Moving to Denver

The congestion and traffic is a b*tch here. If you are working out of DIA, look at Reunion, Brighton, South Aurora, or Parker. You'll want to stay on the East side of I-25. Driving from even Westminster to DIA can take anywhere from 30min to over an hour and a half depending on traffic.



Obligatory rant:
I moved to Denver +3 years ago... But I'm moving to Charleston, SC after this ski season. Colorado is a great state, but I cant stand the liberal transplants ruining this state. They're turning Denver into "Little LA".
 
Thanks for the input all. Suggestions are in-line with what others had recommended. We will be residents in the coming weeks. I will be traveling out of DIA 2-4 days per week most weeks per month. Don't mind a drive to/from DIA though as my most recent sales job was all car travel (~25k mi in 6 months)

Hey man, fairly certain we met at the Cove last year while I was on the east coast. I've been here in Colorado over 17 years, I guess long enough to have noticed the massive growth but still not be bitter about it since I moved here from somewhere else as well. The place I came from has exploded in popularity as well so I guess it's all relative. I live in Littleton but work near I25/470, the commute isn't great but the fun stuff I am close to makes it 100% worth it. My wife travels a lot for work through DIA, maybe twice a month on average and while it's probably 45-50 minutes using the tollway, she doesn't seem bothered by it. Shoot me a PM if you need anything or have questions!
 
The congestion and traffic is a b*tch here. If you are working out of DIA, look at Reunion, Brighton, South Aurora, or Parker. You'll want to stay on the East side of I-25. Driving from even Westminster to DIA can take anywhere from 30min to over an hour and a half depending on traffic.



Obligatory rant:
I moved to Denver +3 years ago... But I'm moving to Charleston, SC after this ski season. Colorado is a great state, but I cant stand the liberal transplants ruining this state. They're turning Denver into "Little LA".

They prefer the term "the San Francisco of the Rockies."

I wouldn't mind as much if they stayed in Denver and didn't try to change laws in the rest of the state.

Either way, driving to DIA sucks since the E470 is so damn expensive, moreso if you don't have the transponder. That and now they're adding the damn HOV lanes everywhere--you used to be able to dash through that city, now you spend hours in traffic or have to take the paid 470 bypass.

What really amuses me, tho, is how all the lib transplants buy some house in the windswept plain on the ass end of Denver with views of nothing, then brag to everyone that they live in Colorado and it's so progressive here.

I may move to WY at some point if the energy policy that has been impoverishing that state is reversed, idiots can't survive up there--there's no infrastructure of free stuff.
 
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What really amuses me, tho, is how all the lib transplants buy some house in the windswept plain on the ass end of Denver with views of nothing, then brag to everyone that they live in Colorado and it's so progressive here.

ahhh these are probably the same people who jam up I-70 with their front wheel drive and bald summmer tires to visit the mountains to ski about 5 days a season and try to get away with telling everyone they're from 'here' and b*tch about how expensive everything is.

.....its expensive because jerkoffs like them are crowding in and demanding a piece of the pie.

I swear to god if I have to listen to one more 'local, been here since last season bro' complain about how there's nothing to do around town I'm gonna find a way to kick his head up his own ass.
 
Obligatory rant:
I moved to Denver +3 years ago... But I'm moving to Charleston, SC after this ski season. Colorado is a great state, but I cant stand the liberal transplants ruining this state. They're turning Denver into "Little LA".

I found your rant kind of funny as a native Coloradan.

A transplant ranting about other transplants :)
 
Just a question for you Colorado natives; how has the Marijuana legislation affected the state by way of transplants from other states?
I live near Austin TX and while this city has always leaned blue, more and more Californians and east coasters are coming in and swaying other towns near Austin. If they legalize recreational use here in TX we'd def get even more influx
 
Just a question for you Colorado natives; how has the Marijuana legislation affected the state by way of transplants from other states?
I live near Austin TX and while this city has always leaned blue, more and more Californians and east coasters are coming in and swaying other towns near Austin. If they legalize recreational use here in TX we'd def get even more influx

I don't know how soon that will happen in Texas with our current Gov.

I'm from Houston, lived in Granby and Golden for a bit and now back in Houston. I lived there for two years, 08 and 09, and the Front Range is no different than any other major metroplex. I've heard its only getting MORE crowded. High Rockies are where its at!
 
Check out a place called Reunion in Commerce City. The place is growing and there is a wide variety of homes to look at.

DIA is about 30 minutes away.

You should also take a look at any neighborhood that is around 470. 470 is a big toll bypass loop that literally goes from south of Denver all the way up to north of Denver.

I am in the Firestone/Frederick area and I can get to DIA in 45 minutes easy using the toll road.
 
Hey man, fairly certain we met at the Cove last year while I was on the east coast. I've been here in Colorado over 17 years, I guess long enough to have noticed the massive growth but still not be bitter about it since I moved here from somewhere else as well. The place I came from has exploded in popularity as well so I guess it's all relative. I live in Littleton but work near I25/470, the commute isn't great but the fun stuff I am close to makes it 100% worth it. My wife travels a lot for work through DIA, maybe twice a month on average and while it's probably 45-50 minutes using the tollway, she doesn't seem bothered by it. Shoot me a PM if you need anything or have questions!



That's right! Your Alaska plates threw my memory off. Great to talk to you again. I appreciate the insight from you and everyone else.

Today is my last day on a site visit here. Leaning towards Parker.


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Just a question for you Colorado natives; how has the Marijuana legislation affected the state by way of transplants from other states?
I live near Austin TX and while this city has always leaned blue, more and more Californians and east coasters are coming in and swaying other towns near Austin. If they legalize recreational use here in TX we'd def get even more influx

I've lived here for over 10 (nonconsecutive) years and own property in CO and WY and have paid waaay to many taxes to the social engineers in Denver.

Everything went downhill after the Constitution Party decided to hijack the 2010 elections and gave the state over to that cop killer hiring retard Hickenlooper whose only plan to fix the economy was legalizing marijuana and pot tourism--which really makes zero sense because as more states legalize it recreationally that money will go away.

Where I have lived the longest (El Paso county) the transplants are mostly from Cali who complain it's too expensive to live there due to all the taxes, Texans who have tons of money, are sick of staring at a flat dusty hell, and don't know which property is worth money and which isn't--so they just throw away good money and drive prices up, and Right Coasters who heard from their aunt uncle cousin that Colorado is some new trendy place to live.

Most of the wasters who move here for the pot can't afford to live here and move back to mommy's basement after a season or two.

I moved here because I hunt in the mountains, have a cabin in WY I bought over 15 years ago (there are zero jobs in WY at this point), used to love off roading beore the trails became choked with overturned side by sides, and like to mountain bike. I really hate people and don't like how crowded shit has gotten.

It's not the same state it was a decade ago and it reminds me of the sprawl around the Bay Area.

OP, stay the **** out of Parker, that's our tornado alley.
 
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That's right! Your Alaska plates threw my memory off. Great to talk to you again. I appreciate the insight from you and everyone else.

Today is my last day on a site visit here. Leaning towards Parker.


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Not Alaska not sure where that came from! Parker is a decent place to live, close enough to the airport, safe and decent schools regardless of what the bitter crowd says. I view it that more 4Runner owners are a good thing as it's people that want to get outside, yeah it's more crowded than when I moved here, just means I need to get more creative with my camping to get away.
 
Just a question for you Colorado natives; how has the Marijuana legislation affected the state by way of transplants from other states?

I read somewhere that the homeless population grew 200% in the 6 months following legalization. Mostly 18-25yr olds. As far as "normal" people, I'd say it probably played a small part. A lot of people did move here trying to find jobs in the weed business though. Those people have left already.


I found your rant kind of funny as a native Coloradan.
A transplant ranting about other transplants :)

Everywhere I've moved, I've assimilated into the culture/ city. The liberal transplants don't want to do that. That *should* upset any rational person. Native or not. :shrug:
 
Everywhere I've moved, I've assimilated into the culture/ city. The liberal transplants don't want to do that. That *should* upset any rational person. Native or not. :shrug:

Well, the Californication of Colorado has several hallmarks...

-raising taxes... because schools! And people will pay through the nose for a 30 year old craphole in Colorado Springs to be in the increasingly overcrowded, coveted Academy District 20, then they vote to bring in kids from the crappy part of town and complain that the schools are now crappy and we need to raise taxes even more
-property value... houses are being built everywhere. Tornadoes, hail, flooding, no access to water? No problem, the California and Texas builders who threw your cookie cutter house together will be long gone when your stuff is floating around in your basement.
-guns... Colorado is a frontier state. We have OC, CCW, hunting, and people who just love gun culture. I don't really care that people freak out over the fact that everybody could be armed and look down upon the entire stat from their 1.5m loft in a gentrified part of Denver.
-it snows here... maybe not this year, but it snows here. Many of us can't just call in sick when it does, and have to get around in the white stuff unless the National Guard tells us to stay the hell home. A front wheel drive car on bald summer tires won't cut it, and while the proper thing to do would be to swerve into a ditch, they tend to run into other drivers and snarl up the highways.
-traffic... I used to be able to drive to DIA in less than an hour from Monument. On some days I-25 is now a traffic jam around Greenland and Larkspur and it can take 2 hours. Super fun if you have an international flight.
-stupid laws... Boulder banning smoking, but it's okay to smoke weed, Boulder banning sugary drinks, the "puff ban" that saves the environment by making it illegal to idle your car--only some dumbass from a state where it doesn't get cold would write that one, thankfully they don't enforce it in most places, magazine bans, UBCs
-hybrid parking, Tesla parking, compact car parking... once again mostly unenforced to the chagrin of the Left Coasters
-trail fees/increasing trail fees... it seems that the "environmentalist" liberals can't even go on a hike without turning the trail into a landfill or setting half the state on fire, so now they're closing trails or charging people to park at the trail head to pay for the cleanup
-sprawl and bedroom communities... when I first drove to WY over 15 years ago Fort Collins, Loveland, Windsor, and Timnath weren't one town of endless subdivisions, and only Californians think it's a great idea to buy a home in a town 1-2 hours away from your workplace--clearly they've never commuted in white-out conditions
-HOV lanes... no one gives a damn about your electric car, and we don't want to keep subsidizing it
-homeless... this wasn't even a problem until Hick took over the state, one of Denver's brilliant ideas is to export them to Colorado Springs

You just kind of slowly watch it happen. I came here because I liked the way things were here, not because I wanted to make it like the place I came from.
 
Just a question for you Colorado natives; how has the Marijuana legislation affected the state by way of transplants from other states?
I live near Austin TX and while this city has always leaned blue, more and more Californians and east coasters are coming in and swaying other towns near Austin. If they legalize recreational use here in TX we'd def get even more influx

It has affected us in a very negative way. A lot of folks moving here, their priority for moving here is effing POT. Sad priority.

I'm all for freedom/liberty, I voted for legalization. But the 20 year old spunion idiots moving here begging for money to buy weed is ridiculous and disgusting.

They brought a lot of crime and shenanigans with them. A LOT.

I'm glad CALI legalized it, a lot of them will go back home and suck off of the CALI teet they prefer instead of being here. A lot fo the morons who moved here to beg for pot $ will likely be moving back into mom and dads basement in CALI. Good riddance!

I've lived here my whole life and this state is awesome (Not so much as it once was though). It has changed so much- it's quite sad to see. The transplants bring the bullshit that they are fleeing. All of them complained of how high Cali taxes and property are, yet they bring their idiotic politics here and vote for our taxes to be raised for social programs and bullshit and raise the property values to astronomical levels.

And on top of that they complain about CO non-stop and how there are:

"No good farmers markets, where I lived in _ CA we had one everywhere every weekend- blah effing blah!".

"The vehicle licensing and registration fee is so high, I paid 1/3 of that at home, derka, derka, derka".

"Denver's okay, but there just isn't any good place to get a real 5 star meal I miss _ and _ when I lived in _ CA".

"You call this a night life, LA was so cool, the best clubs, the best bars, people are smarter and more progressive there and they know how to live the right way".

"Why do you only have one major highway going North/South and one major highway going East/West, the traffic is so bad, you Coloradans aren't very good at planning".

"Public Market Center in Seattle was the best, there's nothing like that here in CO".

"You can like, get, like real food in San Francisco, not this like fake, like wannabe, like organic, like poser food..."

:barf:

Quit ruining CO and- GO the F BACK HOME!:lasercannon:
 
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Just a question for you Colorado natives; how has the Marijuana legislation affected the state by way of transplants from other states?

well, I did hear that the junkies hanging around the grow operations and dispensaries down in denver got way out of control, there were a bunch of break-ins, more petty crime, etc.
nothing really changed in the smaller towns, especially ski towns. sure, now there's a storefront where you can go buy legally, but it seems like most new transplants don't seem to realize that weed was ALWAYS here, and pretty much the whole town smokes. fun facts: vail resorts has a strict policy of only drug testing if there is an 'incident' because they tried mandatory drug testing and couldn't come close to staffing mountain operations. wal-mart and home depot in Avon have the highest employee turnover rate in the country because of their national drug testing policy. legalization didnt really change anything. the newbies are still mostly idiots that get busted for smoking blatantly in public like retards, the ganjala is called that for a reason, and if you know what a safety meeting is, you've been here long enough to figure it all out.

unfortunately, legalization has made the tourist hordes more aware of the local reality, which has resulted in a few 'incidents' like this hilarious piece of journalism:

New York tourist rips Vail in hilarious letter because people were talking about pot | Westword

but on the other side of the coin, the people you are most likely to see in the pot shops are second homeowners in their 50s with their noses pressed against the glass like giddy schoolchildren because they can relive their wild party years for a couple nights a year in their ridiculously overpriced ski/in ski/out condo.


/separate rant:

for the mountains at least, legalization is not the problem. the problem is I-70, which is a major pipeline for the seriously dangerous drugs. quite a few kids I knew growing up have overdosed on heroin, several have died. Leadville has the second highest rate of AIDS in the country, primarily because of IV drug use. meth is a big problem, especially in grade school, which is terrifying. and the further you get away from the moneyed resort areas, the more tweakers and junkies you will find. poverty is a big problem in mining and ranching communities, and meth is overwhelmingly prevalent. we also have some of the highest suicide rates nationally as people drop everything and move to the mountains to live their dream life, only to realize later that their problems followed them here.

so to summarize, we have much bigger problems than legalizing a largely harmless plant that has far more benefits and is far less damaging than alcohol. in my opinion, people are flooding our state because of overly successful advertising campaigns and the so-called 'white gold rush.' winter sports are big business, and that money has almost completely destroyed my home. the park service has openly acknowledged that social media is the single most destructive tool that has caused overcrowding and vandalism at our state's most scenic destinations.

Hanging Lake faces challenges from too many visitors

every idiot you can imagine just has to take a selfie at hanging lake, or maroon bells, or the best hot springs I used to enjoy, or the cave systems, or the best ski runs, or formerly little known powder stashes, and openly invite their brainless twitter followers to partake, while geotagging the location. it all makes me want to puke.

you know, I do appreciate the fact that people love the mountains, and a lot of them want to save what remains before its overrun. and yes, I do understand that to save it we have to show it to the public so they can love it and want to protect it.
However, when 85% of our population is seasonal, we have a big problem. each new person I meet, the initial conversation goes almost exactly like this:
person: so where are you from?
me: from here.
them: well where are you from originally?
me: from here.
them: wow, really?? Ive been here [insert a timeline between two months and a year or two, usually] and you're the first person I've met who is actually from here.
me: yeah, hard to believe, but real people actually do live here long term. and even have kids once in a while. you just never see us because we have been completely overrun by people like YOU.
Natives don't ask people where they are from, unless they're hitting on them and trying to get a number. THEN we will pretend to be interested, because boobs. or whatever it is you're interested in.

and it really sucks, because I typically like people, and enjoy meeting new people. and a decent number of newcomers are nice enough, even though they're hopelessly naive. it also has very little to do with being actually born here, because I grew up with a lot of sh*theads who have thankfully moved to other states. if you have the mountain mindset, you will find a great community.

That community however is vastly outnumbered by greedy and careless people who vacation here and leave trash EVERYWHERE, or who move here to cash in on that thur wite gold, or move out here half cocked with the idea that it would be cool to live in a ski town for a season to 'find themselves'.
Most people I know don't even ski, in one of the best areas for skiing in north America. walk into any storefront or hotel in the winter, and you are very likely going to hear someone complain that its too cold(cold? really? in January at eight thousand feet in the rocky mountains, in a valley that sees about 5 hours of sunlight during the day?)and most of the rest that DO ski, ski less than your average front range weekend warrior. we have a unique lifestyle and heritage that is quickly becoming lost amongst the faceless crowds, and that is honestly one of the most depressing things I can imagine.

so if you ever visit the mountains and meet people who don't really want to talk to you about how bad the drive from denver was that morning, or how you just moved here and didnt realize you needed snow tires on your f*cking mustang, or have to eat ramen because food is insanely expensive, or cant find a place to live because $1,000 per room is now the going rate and you make ten bucks an hour, or how you are dreading winter because you like living someplace warm, maybe you'll understand why they don't really feel like rolling out the welcome mat for you and sympathy is in short supply.

on the other hand, if you roll into town in a 4Runner looking for trails and are a decent human being, there are a ton of 4runner and tacoma owners you will get along with just fine.
 
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well, I did hear that the junkies hanging around the grow operations and dispensaries down in denver got way out of control, there were a bunch of break-ins, more petty crime, etc.
nothing really changed in the smaller towns, especially ski towns. sure, now there's a storefront where you can go buy legally, but it seems like most new transplants don't seem to realize that weed was ALWAYS here, and pretty much the whole town smokes. fun facts: vail resorts has a strict policy of only drug testing if there is an 'incident' because they tried mandatory drug testing and couldn't come close to staffing mountain operations. wal-mart and home depot in Avon have the highest employee turnover rate in the country because of their national drug testing policy. legalization didnt really change anything. the newbies are still mostly idiots that get busted for smoking blatantly in public like retards, the ganjala is called that for a reason, and if you know what a safety meeting is, you've been here long enough to figure it all out.

unfortunately, legalization has made the tourist hordes more aware of the local reality, which has resulted in a few 'incidents' like this hilarious piece of journalism:

New York tourist rips Vail in hilarious letter because people were talking about pot | Westword

but on the other side of the coin, the people you are most likely to see in the pot shops are second homeowners in their 50s with their noses pressed against the glass like giddy schoolchildren because they can relive their wild party years for a couple nights a year in their ridiculously overpriced ski/in ski/out condo.


/separate rant:

for the mountains at least, legalization is not the problem. the problem is I-70, which is a major pipeline for the seriously dangerous drugs. quite a few kids I knew growing up have overdosed on heroin, several have died. Leadville has the second highest rate of AIDS in the country, primarily because of IV drug use. meth is a big problem, especially in grade school, which is terrifying. and the further you get away from the moneyed resort areas, the more tweakers and junkies you will find. poverty is a big problem in mining and ranching communities, and meth is overwhelmingly prevalent. we also have some of the highest suicide rates nationally as people drop everything and move to the mountains to live their dream life, only to realize later that their problems followed them here.

so to summarize, we have much bigger problems than legalizing a largely harmless plant that has far more benefits and is far less damaging than alcohol. in my opinion, people are flooding our state because of overly successful advertising campaigns and the so-called 'white gold rush.' winter sports are big business, and that money has almost completely destroyed my home. the park service has openly acknowledged that social media is the single most destructive tool that has caused overcrowding and vandalism at our state's most scenic destinations.

Hanging Lake faces challenges from too many visitors

every idiot you can imagine just has to take a selfie at hanging lake, or maroon bells, or the best hot springs I used to enjoy, or the cave systems, or the best ski runs, or formerly little known powder stashes, and openly invite their brainless twitter followers to partake, while geotagging the location. it all makes me want to puke.

you know, I do appreciate the fact that people love the mountains, and a lot of them want to save what remains before its overrun. and yes, I do understand that to save it we have to show it to the public so they can love it and want to protect it.
However, when 85% of our population is seasonal, we have a big problem. each new person I meet, the initial conversation goes almost exactly like this:

Natives don't ask people where they are from, unless they're hitting on them and trying to get a number. THEN we will pretend to be interested, because boobs. or whatever it is you're interested in.

and it really sucks, because I typically like people, and enjoy meeting new people. and a decent number of newcomers are nice enough, even though they're hopelessly naive. it also has very little to do with being actually born here, because I grew up with a lot of sh*theads who have thankfully moved to other states. if you have the mountain mindset, you will find a great community.

That community however is vastly outnumbered by greedy and careless people who vacation here and leave trash EVERYWHERE, or who move here to cash in on that thur wite gold, or move out here half cocked with the idea that it would be cool to live in a ski town for a season to 'find themselves'.
Most people I know don't even ski, in one of the best areas for skiing in north America. walk into any storefront or hotel in the winter, and you are very likely going to hear someone complain that its too cold(cold? really? in January at eight thousand feet in the rocky mountains, in a valley that sees about 5 hours of sunlight during the day?)and most of the rest that DO ski, ski less than your average front range weekend warrior. we have a unique lifestyle and heritage that is quickly becoming lost amongst the faceless crowds, and that is honestly one of the most depressing things I can imagine.

so if you ever visit the mountains and meet people who don't really want to talk to you about how bad the drive from denver was that morning, or how you just moved here and didnt realize you needed snow tires on your f*cking mustang, or have to eat ramen because food is insanely expensive, or cant find a place to live because $1,000 per room is now the going rate and you make ten bucks an hour, or how you are dreading winter because you like living someplace warm, maybe you'll understand why they don't really feel like rolling out the welcome mat for you and sympathy is in short supply.

on the other hand, if you roll into town in a 4Runner looking for trails and are a decent human being, there are a ton of 4runner and tacoma owners you will get along with just fine.

I read your whole statement/rant, but still can't get over your statement of "meth" and "gradeschool" mentioned in the same sentence. You mean like, the grades before highschool?
 
I read your whole statement/rant, but still can't get over your statement of "meth" and "gradeschool" mentioned in the same sentence. You mean like, the grades before highschool?

yeah unfortunately you read that correctly. When I was a kid, a bunch of my friends started smoking weed and crushing and snorting painkillers around 12-13 years old, but apparently the new trend(a LEO told me last year its getting better, but still) is meth. I knew two people who first smoked meth at 13, but that was a hell of a lot more rare than it is now. friends went to prison for selling weed and coke, had a drug house across the street from me busted when I was in high school with piles of coke on the tables and AKs and shotguns in the basement. and this is not a bad part of town. we're talking residential neighborhood between vail and bc where single family homes sell for over a million. the rich kids snort coke while the poorer ones find the meth. its total insanity.

a friend's dad was the eagle county coroner for a number of years. he absolutely scared the hell out of us with some of the gnarliest stories you could imagine. for whatever reason I was never into peer pressure, never touched drugs thank god. got in enough trouble with underage drinking, but thats harmless compared to pretty much everything else I've seen. watched people full on self destruct.
 
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yeah unfortunately you read that correctly. When I was a kid, a bunch of my friends started smoking weed and crushing and snorting painkillers around 12-13 years old, but apparently the new trend(a LEO told me last year its getting better, but still) is meth. I knew two people who first smoked meth at 13, but that was a hell of a lot more rare than it is now. friends went to prison for selling weed and coke, had a drug house across the street from me busted when I was in high school with piles of coke on the tables and AKs and shotguns in the basement. and this is not a bad part of town. we're talking residential neighborhood between vail and bc where single family homes sell for over a million. the rich kids snort coke while the poorer ones find the meth. its total insanity.

a friend's dad was the eagle county coroner for a number of years. he absolutely scared the hell out of us with some of the gnarliest stories you could imagine. for whatever reason I was never into peer pressure, never touched drugs thank god. got in enough trouble with underage drinking, but thats harmless compared to pretty much everything else I've seen. watched people full on self destruct.

As a father, I say... it starts and ends with parents.
 

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