My Budget Retrofit

johnsonnate

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I've been wanting to join the retrofit word for a bit now, and so i took the plunge back in October and ordered everything. Due to some personal issues, I didn't start the project till mid December, and have finally tuned it this past week. Tell me what you think.

It started with ordering these guys, I didn't really want to spend too much money doing my first retro, so this projector fit the bill, not too expensive, and certainly not too experience heavy.
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You'll notice that the order is for regular Panamera shrouds, and after looking through other peoples threads, I realized that I liked the look of the halos. So, I ordered a set.

Since everybody is doing a retro, or has done one, everybody already knows how to bake your headlights, but I did mine for 8 min at 160 (lowest my oven can go). Took them apart, and set to work on the projectors:
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Definitely like the look of the halos, and the fact that the original shrouds were massive, and would require cutting, I didn't want to do that, and I don't have a dremel.

At this point, I started to cut my headlights at the back to feed the halo wires through, and I messed up bad and accidentally broke one of the mounting tabs for the bulbs so I had to go ahead and order a new housing.
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Got it in pretty quickly, and finished up everything.

Got them on the runner, and fired em up, and damn do they look sexy. I really like the chrome housing/shroud with everything else. My dad says that it really modernizes the vehicle, and makes it look much cooler. I agree.
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Since these pictures were taken I've adjusted the headlights so they match what they're supposed to be.

Halos have yet to be wired up, just waiting for it to get warmer, we've had an "ice storm" this weekend (weather people are full of crap). They'll get hooked up and be awesome. I've also been thinking about if I want to paint my housings, and if I do I'm thinking about painting just the reflector bowl a darker red to match my paint. I think it'd be pretty cool, and something nobody else has.
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Obviously, this is a really awful render of what it could look like, but the point is to kinda blend the chrome into headlight, so this could be a route, but that won't happen till later in the spring.

So, that's my retrofit, tell me what you think!
 
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Subscribed. Glad to see more retrofit threads. I notice the tilt is off. I believe you can fix that by adjusting the back of the projector, as you tighten down the bolt make sure both sides are tilt either to the right or the left but the same way. I set the projector, tightened it 90%, put a dab of JB let it dry then tightened the rest of the way and finished with the JB.
 
Oh man, a visit from Brian, that makes me happy. Yeah, they're aimed correctly now, i had to borrow a friends deep socket set, because my adjusters were stripped. But, they are aimed now, and they look way better than these pictures.
 
I have some questions:

How much did you pay total for the project?
Is it a noticable jump in light output?
Is wiring difficult?

Looks awesome though, you did a great job. I also like the chrome in there, the black ones looks too "unnatural" to me. I like how stock 4Runners look.
 
I have some questions:

How much did you pay total for the project?
Is it a noticable jump in light output?
Is wiring difficult?

Looks awesome though, you did a great job. I also like the chrome in there, the black ones looks too "unnatural" to me. I like how stock 4Runners look.

1. All said, in addition to buying another drivers headlight and the other shrouds, I think it was around $250. I know I say "budget" in the title, but really it was just me not wanting to go for a big investment on projectors.

2. I would consider a night and day difference, it's such an incredible jump in output that I'm shocked that I didn't do it sooner, or that nobody sells them as true aftermarket (aka if you don't want to do it, you buy it custom for 500-600)

3. Wiring was easy, I got the bi-xenon motocontrol from TRS and it went together perfectly.

I wouldn't say that I don't like the look of the black or grey ones, but it wouldn't flow as well on mine as others, since I don't have any armor or anything, I have a lot of stock chrome. So I think it came out awesome, but I am thinking about that red inside the headlights.

Thank you for your words, it means a lot!
 
Looking good. I took the stock paint approach, as well. It'll separate you from the pack for sure. Are you going to search for true stock paint color (code from the sticker), or just find dark red and call it a day?

I think I spent $85 on the project headlight assemblies, $60 for the ballasts and bulbs, $15 for the h4/h1 relay conversion cable, $26 on the bixenon projectors, $75 on actual stock paint (KF9) with a ton leftover for other touch-up projects, along with another $20 for a disposable sprayer, primer, and clear coat rattle cans. So yeah roughly $280 all in.

It truly is night and day as far as bang for your buck.

I'd like to see how your halos come out. Keep up the good work!

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/213100-budget-build-retrofits-6.html
 
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Thanks for looking! Yeah, I think what I'll end up doing is get the code, see if I can just get a small amount of paint. If not, I'll look into getting some paint that will match as close as I can. I like yours, I do think that you could've gone the black/grey route that I talked about up top and gotten away with it, me...not so much.
 
1. All said, in addition to buying another drivers headlight and the other shrouds, I think it was around $250. I know I say "budget" in the title, but really it was just me not wanting to go for a big investment on projectors.

2. I would consider a night and day difference, it's such an incredible jump in output that I'm shocked that I didn't do it sooner, or that nobody sells them as true aftermarket (aka if you don't want to do it, you buy it custom for 500-600)

3. Wiring was easy, I got the bi-xenon motocontrol from TRS and it went together perfectly.

I wouldn't say that I don't like the look of the black or grey ones, but it wouldn't flow as well on mine as others, since I don't have any armor or anything, I have a lot of stock chrome. So I think it came out awesome, but I am thinking about that red inside the headlights.

Thank you for your words, it means a lot!

I'm bookmarking this one! I put in high wattage bulbs but I'm not really sold on these headlights, and the LED light bar I put in isn't legal to have on the highway. I really like the chrome look you have, red would be unique though, I can get that! I have a big red TRD logo on mine 4Runner so I understand!

$250 is not bad at all, so many other builds are in the $500 range... I can buy a whole 4Runner for $500... lol. Thanks for answering my endless questions!
 
I'm bookmarking this one! I put in high wattage bulbs but I'm not really sold on these headlights, and the LED light bar I put in isn't legal to have on the highway. I really like the chrome look you have, red would be unique though, I can get that! I have a big red TRD logo on mine 4Runner so I understand!

$250 is not bad at all, so many other builds are in the $500 range... I can buy a whole 4Runner for $500... lol. Thanks for answering my endless questions!

Anytime!
 
Looks good, well done *thumbs up* can't wait to see it finished

For my retrofit project I went the DDM route. I painted my entire reflector black, which I actually regret; chrome on chrome looks more stock from a distance.

I also went with halos and ordered panamera shrouds with halos, from DDM, I had to trim the shrouds to get them to fit inside the housings; I used a belt/disc sander to shave the shrouds until they fit without binding.
 
Looks good, well done *thumbs up* can't wait to see it finished

For my retrofit project I went the DDM route. I painted my entire reflector black, which I actually regret; chrome on chrome looks more stock from a distance.

I also went with halos and ordered panamera shrouds with halos, from DDM, I had to trim the shrouds to get them to fit inside the housings; I used a belt/disc sander to shave the shrouds until they fit without binding.

Yeah, it's nearly there, just want it to get a little bit warmer, don't have a big heater in my garage so I need it warm outside. Like I mentioned in a reply up higher, I don't think the black would've blended with the front of mine as well as it does for other people. I was really happy that the new shrouds didn't have to be trimmed, it was a solid 3/4" - 1" difference between the led shrouds, and the non-led shrouds.

Thanks for stopping by!
 
now do these work of the oem leadlight turn switch? and the high and low beam are all same?

yeah, using the morimoto bi-xenon motocontrol, it feeds into the stock wiring. Now the only issue is that the high beam indicator doesn't turn on. I imagine that has something to do with needing both headlight wires to send feedback to the system, in order to trigger the high beam indicator. In any case, the fix is easy, just need a 1k resistor on the other (passenger) headlight wire.
 
now do these work of the oem leadlight turn switch? and the high and low beam are all same?

Yes. The retrofit relay has an input that connects to the stock headlamp socket. The high beam triggers the solenoid in the projector to "drop" the gate allowing more light through the lens. The bulb always produces the same light.
 
Halos are wired in

So, I haven't done very much with this recently, until today. A buddy of mine helped (did it completely) me wire in the halos today, unfortunately we had planned this last week when the forecast was in the 60s...it was not.

They're wired in now, and damn do they look good. Nice and bright, switchbacks work awesome, and they look great.

Only issue I've had is that when I am on the brake for too long, the halo's shut off for some reason. They come back on the instant I let off the brake. Now, I can't think of a reason that they would shut off; the ground and white power are wired into the corner lights, and the switch back is wired into the hot wire for the blinker. Any reason that they would switch off? On the brake?
 
Alright, so I did some preliminary investigation into this halo issue. The white LEDs turn off at 5 seconds (drivers) and 10 seconds (pass.). They instantly come back on when the brake pedal is released. When they are off, the turn signal still works.

I was originally thinking that this was some kind of ground issue, but now I know it's not. Is there any reason that the white LEDs (which are wired directly into the corner lights) would turn off?
 
Alright, so I did some preliminary investigation into this halo issue. The white LEDs turn off at 5 seconds (drivers) and 10 seconds (pass.). They instantly come back on when the brake pedal is released. When they are off, the turn signal still works.

I was originally thinking that this was some kind of ground issue, but now I know it's not. Is there any reason that the white LEDs (which are wired directly into the corner lights) would turn off?
Working with a friend, I would measure the voltage running back to the marker lights when the brake lights are off and on and also on for extended time. You are looking for a voltage differential at the marker light. I would also double check my ground connections to make sure you're not shorting to ground.

The Halos, which are controlled by a chip, may have an overload/short prevention shut-off feature that when too much voltage goes to them for a period of time they turn off to keep from frying the diodes.

Also, what year is your 4Runner? Does it require CANBUS bulbs?

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