Mountain 4Runner Vinyl Decal *Group Buy*

[rycatcher8]

Certainly didn't mean to post something here that hurts your business. I can't remember where this was posted. I am a member of several 4Runner groups on Facebook. If I can delete the previous link I posted I'm happy to do so. It's not right if someone is stealing your work.

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[5280 TRail-Runner]

So i read this posted and the company overlook graphics contacted me since i was the one that requested these designs since your price was over to mucH. They did not steal your work. They did not even know that you did this. There are large company and have many locations because they help military families with work by providing them equipment to them to do decal. Which you do not. How do i know this i just got my equipment in since wife is a stay at home mom while i get deployed she can do decal for them.

2ND > ebay , esty and amazon. Why don't you complain to them different company sale the same decals also. Your just showing them some hate because you do not have resources to do so. Complain to other companys that have your design.

I support company that support our troops and if do not believe me go visit them on TINKER AFB IN OKC.

So let me get this right, you requested the decal to be done by another company which you found here on this forum and then they took the design and is now selling it on their site but you say its not stolen artwork? Please explain how that is stealing someones artwork.

As for your claim about the the decals in question being sold on other sites, please provide links to the exact same decals. The only site that I have seen that have these decals on is overlook graphics. There are designs that are similar but not like the ones I posted on here specifically the mountain edition and Toyota racing development ones because I made those upon request so to say they were not stolen is a load of crap.

With that said, I support the men and women who serve as well as their families as I have numerous family members who have served and are still serving so thank you for you service and I applaud this company for doing what they do for military families however I don't see how this has anything to do with what we are talking about.

 

[NoOneBetter]

They did not steal your graphics.
1. I requested the artwork
2. They do not know nothing about your work.
3. I have friends that wanted same design for and they ask permission to sale it which was my mistake sorry.
4. Does not give the right to mention that they stole your design because where mistaken information thinking the design came from me.
5. Maybe you should talk to them.
6. Not all designs are the same,
7. I am looking for those website right now its been a while since i been shopping online.

Yea so it was your mistake in leading them to believe that it was your design to begin with. Its your responsibility to fix, and until then, anyone can say anything they want about who got what from where; no one else knows how they got it. The design belongs to [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] and you should definitely clear that up with Overlook Graphics.

 

[Dravur]

I also was not trying to imply that the original pricing was not out of line. I did not know that it was two separate people with the design. I was trying to reconcile the differences is all.

 

[Decals4runner]

This may be a dumb question, but I thought this was designed by someone on the forum and 5280 TRail-Runner had to get their permission to sell these to forum members.

How are they for sale at this website for 75% less than the price listed on this group buy thread?

Am I crazy for thinking this? Is that website technically allowed to be selling that design?

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My understanding that there a large mass vinyl distributor and they just started doing designs so there price is much lower then any one else. They use same vinyl has in shops.

 

[Decals4runner]

I was wondering same thing. $14.00 or $65?

I rather pay $14 then $65

 

[steveni70]

They did not steal your graphics.
1. I requested the artwork
2. They do not know nothing about your work.
3. I have friends that wanted same design for and they ask permission to sale it which was my mistake sorry.
4. Does not give the right to mention that they stole your design because where mistaken information thinking the design came from me.
5. Maybe you should talk to them.
6. Not all designs are the same,
7. I am looking for those website right now its been a while since i been shopping online.

This is very messed up. You took someone's intellectual property without permission and gave it to another company to profit from, while implying it was your original design. Did they pay you? I would say it's diabolical, but judging from your grammar...

Maybe a resident lawyer can write up a cease and desist for these companies.

 

[tigger]

I am very disappointed with the way this design has been handled. I placed the file out there for the use of the members, and allowed for them to be sold as a group buy for those who didn't have access to a graphics person.

I never authorized any company to sell these on their website and especially use my vehicle image for their personal gain.

I have sent an email to Overlook Graphics requesting them to remove the graphic and image from their website.

If you find other companies selling these, please let me know and I will contact them as well.

And as for the person who said the design wasn't copyrighted, guess again. The moment I posted the image, it was automatically copyrighted.

 

[Liquidmantis]

Name of "Decals4Runner" and all your broken English posts relate to this company, yet you aren't affiliated? Riiiight.

 

[5280 TRail-Runner]

After speaking to the company directing. They mention that any design that customer request, They have to alter or redesign it for legal purpose filing work which will fall under the copy right law. Now the design may be similiar to your design but it is not. Since the mountian and font a little different of size and shape plus they give option to customer to alter the text on file. I do not work the company or represent at all. I repeating there process of how they do it there. Which i write here is my words not theres.Which no one can either point the finger at me or them. Going forward technically its a similiar design
Thats all i have to say.

So you are telling me that all of the decals they are selling on their website is artwork they "own" of have "altered" upon customer request? If that is the case then why the hell are they using the image of [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION]s car and the preview images that I created and posted here on the forum? I also see decals that are sold on other sites that are also sold on their site but using the preview images from the sites they took the decals from? So those are altered too right? Also, since you were so adamant yesterday about these being sold elsewhere, where are the links to back up your claim? You don't have them because they don't exist. And for someone who admittedly claimed they took someones elsewhere artworks and claimed it as their own, its pretty pathetic you can't own up to your mistakes. And just because it was "altered" it does not make it yours or theirs. Its still stolen intellectual property.

Also, you are full of shit to say you have no affiliation to the company yet your name is "Decal4runner" and you have 10 posts all of which are in this thread alone backing this company up. You're fooling no one...

 

[orangepanzer]

So you are telling me that all of the decals they are selling on their website is artwork they "own" of have "altered" upon customer request? If that is the case then why the hell are they using the image of [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION]s car and the preview images that I created and posted here on the forum? I also see decals that are sold on other sites that are also sold on their site but using the preview images from the sites they took the decals from? So those are altered too right? Also, since you were so adamant yesterday about these being sold elsewhere, where are the links to back up your claim? You don't have them because they don't exist. And for someone who admittedly claimed they took someones elsewhere artworks and claimed it as their own, its pretty pathetic you can't own up to your mistaken. And just because it was "altered" it does not make it yours or theirs. Its still stolen intellectual property.

Also, you are full of shit to say you have no affiliation to the company yet your name is "Decal4runner" and you have 10 posts all of which are in this thread alone backing this company up. You're fooling no one...

Now that all this information has come to light I went ahead and ordered one. Yeah.... I gave them $18, but the intent is to have a record of those "subtle design differences to avoid copyright infringement."

For some reason I doubt there are any differences at all. And I agree: Sheisty practice to post a picture of a product that does not in fact portray what that product actually looks like.

Sheisty all around. I'm disappointed myself. I'll post pics if anyone is interested in seeing it for themselves.

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[TK-422]

WOW a lot of drama here. I had just ordered a custom Mountain logo from them after ordering a window flag logo last week. I had no idea.

The flag logo from them has been highly praised in another thread.

My guess is they had no intention of stealing IP, they just used what was given to them to promote to other likely buyers. Will wait to see what their reply is after a few days.

 

[SwayzeExpress]

Just have to say that customer service and promptness for this group buy was excellent for me - 5280 dealt with tons of indisicion on my part and drew up many options for me. I requested a few of the designs mentioned and they are for sure his... I wouldn't think of taking the pic to another place after that kind of attention to what I am looking for.

Bigger and smaller shops have different prices but right is right in my book

 

[MTN4RNR]

After reading this whole debacle, I think this sums it up pretty well...



Sorry that OP and [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] have to deal with this bull. Hopefully the company will understand their mistake and amend the situation. As for [MENTION=157995]Decals4runner[/MENTION], the fact that you are willing to back up something like this, and not your fellow 4Runner Forum Members, one who spent a lot of time creating the design, and the other who put together a group buy for the rest of us T4R'ers (after contacting the graphic owner and getting expressed permission), is very disappointing. You are no fellow member of mine. "Altered" or not, it's just plain wrong.

 

[Fountainhead]

I'd be interested in a window decal. Looking for something to place on the bottom of the windshield 2-3" high to cover the reflection of the sun from the trail hood scoop. I am sure no one else has that situation. It's that or stop waxing my vehicle.:blabla:

 

[5280 TRail-Runner]

First and foremost, thank you for coming on here to clear things up. I truly do appreciate it and I'm sure [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] does as well considering the original artwork was his to begin with.

Now, on to the decal. Being a graphic designer myself, at first glance I can see that they are different but not by much. I've put a graphic together with the 2 designs side by side so others can see the difference. The mountain edges are more sharp on the graphic overlook design and font is slightly different with slightly different placement but thats about it.

I think the issue at hand is you guys got the graphic from someone here who claimed it was his design and sold it to you guys so this design and the other two designs shouldn't be on your website at all to begin with even if it was altered. If in fact, it was his design to begin with, then I don't see a reason why you guys would need to alter the design in the first place because once he sold it to you guys, its your design so it doesn't make sense that you altered the actual mountain graphic when the customer option was for the font only. My only thought on this is that he did not provide you guys with a vector file for the graphic which is why the design had to be altered and in the process, you guys added the text option.

I put a lot hours into the decal after receiving the original file from Tigger so to see it being sold elsewhere for a fraction of the cost, was extremely frustrating so I just want the design off the site because lets be honest, I lost quite a few orders to your company. I can't speak for [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] on this I'm sure he doesn't like the fact that someone stole the graphic and sold it a company who is now selling it and is using a picture of his car for profit (which seems like you guys have updated since).

As for [MENTION=157995]Decals4runner[/MENTION] who stole the artwork and sold it to you guys. I hope that you guys get your money back from him or pursue some sort of legal action against him for this. To steal someones artwork and claim it as your own is one thing but then to admit that you did it on a public forum only then to say "no one can either point the finger at me or them" is pathetic on your part and is disrespectful to and bad publicity for Overlook Graphics.

Again, thank you for taking the time to come on here to clear things up. I am more than happy to get on the phone and discuss this matter further with you guys. I'm sure the same applies for [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] as well.

:cheers:

[MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] [MENTION=67197]4RunnERD[/MENTION]ecals and the rest of the group. A customer bought this forum to my attention yesterday. [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] I would like to apologize first for the mishap, confusion, and public attention that your company has receive. This design was bought to us by a customer requesting it at one of our shops then later claim that this was his design has sold it to us. Which we had redesign and gave customer more options. I would like to talk more about this via phone. Regarding [MENTION=67197]4RunnERD[/MENTION]ecals does not about of my company !!!!!Do not speak on our behave If you are the person that sold us the design. That is shameful to steal someone work. [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] I have posted a photo of our design look at it and the rest of the group can compare it. We strive on professionalism, customer feed back and honesty. hone:

 

[5280 TRail-Runner]

After numerous attempts to get in touch with the "owner" by both tigger and myself, nothing. Whoever it was, it looks they created an account just to defend the company. I highly doubt it was the actual owner of the company.
If it was the owner and was truly sincere about his apology then he would of reached out to tigger or myself and fix this as soon as he posted on this thread but nothing. No response via email, here or on their website.

[MENTION=120209] We strive on professionalism, customer feed back and honesty

Yet, you can't respond to our emails or reach out to us? For a veteran ran business, this is pretty shady business practice considering the fact that you KNOW the person who sold you guys the decal openly admitted to stealing the design and selling it. Again, either your pursue legal actions against the person who sold it to you or legal actions will be pursued against your company. I was hoping not to go this route but I have no choice. The choice is yours.

With that said, if anyone has any advice or can point me in the right direction in regards to legal actions I can take against this company, please message me. I believe there is enough proof and evidence on our behalf to make it worthwhile and from the looks of it, it looks like they stole designs from other sites as well.

Regards,
Q

 

[magert54]

[MENTION=170012]JupiterOnEarth[/MENTION], This is poor taste to advertise on another members post. I would recommend shifting your adverts else where unless you have prior approval from the OP.

 

[dylans]

Hi Everyone!

I am starting a group buy for this decal that an old forum member created. However, he no longer has a 4Runner but I did reach out to him and he said it was ok for me to use his design. Unfortunately, he lost the file he used for his decals but was able to provide a draft which I used to finalize for this group buy. I am not looking to make any money off this as this is more of service for members who want this decal but don't have access to a place locally that can get them done. So big thanks to [MENTION=120209]tigger[/MENTION] for putting in the work on the design. Below are the pictures of the decal on his 4Runner before he sold it.

[MENTION=140419]FlightMedic303[/MENTION]

[MENTION=56922]NoOneBetter[/MENTION]

Now, on to the details of the group buy.

The vinyl my guy uses is Oracal. The thickness is 2.5mil and should last you 5+ years.

Decal size: 65” x 5 ½”

Here is a sample of what it will look like. This is the red that is going on my 4Runner this weekend.

You will get a driver and passenger side decal. The decal are single color of your choice which are cut out of a pre-colored roll and are shipped with white or clear application tape which is removed after applying to the vehicle

Pricing
$75 - 1 to 15
$70 - 16 to 29
$65 - 30+
Plus Shipping

We can look into another price break if we can get to 50.

Color Options
I will update the colors later tonight when he sends me more pictures.


Green and blue star is what he has in stock. He can order other colors but there will be an additional $15 cost which would be split if others are interested in the color as well.


Additional costs
$5 for metallic silver, metallic gold, metallic copper
$10 for chrome
$20 for carbon fiber only available if we can get 10 people who are interested

Custom Text
I asked my guy if we could do custom text and he said no as it will be too time consuming on my end and on his end to do.

Install guide will be included as well.

I will leave the group buy open for 1-2 weeks depending on how much interest there is. Once closed, I will send out messages in regards to payment. Payments will be collected via PayPal only. Once all payments have been collected, then I will have my guy start working on them. Since these are being made to order, there will be no extras afterward except for a maybe a few sets in the basic colors unless there are more who are interested then we can look into doing another group buy. Expected delivery will be around 1-2 weeks after the group buy is closed given there are no issues with collecting payment. So don't be that guy and delay the process because you were late on payment.

All sales are final - NO REFUNDS

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask here or message me.

Cheers,
Q

Are these decals still available?

 

[blksubykid]

It’s been a year since the last response lol but it is a pretty sweet decal