Napa's premium stuff can be good, but alot of times you pay a significant premium for getting that part right away. We get gouged here in Canada. If I can wait 2 weeks for a part from RockAuto, I can almost always get a premium part online for less than what Napa would charge for an economy part.
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Napa's premium stuff can be good, but alot of times you pay a significant premium for getting that part right away. We get gouged here in Canada. If I can wait 2 weeks for a part from RockAuto, I can almost always get a premium part online for less than what Napa would charge for an economy part.
LittleCaesar
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Can't beat OEM. Fred Anderson or Rick Hendrick?
Take a pic or two and post them before installing them.
LeeMajors
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Anderson was the 138, 110 at Hendrick. Both a ripoff.
Will do.
This entire thread is my daily struggle with being budget conscious, or following dad's advice to "buy quality and cry once."
shiftmx
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Negative, sir. the rear OEM spring are always the same part number and spring rate. I have been through several of these sets. You are right about the front coils though. There are different part numbers for driver and passenger side coils. If you take a new pair and put them side by side, the driver side is always a little taller. This is how they try to compensate and level out the 4runners. But to say all 4 OEM coils are the truck are all different spring rates is not correct.
906's and 890's, yes, there is one coil that is a little taller than the other and that one goes on the driver side.
And i think you meant if you get OME coils in the rear, it will be higher than the front
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Negative, sir. the rear OEM spring are always the same part number and spring rate. I have been through several of these sets. You are right about the front coils though. There are different part numbers for driver and passenger side coils. If you take a new pair and put them side by side, the driver side is always a little taller. This is how they try to compensate and level out the 4runners. But to say all 4 OEM coils are the truck are all different spring rates is not correct.
906's and 890's, yes, there is one coil that is a little taller than the other and that one goes on the driver side.
And i think you meant if you get OME coils in the rear, it will be higher than the front
You are correct, I did mean OME rear coils but my statement stands correct. The driver side (which I thought was the passenger side) needs a longer spring because that side leans. I'm not talking about front to back. I'm talking about left to right. If you buy OE springs, your truck will continue to lean to one side because OE coils are the same from left to right. OME has 2 different coils for left and right to correct this lean.
Negative, sir. the rear OEM spring are always the same part number and spring rate. I have been through several of these sets. You are right about the front coils though. There are different part numbers for driver and passenger side coils. If you take a new pair and put them side by side, the driver side is always a little taller. This is how they try to compensate and level out the 4runners. But to say all 4 OEM coils are the truck are all different spring rates is not correct.
906's and 890's, yes, there is one coil that is a little taller than the other and that one goes on the driver side.
And i think you meant if you get OME coils in the rear, it will be higher than the front
You are correct, I did mean OME rear coils but my statement stands correct. The driver side (which I thought was the passenger side) needs a longer spring because that side leans. I'm not talking about front to back. I'm talking about left to right. If you buy OE springs, your truck will continue to lean to one side because OE coils are the same from left to right. OME has 2 different coils for left and right to correct this lean.
And I didn't say all 4 OE coils are different on the 3rd Gen, I specifically mentioned this for newer gen Toyota trucks/SUVs. 3rd gens they did not correct the lean from side to side.
shiftmx
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I'm aware of what you were saying about left to right, I was correcting that the 4runner doesn't use a different spring rate for every coil. Yes, the OEM rear coils are the same height and contributes nothing to keep the 4runner from leaning to the driver side. This is also a case by case basis though and what condition the front coils are in. Usually the front will hold everything level from a side to side perspective as long as they are in good condition. I am on 4runner #4 and none of the first three leaned but had 130k miles at most. The current does lean about a .75" but there is 180k on these coils.
shiftmx
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Gotcha...sorry, I misread that you stated it was about the newer gens. Long, boring day at work doesn't help
You do realize though that new 3rd gen front coils are two different lengths? They did try to fix the lean, but it only holds out for so long.
Gotcha...sorry, I misread that you stated it was about the newer gens. Long, boring day at work doesn't help
You do realize though that new 3rd gen front coils are two different lengths though? They did try to fix the lean, but it only holds out for so long.
I didn't know the new front coils are different sizes. I have the new Bilstein 6112s that come with springs and with these shocks, you are told to put the circlip at a lower groove for one of the sides to account for this lean. As for the rear, my friend put the coils on the wrong sides and had a serious lean. We had no idea why until after a little research. Kinda funny how you learn things like this on the fly.
If you would of waited. I'm doing my suspension as soon as everything gets here from wheelers. My rear springs don't seem to sag I think. Hub to fender is a toucb over 20.5 inches. I'm thinking now I might be so happy with 906's. Should of went with 890's. But oh well I can always change them later.
LittleCaesar
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Sage advice from your father.
I have two cousins and an uncle who live on James Island. My sister owns a house there rented by a friend of mine. I have dealt with the Anderson parts department before, usually their prices have been fair (at list price). The stooges at West Ashley Toy usually had a 100%+ mark up at all times.
19963.4lsr5
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With ball joints on the D60 front axle in my truck I went through two sets of Moog ball joints before I got smart. The Napa front ball joints have been in over 10 years.
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LeeMajors
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I've lived on JI for 15 years or so. Great place. Selling our house though and we'll likely be elsewhere in the area unless we pack up for Greenville, which is tempting.
Anderson has been hit and miss. Some of the air intake hose couplings were totally reasonable, but other parts have been ungodly expensive. Thank goodness for toyotapartsdeal and camelback.
LeeMajors
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Knocked out rear coils last night--was a bit harder than I'd anticipated. Took me about 1.5hrs.
Didn't lift truck as high I should've so when rear end went full droop and I picked up on opposite axle I was pretty near the ground!
Seemed like rear end dropped pretty far without taking any slack off brake lines which everyone seemed to warn about in write ups. I didn't disconnect panhard bar though.
Ride is much better in the rear. Didn't notice a huge height gain but I'm not bottoming out on speed bumps anymore. Nice, stiff truck ride like I like.
Time to do the fronts!
Didn't lift truck as high I should've so when rear end went full droop and I picked up on opposite axle I was pretty near the ground!
Seemed like rear end dropped pretty far without taking any slack off brake lines which everyone seemed to warn about in write ups. I didn't disconnect panhard bar though.
Ride is much better in the rear. Didn't notice a huge height gain but I'm not bottoming out on speed bumps anymore. Nice, stiff truck ride like I like.
Time to do the fronts!
LittleCaesar
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JI has become crowded as heck. Traffic nightmare Folly Rd has become. I had friends move to Greenville last year. They love it. As both nurses they could have gone anywhere. Harbor View rd traffic was killing them.
Congrats on the new springs. The axle does have to droop far no doubt. Having two jacks helps.
Congrats on the new springs. The axle does have to droop far no doubt. Having two jacks helps.
LeeMajors
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Thanks man.
I spent a lot of time worrying i'd stretch the brake line but that ended up being unfounded. Learned a bit though.
Yeah, we are selling-then-renting on the island right now. It's a lot different than 15yrs ago when I moved down here. Luckily I pretty much miss traffic with my shit schedule.
Honestly though, it's not the worst place in CHS. Mt P, Johns Island, Summerville, and anything connected to the 526/26 interchange daily nightmare are faaaaar worse.
Maybe Greenville will be our forever place eventually. Love it up there.
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