Lockers or limited slip
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Footofgod
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1st and 2nd gens never came with lockers or LSD.
What kind of wheeling are you doing? In most cases, a Detroit or Yukon Grizzly locker in the rear is all you need. You really don't want to lock the IFS or you could be breaking CV axles left and right. A LSD up front like the Detroit Tru-Trac has proven helpful for some.
I use it for everyday driving. Have ARB's in my Jeep and love them. But the 4runner will be used to drive. Not any crawling. Want selectable like ARB for rear and poss front. Would be used in snow and mud only so not a lot of lock to lock turning going on under power. Front has selectable hubs now. Has anybody had any luck with ARB's in the rear or any other limit slip. Do not want something that will be noisy when drove on road everyday.
Footofgod
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Maybe a dumb question, but why spend 1000's of dollars or selectable lockers if not being used to go offroad? What a waste dude (no offense). Good tires and standard 4x4 is all you need for snow and mud is a bad idea in almost any situation.
Think about this. 1 foot of mud, four wheels on SUV. only two pulling at anyone time. this means these two tires are having to pull or push the two non powered tires through everything the pulling tires are through. This accounts to a lot of extra static friction due to the mud or snow. Having a Jeep with ARB's and experience with driving it in both in locked and non locked situation. Lockers or limited slips are a extremely tool when used correctly. Std 4 wheeler without lockers or limited slip only has one rear and one frt wheel plulling at any given time.
Still run a detroit in my rear and I never heard it until I stepped up to 37s and and 5.29s. Ran a LSD (tru-trac) with 4.88s in the front of my IFS for about a year until I went SAS and it was definitely major improvement. With the right braking technique you can get both fronts to lock up.. I would never go full lock in a Toyota IFS... IMHO.
Still have my built LSD Toyota IFS diff for sale if your interested.
Still have my built LSD Toyota IFS diff for sale if your interested.
nevada
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I think what he was getting at, was why do you want to spend the money to lock up a street rig?
92-SR5
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I ran an Aussie locked front IFS for about a year and a half. I didn't have an issue with it. You just have to know it's limitations. Kinda like a rubber band effect, it will stretch a bit but you cant go too far otherwise it will break something (most likely a CV). In my opinion, Detroit lockers are the way to go. :bigok: If you are looking for a lunch-box style, I'd recommend Aussie lockers, much better than lock-rites (IMO). Plus they are also half the price of a Detroit.
Why lock up a street rig? Well even if its driven on the street most of the time we still have bad weather in snow plus it seems some mud not rocks where it is driven. Nothing like driving to your cabin and encountering a sandy mud hole with stand water thats 50 foot long. Better safe than never. Trying to pull two none driven tires through this with two driven tires seems kinda dumb. People that have enough common sense with lockers like ARB in rear only use them when needed. Also this is why I inquired about a limited slip in front and rear. I like the idea of poss a Truetrac in front with ARB in back, but still thinking of a limited slip idea in rear. Truetrac in rear might be ok to.
KidVermicious
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Locker + pavement + snow = no bueno. And unless you regularly get up to your axles in the gumbo, a locker isn't going to do you much good in the mud either. Decent tires and proper technique will get you much farther than locking the diff and mashing the throttle, and if your trail to the cabin is that bad then you oughta have a winch anyway.
You also have a misunderstanding of how 4wd works. It's a misconception that only one wheel on each axle is being driven at a time - that only happens when one wheel completely loses traction, and that only happens because you've been brought to a halt by a) axle deep gumbo or b) bad driving technique.
Lock it up if you want, but from your description of how you use the truck I think you don't need to.
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He doesn't seem to be listening to anyone's advice here so he might as well.
Don't forget your compressor if/when you get the arb's.
thatoneguy
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"Thinking ARBs and what front selectable lockers people are running in their IFS" Hahahaha
If I recall, ARB does make a 7.5" front selectable. Why anybody would buy that I haven't a clue.
But you seem reaaaally concerned about the mud-boggin you'll be doing. Better just drop a couple thousand dollars on 2 ARB air lockers, and a compressor..
If I recall, ARB does make a 7.5" front selectable. Why anybody would buy that I haven't a clue.
But you seem reaaaally concerned about the mud-boggin you'll be doing. Better just drop a couple thousand dollars on 2 ARB air lockers, and a compressor..
nevada
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meh, its not that bad. I did it for years, and I never once had an issue.
in fact, when its VERY slick IE ice...an open diff will kick you sideways just the same. since NEITHER rear has traction, they both spin.
KidVermicious
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I've got a Spartan in the rear and drive all winter. But I'm not under the impression that it's helping me at all, unless by "helping" you mean "make it easier to spin donuts in the grocery store parking lot".
It definitely takes a little extra care to ensure the rear doesn't kick out too far when I'm sliding through the neighborhood at two in the morning pretending the parked cars are a drift course.
It definitely takes a little extra care to ensure the rear doesn't kick out too far when I'm sliding through the neighborhood at two in the morning pretending the parked cars are a drift course.
crazy gringo
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look at his second post (he has a JEEP with lockers ) nuf said will never listen
Footofgod
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Plus he'll be able to install the cool ARB sticker!!! That will give him TONS more traction in foot deep mud.
