Major repair coming up, Am I ready?

[shahsmerdis]

So here is what I am doing next weekend. Gotta get a few last min items to buy, but I just want to make sure I am ready.

The agenda is the following

1. full 5th gen caliper replacement. pads, shims, rotors etc /w brake fluid flush
2. All the rear wheel studs to be replaced
3. Parking brake inspected, and replaced as necessary, cable adjustment
4. Timing belt and water pump
5. tune up
6. power steering flush
7. shock inspection, and suspension check

Brake
for 5th gen upgrade I have the following
Rear:
5th gen rear calipers centric 142 series
OEM 4th gen brake pads with new shims
OEM 4th gen rotors

Needed:
2 front calipers, OEM 5th gen pads /w shims, OEM 5th gen rotors, and brake fluid
Wheels studs.

Questions: Any wheel stud will do? OEM's are a bit expensive(4-5$), dorman was about 1 dollar each on rock auto, what do you guys think?

Timing belt
13568-09070 Timing Belt
00295-00103 FIPG
90916-02585 Drive Belt
16100-09201 Water Pump
00272-SLLC2 Coolant (2 Gallons)
90916-03100 Thermostat
16346-50010 Thermostat Gasket
Trottle body cleaning
MAF mass air flow sensor cleaning (needed?)

Questions: Do I need replace anything else while I am there? Or do them as needed by mechanics judgement? Or just replace them? I have no problem to spend the money. If so what do you recommend, I googled and got overwhelmed, so sorry for repeat question

Shocks:
I know XREAS isn't a popular to keep, but my dad wants it, his car, so I plan to have the mechanic inspect them, and if they need replacing they will be replaced. If the system is leaking though Im going to strongly advise he does not replace the whole system. If so which replacement system do you guys recommend that is closest to stock suspension no lift do you recommend? My search has lead me to KYB as the safest choice. Do I need springs? or should I just put in OEM non xreas shocks?

Is there anything else that should be replaced while he has the shocks open?


Tune up:
I have air filter and cabin airfilter that I will swap next weekend. I plan to have him do the spark plugs as well, in addition swap the power steering fluid. All other fluids have already been changed 2 years ago. Edit: + oil change.

Thanks, While I know alot of these topics have been covered in other threads, it would greatly help me if we can talk about them here again. I've tried to do my research myself, but with all these topics my brain fry's up each time. I think I'm 90% there.
Labor:
Luckily I found a family friend who is willing to help me out with the labor, and in the past he has been overly fair with his rates.

If I have time
Rust clean up
Full detail (Performed by me)


Greatly appreciate your time 4runner crew

 

[aeb28]

I think there are a couple pulleys along with the timing belt you could stand to replace, then again if you are buying the belt/water pump kit, I think most of the kits already have them.

I just replaced some studs with some $1.99 specials. I haven't had any problems, then again I haven't tried over-torquing them over time to see how they hold up. Worst case scenario replace them again in a couple years if they give out, its like a 15 minute job. I don't know how much better OEM are for a few more dollars.

I would not really be concerned with the MAF unless you were experiencing some noticable issue. Not unless you got an aftermarket filter and just drenched it with filter oil. That is just me, I am sure someone with more knowledge and experience than I could give you a better answer.

You could spend all day replacing things preemptively. It sounds to me like you have a pretty solid list as it stands

 

[Marfy]

I feel like wheel studs are a pretty important item to save a few bucks on...

 

[Ralph Blake]

Just what is the mileage on your 4runner?

 

[ChaosStarter]

Might want to pick up an extra gallon of coolant to be safe.

 

[shahsmerdis]

Might want to pick up an extra gallon of coolant to be safe.

I think he is next to a toyota dealership so ill stop by if i need to pick up more... Good idea though!

93k miles! Oh boy looks like I'm leaking something as well in the other thread.

this car doesn't like me. the more I look the more I need to replace

 

[shahsmerdis]

I feel like wheel studs are a pretty important item to save a few bucks on...

You are right, OEM it is.

whats 50-60 dollars for the item that is holding your wheels.

Thanks!

 

[blackoutt]

I feel like wheel studs are a pretty important item to save a few bucks on...

If you've ever replaced a wheel bearing anywhere other than the dealer the hub is most likely dorman and therefore dorman studs. You should be fine saving a few bucks here, they're reputable enough for most people.

As far as other parts needed, you might want to replace the idler pullers on timing belt since you're in there.

 

[shahsmerdis]

If you've ever replaced a wheel bearing anywhere other than the dealer the hub is most likely dorman and therefore dorman studs. You should be fine saving a few bucks here, they're reputable enough for most people.

As far as other parts needed, you might want to replace the idler pullers on timing belt since you're in there.

Yeah, that is the brand I was looking at. It looks pretty much the same!

Yeah, this car is not going to see service on the engine for the next 5 years unless I bring it somewhere, so probably best to do it now. (Parents are very bad with maintenance)

Thanks!

 

[fogcitysurfer]

Hate to make your list longer! But have the radiator inspected for any signs of leakage. Its an easy swap while they are doing the timing belt and water pump. When I did mine there was a little bit of white crusty coolant along a seal so I just had them replace the whole thing. Good luck!

 

[shahsmerdis]

Hate to make your list longer! But have the radiator inspected for any signs of leakage. Its an easy swap while they are doing the timing belt and water pump. When I did mine there was a little bit of white crusty coolant along a seal so I just had them replace the whole thing. Good luck!

Thats a good point! I forgot about that. Which radiator did you buy? Aftermarket? How much did that cost you?

Shall I have them replace the hoses and all that stuff too?

besides idler pullers, Shall I swap Tensioner, and other things of that nature?

I hear Tensioner should be replaced for second timing belt? Is there a year limit on that too?

:Edit: Woah didnt realize the Idler is ~70 dollar part. yikes.

 

[fogcitysurfer]

I don't remember the exact prices but it wasn't much extra. I paid 1200 total for timing belt, water pump, belts, hoses, radiator. All parts were OEM from what I remember.

 

[shahsmerdis]

I don't remember the exact prices but it wasn't much extra. I paid 1200 total for timing belt, water pump, belts, hoses, radiator. All parts were OEM from what I remember.

I hope its not leaking then XD =P. he is next to a toyota dealership, so if he needs a new one, then we will order it. Not going to swap it until we need too... Sounds like a expensive item... So far I had 2-3 leaks in the car various different parts, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is.... All of which seem common here. anyway hopefully it isn't.


Anyone know of a good link with an 'extended' list timing belt replacement parts?

 

[nevada]

Thats a good point! I forgot about that. Which radiator did you buy? Aftermarket? How much did that cost you?

Shall I have them replace the hoses and all that stuff too?

besides idler pullers, Shall I swap Tensioner, and other things of that nature?

I hear Tensioner should be replaced for second timing belt? Is there a year limit on that too?

:Edit: Woah didnt realize the Idler is ~70 dollar part. yikes.

for the timing belt, just buy a kit. it will come with everything, including a tensioner. I am of the opinion it should be replaced with every belt. cheap insurance and all that...

 

[shahsmerdis]

for the timing belt, just buy a kit. it will come with everything, including a tensioner. I am of the opinion it should be replaced with every belt. cheap insurance and all that...

Are kits made of OEM replacement parts? Like same assembly line, just packaged without toyota label?

Okay. ill add tensioner to my list of parts.

Thanks.

 

[shahsmerdis]

Edit, should the hoses be swapped too? Or replace them as needed?

Are these replacement parts function of time or just a function of miles?

Do you recommend to have spare bolts on hand for my mechanic or not needed?

Thanks

 

[blind squirrel]

The timing belt kit I installed this last weekend on my Runner was from Rockauto and included pretty much everything you need. Timing belt, water pump, pulleys, tensioner, and gaskets. I bought the serp belt from them too, see order below. I bought from the dealer the thermostat, thermostat gasket ($5...what a rip), and 2 gallons of coolant. You will need rtv for the water pump/ thermostat connection.

Some people say the pulleys and tensioner will last 200k. Okay... what if they don't? You saved 10 bucks now to take the engine apart again when/if they go bad before the next belt.

 

[blind squirrel]

Edit, should the hoses be swapped too? Or replace them as needed?

Are these replacement parts function of time or just a function of miles?

Do you recommend to have spare bolts on hand for my mechanic or not needed?

Thanks

I just visually inspected my hoses and they seemed fine, so I did not change mine. If they need to be replaced later, it's not a big deal.

I don't see a reason for you to have spare bolts on hand.

 

[shahsmerdis]

I just visually inspected my hoses and they seemed fine, so I did not change mine. If they need to be replaced later, it's not a big deal.

I don't see a reason for you to have spare bolts on hand.

Did you change your pully's etc? cam shaft bearing those type of things? Or should I have have him visually inspect. I'm not an expect and this is consuming my brain in over thinking .

90k miles, I feel like age should play a part.

someone shake my back to reality :sobbing::behindsofa:

my thought process is grab what ever I've posted already, then whatever he needs he gets. I can't stop thinking about it. By the looks of it I don't even know what the part number is of those anyway. so best leave it to him

 

[blind squirrel]

Step back from the ledge my friend. :jump:

My truck is a 2004 with 127,500k on it and my belt looked new, so did my pulleys. If your truck is younger, and obviously has less miles, I would be confident to say yours will look the same. Yes, the belts can stretch and you cannot verify a belt being good by looks...

I changed all the things I listed in my previous post. No cam seals or crank seals as mine looked good. If your mechanic friend has any experience he should know what needs replacing and what doesn't by looking when he/she gets in there. I understand you want to be prepared and have everything they will need, but I would play the odds of what commonly needs to be replaced.

There is an old saying I coined over the years... "If it ain't broke... don't fix it." :yo:

Speaking of that... Why are you replacing the wheel studs?