Lets group E-mail Toyota demanding V8

[harper7]

I don't think putting the 4.6 and a 6-speed tranny in the 4Runner would increase the mileage over the V6 and 5-speed. In fact, I expect it would decrease. The V6 is already a pretty sophisticated engine, and a different transmission would provide only marginal improvement.

The fact that the 4.6L V8/6 speed auto might not increase gas mileage is true but how much would it decrease it by.About 1 mpg difference real world as a good friend I work with HAS the 4.6L/6sp in his 2010 Tundra 4X4. He gets better gas mileage then me(he gets 18.5 to my 17.5 avg.) although he has stock tires and I have AT tires and drive aggressively.

The 4.6L is a dual VVT-i aluminum block/aluminum heads engine just like the 4.0l V6 and it's rated a ULEV II green engine.Basically the same engine with 2 extra cylinders.But it has 310HP and more importantly 327ft/lbs of torque at 3400 rpm.

 

[Barefoot]

The '10 4X4 V6 is rated at 17/22 MPG

The '10 GX 460 4WD is rated at 15/20 MPG

A 4.6 in a 5th gen ought to do a little better than 15/20 considering it would be hundreds of pounds lighter and a couple inches shorter than the GX

 

[M1911]

The fact that the 4.6L V8/6 speed auto might not increase gas mileage is true but how much would it decrease it by.About 1 mpg difference real world as a good friend I work with HAS the 4.6L/6sp in his 2010 Tundra 4X4. He gets better gas mileage then me(he gets 18.5 to my 17.5 avg.) although he has stock tires and I have AT tires and drive aggressively.

IIRC, the difference between the 4th gen V6 and V8 was also in the area of 1-2 mpg. So, yes, I agree on that.

But I don't think Toyota is going to bring us the V8 in the 4Runner.

 

[bluebullet]

Well I emailed them again suggesting that a manual transmission would give the driver another control point with runaway engines. I know the 4Runners are not part of the recall. I don't think they really listen much to what goes on here. Now they have a much larger problem on their hands with accelerator pedals. It is interesting to see how Toyota Corp is dealing with the PR nightmare they in part have created. They could have nipped this one in the bud by being proactive last fall. Instead they thought they could sneak by unnoticed. If they had simply been honest and forthright with customers and dealers and govt oversight agencies, they could have gained even more loyalty.

Toyota missed a chance to gain even more market share.

 

[adoihcj]

Well I emailed them again suggesting that a manual transmission would give the driver another control point with runaway engines. I know the 4Runners are not part of the recall. I don't think they really listen much to what goes on here. Now they have a much larger problem on their hands with accelerator pedals. It is interesting to see how Toyota Corp is dealing with the PR nightmare they in part have created. They could have nipped this one in the bud by being proactive last fall. Instead they thought they could sneak by unnoticed. If they had simply been honest and forthright with customers and dealers and govt oversight agencies, they could have gained even more loyalty.

Toyota missed a chance to gain even more market share.

My take on the recall is that it's an extremely rare and coincidental thing which occurred. That is, the original problem seemed to be floormats trapping the pedal. The original fix was to tell customers not to use floormats and bring the vehicle in for a replacement pedal. Then all of a sudden, reports were coming in that vehicles had stuck accelerator's even when the floor mats were removed. That's when Toyota realized there may be a problem with the pedal itself.

Toyota's recall is completely voluntary. They did not have to do this. To me, this proves Toyota's committment to its customers and reputation. Do you think GM or Ford would voluntarily recall millions of vechiles if there was a problem? They've covered up things in the past, but because it happened to the best car manufacturer in the world, it's front page news. I'd take a Toyota with a stuck accelerator over the POS Ford Explorer I just traded in.

Now back to our reguarly scheduled discussion on demanding a V8 ...

 

[charlier180]

Toyota's recall is completely voluntary. They did not have to do this. To me, this proves Toyota's committment to its customers and reputation. Do you think GM or Ford would voluntarily recall millions of vechiles if there was a problem? They've covered up things in the past, but because it happened to the best car manufacturer in the world, it's front page news. I'd take a Toyota with a stuck accelerator over the POS Ford Explorer I just traded in.

FWIW, the recall was not voluntary, it was REQUIRED by law.

Numerous reports have been made about this like the following.....

Lawmakers Investigating Toyota Recall Delay - WSJ.com

It would appear that Toyota will be spending a LOT of money on the recall, legal fees and lawsuits that are sure to come about from people injured or killed by this problem.

Sadly, that means less money for Toyota to spend on a V8 for the 5th Gen 4Runner.

 

[M1911]

Toyota's recall is completely voluntary. They did not have to do this.

No, that is not my understanding. Nor was the sales halt voluntary. It was required by NHTSA, and came after a week of negotiation with Toyota.

 

[mike521]

The '10 4X4 V6 is rated at 17/22 MPG

The '10 GX 460 4WD is rated at 15/20 MPG

A 4.6 in a 5th gen ought to do a little better than 15/20 considering it would be hundreds of pounds lighter and a couple inches shorter than the GX

The weight of '10 GX 460 4WD is 200kg more than '10 4Runner V6

If they have same weight, the MPG may be the same.

 

[T4Fun]

what is email address?

can someone put up email address that all you folks are complaining to. i have a few things to tell them myself. I dont know if they listen to emails, but i found some contact info for folks that would be willing to call japan. ask for the chief engineer of the 4runner, Akio Nishimura

http://www2.toyota.co.jp/en/about_toyota/overview/

 

[JBgotM]

can someone put up email address that all you folks are complaining to. i have a few things to tell them myself. I dont know if they listen to emails, but i found some contact info for folks that would be willing to call japan. ask for the chief engineer of the 4runner, Akio Nishimura

TOYOTA: Company > Company Profile > Overview

Unfortunately, marketing makes alot of calls as to what is offered. The engineers are the ones who design it and make it work.

 

[harper7]

can someone put up email address that all you folks are complaining to. i have a few things to tell them myself. I dont know if they listen to emails, but i found some contact info for folks that would be willing to call japan. ask for the chief engineer of the 4runner, Akio Nishimura

TOYOTA: Company > Company Profile > Overview

The e-mail link and instructions are on the very first post.Do e-mail them with your complaints as they will go to marketing. The chief engineer's hands are tied by what marketing/finance depts give him to work with.

Here it is the link again though....
Email Toyota

 

[T4Fun]

The e-mail link and instructions are on the very first post.Do e-mail them with your complaints as they will go to marketing. The chief engineer's hands are tied by what marketing/finance depts give him to work with.

Here it is the link again though....
Email Toyota

biggest gripe i have is the antenna, gas cap and no running board skirt - all i m asking is to put an in glass antenna, have lever on gas cap inside (hell even my 2000 corolla has that) and make official rocker panel/running board like on older 4R (3rd gen). whats that cost? 500-600 bucks tops!

 

[M1911]

have lever on gas cap inside (hell even my 2000 corolla has that)

My 1980 Corolla had that.

 

[giguchan]

I found this thread because i was looking for something to pull my toys.. I have been looking for a Sequioa for a while now.. I'll most likely get something this winter and then do it up for the summer of bass boat, popup camper, and jetski pulling) not at the same time...Naturally. I also have a lot of gear too.. My 3rd gen is old skool , but i still i still love it. I just wished it had more room.. Like the Sequioa i want.

 

[rjsd]

Toyota responds to the email campaign with: Buy a GX....

If the 4r was offered with a V8 the cost would be north of forty coming off the lot. That would be a delta of 10K or less from the GX. Would the 4r with a V8 have an impact on GX or sequoia sales? I wouldn't expect the V8 it doesn't make sense for Toyota to make one available.
Why not just buy the GX it has all you want and more and it is a high end Toyota I like them more than my 4r but not when the price is considered.
It’s more a question of marketing for Toyota. If they did not already offer three other SUVs with V8s I might think they would offer one in the 4r. Maybe a few years down the road but I think a diesel is more likely.

Good luck I hope I am wrong on the V8.

 

[grizz521]

I think the reason for dumping the V8 was lack of sales. When I started looking at 4 runners in 08, the V8 were the only ones left on the lots. Even now, the (used) V8 4 Runners are all over the place.

 

[captainnemojr]

Well if we can't get enough support for a V8...maybe we can all petition TRD to make a Supercharger instead.

 

[Mtn.Rush]

Well if we can't get enough support for a V8...maybe we can all petition TRD to make a Supercharger instead.

I'm in.

 

[Quentin]

Supposdly the supercharger will be out in the fall. This is according to the lead engineer that was at the FJ meet.

 

[mgrande]

yup SC it, gas mileage will stay the same or even go up slightly, assuming you drive the same.