Motor dreaming

[Myrunr2010]

With what seems like a never ending list of things always breaking on my 4runner, I got thinking today, if I were to replace my motor, what would it be? Would I swap in another 3.4, would I look for a diesel, are there other options?

I like to dream of a diesel, but I don't know what obstacles I would have to overcome. Curious to hear what other people would do!

 

[hang10]

Chevy LS1:rockon:

 

[dirteater4]

Upgraded 3.4 if it was a budget swap. Short block Chevy if I just had to have a V8. Duramax diesel if I wasn't buying.

 

[MN4runnerman]

There's 3 4.7l Toyota v8s for sale near me. So freakin tempting!

 

[Myrunr2010]

Are any of these actually feasible? Like, been done before, bolt up pretty easy?

 

[MyHigh]

I'm pretty sure a duramax would be a shoehorn fit if at all. However the others have been done with good results, me, personally would love a diesel (Toyota brand) but I've heard it cost somewhere in the range of 10,000 to convert.

 

[Myrunr2010]

I'm pretty sure a duramax would be a shoehorn fit if at all. However the others have been done with good results, me, personally would love a diesel (Toyota brand) but I've heard it cost somewhere in the range of 10,000 to convert.

Whoaaaaaaaaa!!!!! 10k?!? That's insane. There goes that dream, lol.

 

[MN4runnerman]

Whoaaaaaaaaa!!!!! 10k?!? That's insane. There goes that dream, lol.

[MENTION=59542]Singtoe[/MENTION] has a 4.7l Toyota v8 in his 4Runner I'd say it's pretty feasible. But I don't know if he has posted how much it cost him to do. I'm pretty sure in his thread he paid $2500 for the sequoia though so there's a start.

 

[Myrunr2010]

[MENTION=59542]Singtoe[/MENTION] has a 4.7l Toyota v8 in his 4Runner I'd say it's pretty feasible. But I don't know if he has posted how much it cost him to do. I'm pretty sure in his thread he paid $2500 for the sequoia though so there's a start.

What type of reliability do they have? I'm assuming they make significantly more HP than the 3.4? I've got a manual transmission, wonder how that would play into it.

 

[Beef Supreme]

My wife drives an 01', and I drive a 04'. We're going to be using the 04' as a trade-in for a new car, and so I'll be driving the 01' soon.

My choice would be the 4.0 1GR-FE with the dual VVTI that's in the 5th gen. Still a Toyota V6, but with a nice 80hp & 80 lb-ft of torque gain. If Toyota offered a USDM diesel motor, that would be my second choice.

 

[marshallnoise]

I have been doing lots of research just because I am tired of the automatic behind the 3.4. It is just so slow.

If you want to stick to automatic, then a 5.3 Gen III GM motor would be a great way to go. I believe you can just bolt up the yota T-case to the 4L60-E transmission.

Going manual, which is what I would want to do, presents a bunch of unknowns. I still think the 5.3 Chevy and an MA5 or AX15 would be the solution I would work towards. Novak makes an adapter for $319 that adapts the GM bell housing to the AX15 Jeep transmission. The AX15 (and MA5) is basically the R154 Aisin transmission. It gets confusing reading about all the options. I think that the yota t-case will bolt up to that too.

 

[marshallnoise]

My wife drives an 01', and I drive a 04'. We're going to be using the 04' as a trade-in for a new car, and so I'll be driving the 01' soon.

My choice would be the 4.0 1GR-FE with the dual VVTI that's in the 5th gen. Still a Toyota V6, but with a nice 80hp & 80 lb-ft of torque gain. If Toyota offered a USDM diesel motor, that would be my second choice.

The biggest problem with the 1GR-FE is that the sump area is wildly different and not very adaptable to the 3rd Gen platform. That's what I have read anyway. Plus, I don't want to be dicking around with VVTi.

 

[MN4runnerman]

What type of reliability do they have? I'm assuming they make significantly more HP than the 3.4? I've got a manual transmission, wonder how that would play into it.

I'm not an expert and don't know a whole bunch on them. But from what I've heard they match our reliability. For your manual tranny I wouldn't know I'm sure there are adapters just don't know who makes them. I suggest reading through Singtoes build thread. A lot of good info in there.

 

[Myrunr2010]

I have been doing lots of research just because I am tired of the automatic behind the 3.4. It is just so slow.

I drove a 2nd gen for a number of years. You don't know slow until you've driven the 3.slow. It makes the 3.4 feel awesome. :banana:

 

[csp]

Chevy LS1:rockon:

Make that an LS3 and you really have something.

The LSx engines are so much easier to physically fit in the engine bay of a 3rd gen vs. the Toyota V8s.

 

[Myrunr2010]

Make that an LS3 and you really have something.

The LSx engines are so much easier to physically fit in the engine bay of a 3rd gen vs. the Toyota V8s.

Perhaps a dumb question. But which is which?

 

[Beef Supreme]

The biggest problem with the 1GR-FE is that the sump area is wildly different and not very adaptable to the 3rd Gen platform. That's what I have read anyway. Plus, I don't want to be dicking around with VVTi.

I've not had any run-ins with the VVTI, but my 04' with 120k on it is running great. Good to know about the 2nd gen 1GR-FE.

Sounds like a SBC is the way to go.

 

[csp]

Perhaps a dumb question. But which is which?

Toyota on the left, Chevy on the right. The size in the context of easier to fit in the 3rd gen engine bay should have given it away.

 

[Myrunr2010]

Toyota on the left, Chevy on the right. The size in the context of easier to fit in the 3rd gen engine bay should have given it away.

Does it stand a fair chance of actually mating up?

 

[csp]

Zero to no chance, but I would be swapping the entire driveline anyhow. Meeting emissions is another challenge.

Personally I don't find it to be a problem, but YMMV.