Mammoth Adventure Sept 16-18

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Mammoth Adventure Sept 16-18

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The off road Mammoth trip is a little different than some of the other off road trips we’ve done. We like to call it an off road stay-cation. The group will head to Mammoth and spend two nights there doing out and back trips. This three-day trial run heads out to explore old ghost mines, petroglyphs and geological formations. The mileage each day is mostly easy trails with the usual challenge section, and a little crawling, as not to be a repetitive trail run. The focus of this trip is a fun social run while being able to play in the dirt.

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Expectations of participants.

Our trail runs are planned around having fun, seeing sites, and traveling specific amounts of mileage per day / event. This means if you participate, you are aware of the mileages needing to be covered per day and that you are expected to cover them in a reasonable time frame. Our group is NOT a "fly as fast as you can" group, but at the same time we are not a crawler group. We enjoy off roading with all types of trucks/SUVs, therefore the routes and daily mileage requirements are selected with non-modified 4X4 vehicles in mind. By signing up, you understand we ask that when the trail conditions allow, you drive at a safe pace that can allow you to cover the terrain / distance as expected by the group.

Planned Trip Summary:

Day one will start in Carson City, NV and head down to Mammoth CA. Along the way we will stop at several ghost mines. This trip will offer some great views of the Sierra and Mono Lake. The final part of the day will include a fun forest run into Mammoth.

Day two will be an out and back near Mammoth to see some petroglyphs, geological formations and Mono Lake. After returning to Mammoth, the group will head to Devils Post Pile.

Day three is a half day of trails before the group packs up to head home.

Event cost break down

$120 - Covers Decals, Event Insurance, PayPal.
Optional items you can choose from upon registration are hotel rooms, boxed lunch and collector decals.
Boxed lunches include: sandwich, pasta salad or chips, cookie, drink. (Whole foods includes lunch includes fruit)

Day 1: September 16 (Friday)

This is the longest mileage day of the trip with two ghost mine stops and a stop at an abandoned ranch. Trails are mostly easy terrain, but it does include the only section of rocky trail for the trip. The route will take us east of Mono Lake and lead into Mammoth. The total mileage for the day is 239 miles of dirt and a few miles of pavement.

Meet Time – 7:30am
Address - Johnson Lane Store - 1392 Johnson Ln, Minden, NV 89423
Depart – 8:00am

Lunch will be at the old mine town of Pine Grove. After lunch we will head to Mono Lake for some photos and snack brake before the last section into Mammoth.

Restaurant for the night

Address - Angel's Restaurant - 3516 Main St, Bishop, CA 93514

Hotel Accommodations

Address - Quality Inn near Mammoth Mountain Ski Resort - 3537 Main St, Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546

Day 2: September 17 (Saturday)

This day includes a 145 mile loop that will bring us back to Mammoth Lakes. The stops for the day are hot springs, petroglyphs, a canyon for photos and an abandoned ranch. In the afternoon, we will make the short pavement trek to check out Devils Post Pile. For those who are still full of energy, you can enjoy one of the many short to medium hikes in the area which provide some great views of the Sierras.


Starting point for the day


Address - Quality Inn near Mammoth Mountain Ski Resort - 3537 Main St, Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546

Meet Time – 7:30am

Depart – 8:00am to hit the trails

The plan is to have lunch overlooking Mono Lake before heading back into Mammoth. Depending on time, we may have lunch sooner or later as trail time will dictate our speed.

Restaurant for the night

Address - TBD

Day 3: September 18 (Sunday)

Before everyone makes the trek home, we will be heading over to June Lake to experience one of the most scenic drive loops you can do on or off road. Here we will hit a short side trail to get a final group photo and see Parker Lake, which is one of those hidden gems of the Sierras. After this stop, participants can make their way home as they see fit.

The total mileage for all three days will be 489 miles of trails and around 35 miles of pavement. For those looking at a first time run, this is a good intro to our group and the family friendly events we like to host.

Required gear:
Hand held or 50 watt VHF Radio
1 full size spare
Plug Kit (if only carrying 1 spare tire)

Recommended Gear:
50 watt VHF Radio
GPS app or off road GPS Device
2 Spare Tires
Plug Kit
Tow straps
5 gallons of fuel

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Being new to all of this, have question regarding radios. I have a handheld midland CB with Wilson 5000 mag mount antenna. Not sure if my radio meets this 50 watt vhf radio requirement??? Would like to go on this trip but not sure if I would have to buy another radio. Thanks


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If you can get 151,XXX or 152.XXX frequencies you are fine.

The hand helds are only 5 watt and work about 1-2 miles with a 7 inch antenna.
 
If you can get 151,XXX or 152.XXX frequencies you are fine.



The hand helds are only 5 watt and work about 1-2 miles with a 7 inch antenna.



Thanks for getting back to me. I only know that i get channels 1-40. I dont know frequencies i get. I will google and do some learning.

I will get the necessary radio.

My current Wilson antenna is the 67".

Wife just needs to verify our schedule is free, pretty sure it is. If so we r in and i will register.


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If you can get 151,XXX or 152.XXX frequencies you are fine.

The hand helds are only 5 watt and work about 1-2 miles with a 7 inch antenna.

Would this be acceptable for this Mammoth trip?
BaoFeng BF-F8HP (UV-5R 3rd Gen) 8-Watt Dual Band Two-Way Radio (136-174MHz VHF & 400-520MHz UHF)

Its only 8 watt, but we shouldn't get too separated, right?

Am I correct in the following?
LOOKS LIKE I WOULD NEED TO GET A HAM LICENSE FOR THESE RADIOS??? This is not gonna happen in time for this Mammoth trip, bummer.
 
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Radio Basics

The frequencies in the 151-153 MHz range are in the VHF Business band. They are commonly referred to as "Race Radio" because used in off road races like Baja 1000. You can get hand helds or full size radios at up to about 110 watts. Sold by Rugged Radios and PCI, Google them for info.. The ham radios run on different bands, 144-148 MHz and others. A license is required, you take an exam. Not too hard, but you still need maybe 20 hours of study to pass. With that you get a call sign, Which you use to identify yourself. 146.46MHz is commonly used by off roaders. CB is totally different, with only 5 watts and poor range. Don't waste money on CB.

Have fun on your trip, you should add Laurel lakes to your list!
 
The frequencies in the 151-153 MHz range are in the VHF Business band. They are commonly referred to as "Race Radio" because used in off road races like Baja 1000. You can get hand helds or full size radios at up to about 110 watts. Sold by Rugged Radios and PCI, Google them for info.. The ham radios run on different bands, 144-148 MHz and others. A license is required, you take an exam. Not too hard, but you still need maybe 20 hours of study to pass. With that you get a call sign, Which you use to identify yourself. 146.46MHz is commonly used by off roaders. CB is totally different, with only 5 watts and poor range. Don't waste money on CB.

Have fun on your trip, you should add Laurel lakes to your list!

[MENTION=89257]TravelWest01[/MENTION]

Thank you very much for the detail.

So, do I understand this correctly???

1. If I buy a radio capable of communicating on the HAM frequencies then I need a License? (i.e. BaoFeng BF-F8HP (UV-5R 3rd Gen) 8-Watt Dual Band Two-Way Radio (136-174MHz VHF & 400-520MHz UHF))

2. But, if I buy one of those "Race Radios" from Rugged Radios I don't need a license because its not capable of communicating on the HAM frequencies?

3. OR, if I get the Boafeng mentioned above and ONLY operate in the 151-153 MHz range, no license?

This is so confusing to me even after attempting the Google research route.

Thanks again
 
Radios Made Easy

So, if you check the spec sheet for the hand held you mentioned it will say what frequencies it transmits on and what frequencies it Only receives on. As long as it says it transmits at the 150 MHz referenced above, you are good to go for your trip. If it also transmits in the 144-148MHz band then yes you were you need license to transmit on those frequencies. The race radio band is used without a license. Long term, the ham radios are the way to go, as they connect to a system of repeaters, including Mazourka Peak and Silver Peak. With those, your signal is amplified and you can communicate all over the Eastern Sierra. It is pretty cool to speak with someone 50-100 miles away!
 
So, if you check the spec sheet for the hand held you mentioned it will say what frequencies it transmits on and what frequencies it Only receives on. As long as it says it transmits at the 150 MHz referenced above, you are good to go for your trip. If it also transmits in the 144-148MHz band then yes you were you need license to transmit on those frequencies. The race radio band is used without a license. Long term, the ham radios are the way to go, as they connect to a system of repeaters, including Mazourka Peak and Silver Peak. With those, your signal is amplified and you can communicate all over the Eastern Sierra. It is pretty cool to speak with someone 50-100 miles away!



Awesome! Thank you very much for your help. So i will get this baofeng but only transmit on the race frequencies until i get my ham license, starting to study now. Once licensed i will start with this handheld in the ham frequencies.

Much appreciated!


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Reminder that today is the last day to register for group hotel rates. After today you will need to book your own room and hope the hotel honors group rate.

Final day to sign up is 9/13.
 
[MENTION=121758]m3dragon[/MENTION]
How many are registered now?
Any limit to how many can go, if i cannot clear work schedule until last minute?


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6 signed up as of now.

You can register till the 13th as I need time to get all the decals and other arrangements.
 
How'd the run go?
was a gorgeous weekend throughout the Sierras!
Maybe you guys even swung thru the Millpond Music Fest, great food and music at the base of the Alabamas- which happen to have some amazing trails ;)
We did have a very large Wildland fire that may or may not have had an affect on your route?
Post up some pics and stories
 
I would Also like to know how the run went as well as some pics. I bet it was a lot of fun. I'm so bummed I didn't go
 

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