Nanny State of the Week: New York plans to ban iPhones

[Thai]

Nanny State of the Week: New York plans to ban iPhones, other encrypted tech - Watchdog.org

"A New York lawmaker has proposed a bill that would ban iPhones from being sold in the state, unless Apple provides special “back doors” that would allow law enforcement to spy on users.

That’s a double dose of the Nanny State: setting rules for what can be bought and sold, while giving the government an easier way to spy on residents’ everyday activities.

If the bill passes, Apple would face fines of $2,500 for every device sold in New York.

A few days after Titone’s bill was introduced, California State Rep. Jim Cooper, D-Sacramento, introduced a similar bill to ban the sale of encrypted cell phones.

But the real motivation behind this latest Nanny State proposal is far worse. He wants to force Apple and other cell phone manufacturers to give the state unlimited access to New Yorkers’ most personal information and communications.

That’s not merely nannyism, its borderline authoritarianism."

 

[Thai]

Good article: Proposed State Bans on Phone Encryption Make Zero Sense | WIRED

"And Crocker reiterates that state-level bills wouldn’t be just problematic or risky, but “wildly ineffective,” as those who want encryption will easily get it from out of state—in either software or hardware form. The technologically savvy will use it to defeat police surveillance or to protect their phone from hackers and thieves, while the average smartphone user’s data will be left more vulnerable. “The ones who will actually be impacted are the less sophisticated people who don’t know how to get this protection,” says Crocker. “You’re looking at a cost that falls on innocent people, not criminals or terrorists.”"

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That bolded sentence reminds you of some other law? Oh yeah, gun control! :frusty:

 

[Sisente]

The amount of stupidity running this country is infuriating.

 

[Twisted Sid]

I seriously don't understand how people this stupid made it past childhood and then somehow got put into positions of power over other people.

George carlin NSFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs

 

[BettysNephew]

If we are lucky New York will tip over like Guam.

 

[BrianSD_42]

The idea of backdoors being good for security has been disproven time and time again.

I imagine corporations must also be concerned about the creeping state surveillance culture. There is little to stop the government from demanding backdoors into corporate networks.

The government should focus on protecting our borders and keeping people with no traceable documentation out of the country.

Paris left over 400 people shot. That is a direct result of letting people who you have no idea who they are into the country.

Encryption didn't shoot those people in Paris.

 

[Thai]

Did Hilary Clinton leave a backdoor to her personal email server?

I swear...our leaders are a bunch of dumbasses.

 

[marshal]

apple won't budge, their balls are bigger.

 

[wadle5]

This will never pass. The mindset behind it is pure stupidity.

 

[Thai]

This will never pass. The mindset behind it is pure stupidity.

If it does pass in NY and Cali, then i would not be surprise one bit. I have very low expectations for politicians and voters of those politicians.

 

[T5RUNNER]

If these clowns aren't booted out of office next term, I will have a sad for you and your states. Tip of the iceberg.

 

[Bigshankhank]

Man I would love to be a State-level politician. Spend my entire career dreaming up click-bait ready legislation with no plan for implementation and no real hope of ever getting off of the floor, yet my name would get in the papers on a weekly (at least monthly) basis. And getting paid sweet taxpayer money to do it!
Honestly, even if there was any serious agenda behind proposed legislation such as this, how would an entire state manage to prevent sales of such technology within its borders? This article, and I hate to say it but much of the relationship between media and government, is a waste of time.

 

[ndcent]

This will never pass. The mindset behind it is pure stupidity.

The thread title reminds me of a vox headline.

iPhones aren't being banned.

 

[Thai]

The thread title reminds me of a vox headline.

iPhones aren't being banned.

[MENTION=55551]ndcent[/MENTION] So, there are no proposed bills in New York and Cali to ban iPhones and other smartphones with encryption?

 

[ndcent]

[MENTION=55551]ndcent[/MENTION] So, there are no proposed bills in New York and Cali to ban iPhones and other smartphones with encryption?

Yes Thai, the proposed bills you speak of exist.

Doesn't make the idea of banned smartphones any less silly. Relax.

 

[Thai]

Yes Thai, the proposed bills you speak of exist.

Doesn't make the idea of banned smartphones any less silly. Relax.

Ok...we know that it is silly...but for it to be proposed just show how stupid liberals can be!

Proposed...of course, are you confused? Did you not read the word "propose" throughout this thread?

This is why i am not sure the purpose of your post....

 

[ndcent]

I'm mocking the hyperbole of smartphones being banned.

You're such a super all the time serious dude so nevermind I guess.

 

[Thai]

I'm mocking the hyperbole of smartphones being banned.

You're such a super all the time serious dude so nevermind I guess.

Hyperbole or not, it IS a proposed bill. What does this mean? Well, sure, it may not lead to iPhone ban. BUT, it will put pressure on smartphone (and software) makers to create a backdoor. See Europe's similar attempts.

You're missing the bigger picture here.

 

[Bigshankhank]

Man, don't go looking for a slippery slope to drop off of. Tons of bills get proposed for no other reason than to keep the politician responsible appear busy. Plus its like cold-reading, if one makes enough propositions, and years later something becomes the de-rigeur social issue of the day, that politician has laid the groundwork for their next campaign slogan; "I was for this idea from the beginning!"

Click-bait is all this is, again the media is just as guilty as anyone for fomenting uproar over such nonsense.

 

[Thai]

Man, don't go looking for a slippery slope to drop off of. Tons of bills get proposed for no other reason than to keep the politician responsible appear busy. Plus its like cold-reading, if one makes enough propositions, and years later something becomes the de-rigeur social issue of the day, that politician has laid the groundwork for their next campaign slogan; "I was for this idea from the beginning!"

Click-bait is all this is, again the media is just as guilty as anyone for fomenting uproar over such nonsense.

Maybe true...but Europe is trying the same thing...so, this is not just ONE politician or even one state.