with the key. i say no but i want to see if we can do something. i proceed to show him the two keys, and explain my issues with the standard 4runner key. then i ask if i can have my 4runner key pattern cut into a blank yaris key with the better nicer fob/handle/backing. he and a couple other guys look at it and figure "i dont see why not" and so he double checks what i want and confirm with me everything and goes back and 2 min later i have a new upgraded/dated key. i pay for this one as well list price of $14.97 -$13.47 my cost and im out the door. it works perfectly and looks great.
bottom line here is i have a new key that has a newer better handle on it that wont brake like all my others have.
part numbers for the blank keys are as fallows;
stock 97 4runner bank key: 90999-00185 (left)
stock 07 yaris blank key:90999-00199 (right)

i dont know why toyota has not superseded to this new key as again the key shaft is identical in every way. so if you like me have been having issues with your keys breaking you might want to ask for the 00199 key over the 00185 next time you go get a key


anyhow off to the dealer today to get another new key, i have my key code of my vin number so they can look it up and just cut me a new key from that and im good to go. i get the new key and again look at it and think "wonder how long this one will ask?" and go out to my truck and just as im sitting there i see my wifes spare keys in my console and i get an idea... i grab her key and put them side by side, they look the same so i put her key in the ignition. it fits! it slides in perfectly, so i pull it out and inspect them even closer, they are the same thickness, the groves are in the same place and have the same gap, the width of the key is the same, the length of the key is the same... the only thing that i can see to be different is the head. so i grab her key and head back inside.
back at the counter the guy who just made my key has this look of oh no... he asks if there is something wrong with the key. i say no but i want to see if we can do something. i proceed to show him the two keys, and explain my issues with the standard 4runner key. then i ask if i can have my 4runner key pattern cut into a blank yaris key with the better nicer fob/handle/backing. he and a couple other guys look at it and figure "i dont see why not" and so he double checks what i want and confirm with me everything and goes back and 2 min later i have a new upgraded/dated key. i pay for this one as well list price of $14.97 -$13.47 my cost and im out the door. it works perfectly and looks great.
bottom line here is i have a new key that has a newer better handle on it that wont brake like all my others have.
part numbers for the blank keys are as fallows;
stock 97 4runner bank key: 90999-00185 (left)
stock 07 yaris blank key:90999-00199 (right)

i dont know why toyota has not superseded to this new key as again the key shaft is identical in every way. so if you like me have been having issues with your keys breaking you might want to ask for the 00199 key over the 00185 next time you go get a key