Need additional 1/2" lift

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So I bought the Bilstein/OME lift from Yotamafia with 881s in the front and 890s in the rear. The lift is advertised as 2.5" for both front and rear. I like where the rear sits, but the front is too low for my taste, too much rake. I then installed the 5mm trim packers and got a little more front lift (supposed to be 6.5mm lift) but still not enough. I'm wondering if anyone on here has used the 5100s with the 881 springs and set the circlip on anything other than the lowest setting? It is supposedly not recommended, not really sure why. Alternatively, is there a spacer that would provide 1/2" lift or so that I could use with the 5100/881 combo?

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The Bilstien 5100 front shocks are adjustable, right?

You should be able to adjust the front shocks to increase the lift (unless you have them maxed out already)
 
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Yeah, you should be able to adjust the spring perch on the 5100 with a certain tool. You don’t want to exceed a certain height, ymmv, in an effort to prevent your CV’s from binding.

If you don’t have one yet, you could always install a diff drop kit as well to help with preservation of the CV’s. I know that’s a controversial thing, but that’s what I have done and recommend doing.


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I should have clarified- the springs are on the bottom perch and Yotamafia, and supposedly Bilstein do not recommend raising it above that with OME springs. Not sure why and wondered if anyone here has done it. That’s the easy answer to me but “not recommended”. Anyone have any experience with this setup?
 
Soulman said:
So I bought the Bilstein/OME lift from Yotamafia with 881s in the front and 890s in the rear. The lift is advertised as 2.5" for both front and rear. I like where the rear sits, but the front is too low for my taste, too much rake. I then installed the 5mm trim packers and got a little more front lift (supposed to be 6.5mm lift) but still not enough. I'm wondering if anyone on here has used the 5100s with the 881 springs and set the circlip on anything other than the lowest setting? It is supposedly not recommended, not really sure why. Alternatively, is there a spacer that would provide 1/2" lift or so that I could use with the 5100/881 combo?

TIA!
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I have this set-up. Here is how it sits with the front shock on the second perch. It's a very slight rake, maybe 1/2". I have a Trail Gear tube bumper I need to install which I suspect will have the back end pretty close to level with the front when unloaded.

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Apologies for the bad lighting. Didn't realize sun in the background was that bright.
 
That 1/4” spacer is essentially the same as the trim packer that is currently on there. Not enough lift and I can’t add another. MCgrease08- I like the stance on yours a lot. How long have you been running that on the second notch? And was it really hard to get the strut mounted? Mine was very hard even on the lowest perch.
 
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That 1/4” spacer is essentially the same as the trim packer that is currently on there. Not enough lift and I can’t add another. MCgrease08- I like the stance on yours a lot. How long have you been running that on the second notch? And was it really hard to get the strut mounted? Mine was very hard even on the lowest perch.
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It's been about a year since I refreshed the suspension. I had an offroad shop do the install since they were also doing work to patch up a few questionable rust spots in the frame, so I can't speak to how easy or hard it was.

I did have to reboot (and stretch boots) on the CV axles. They tore pretty much immediately afterwards, but they were original afaik, and that would have happened if I had it on the first perch or the second.

It's been solid since I got an alignment.
 
Soulman said:
That 1/4” spacer is essentially the same as the trim packer that is currently on there. Not enough lift and I can’t add another. MCgrease08- I like the stance on yours a lot. How long have you been running that on the second notch? And was it really hard to get the strut mounted? Mine was very hard even on the lowest perch.
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A "trim packer" would generally be on the spring - did you use a small top plate spacer already?

Which specific front Bilstein shocks did you use? There are a few options that are all 'bolt-on' and a kit from a random vendor could use any of them...

-Charlie
 
MCgrease08 said:
I have this set-up. Here is how it sits with the front shock on the second perch. It's a very slight rake, maybe 1/2". I have a Trail Gear tube bumper I need to install which I suspect will have the back end pretty close to level with the front when unloaded.

xPBPOo5.jpg


Apologies for the bad lighting. Didn't realize sun in the background was that bright.
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Do you have aftermarket UCAs? If so, what brand and how does everything work as far as alignment, etc?
 
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Do you have aftermarket UCAs? If so, what brand and how does everything work as far as alignment, etc?
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I don't. I thought I would need to look into that prior to getting the alignment done, but since I've had the front end straightened out, it seems to be fine.

That said, I'm sure adjustable UCAs would be beneficial to some degree.
 
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Had same setup spring wise OME struts n shocks same lift. Stock UCA's worked
though pushing its limits for alignment with 285's.

Extra slots on Billy's meant to be used or wouldn't be there. :peep:
 
Soulman said:
Model number is 24-248 730
Does that tell you anything?
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Yes, those are the 'official' 3rd gen specific 5100's from Bilstein. The other options (D558's and Tundra applications) don't necessarily line up with the lowest c-clip equal to stock height.

Officially from Bilstein they are meant for stock springs and lift is achieved from different circlip settings. Since you have aftermarket springs, the bottom clip is 'supposed' to be used, but that is already outside the specifications from Bilstein.

Have you verified the spring PN to make sure it is the 881's and not the 880's?
What is your center of hub to fender lip measurement on all 4 corners?

Since you are already outside the normal warrantee-able conditions for the 5100's, just bump up the clip to the next setting (each step is ~3/4") and remove the top plate spacer...

-Charlie
 
phattyduck said:
Yes, those are the 'official' 3rd gen specific 5100's from Bilstein. The other options (D558's and Tundra applications) don't necessarily line up with the lowest c-clip equal to stock height.

Officially from Bilstein they are meant for stock springs and lift is achieved from different circlip settings. Since you have aftermarket springs, the bottom clip is 'supposed' to be used, but that is already outside the specifications from Bilstein.

Have you verified the spring PN to make sure it is the 881's and not the 880's?
What is your center of hub to fender lip measurement on all 4 corners?

Since you are already outside the normal warrantee-able conditions for the 5100's, just bump up the clip to the next setting (each step is ~3/4") and remove the top plate spacer...

-Charlie
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Thanks Charlie, I was thinking I should delete the spacer and go to 2nd circlip setting. I dont know how to verify the spring model- I can't find a sticker on them, I am going by what I ordered.
Hub to fender measurements are:

FD= 21 3/4- 22"
FP= 22- 22 1/4"
RD= 24"
RP= 23 1/2"

Also, I picked up some SPC UCAs used from a member here so will get those installed when the spring settting gets changed.

What do the measurements indicate? I should have measured before lift but forgot.. Also, I have removed the receiver hitch and the spare tire. Spare is going back on soon, hitch is gone for good, until/if I get a rear bumper.

Thanks for the help!
 
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