need quick grease help.

[Falls]

How many grease fittings are there on a 06 4th gen ??

The shaft that causes the rear end clunk if not filled with grease is called what ?

Toyota uses just regular automotive grease at the dealers and I assume that is ok since they have been doing this for 80k miles on my 06. What is regular automotive grease to use on all fittings ?

Thanks . I didnt have time to research it .

 

[borgzman]

Falls, I have this thread bookmarked
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/maintenance/28414-07-v8-4x4-zerk-fitting-pics.html

 

[veightkiller]

is the 5th Gen have this problem aswell?

 

[tranny Frank]

Toyota and grease

crazy situation here folks

Been researching this for a while now, in some applications the Toyota books FSM indicate to use a incompatible grease,

In these situations it is better not to grease than to use a incompatible one,

Some dealerships use a bulk Vavoline Red grease, with no "Moly" in it at all

Some dealerships wont tell you what grease they use,

Bottom line Toyota plays games with grease,

Lithium moly grease question. - Bob Is The Oil Guy

 

[tranny Frank]

Toyota and grease

A Grease Story - Bob Is The Oil Guy


Another link

There is also a site called the 4x4network that has a section called "Backwoodsgoop"

When this came up I figered folks would like to have the straight scoop and the correct goop,

Chances are whatever Toyota put in the rig when it was built is not what it is serviced with at the dealer ships if at all,

While it doent apply to your Rig directly, be aware of the nasty grease game

 

[Rix]

Frank....... your Links are worthless, and don't have anything to do with the question.
I encourage people to go to the 4x4network.com to see how many times you have lied and been wrong though.
To the OP, the slip joint in the driveline is one if the main contrbutors to the clunk.

 

[bpatten0416]

Use mobile 1 in all 6 fittings every 15k miles and all will be good.

 

[<<<<]

Molybdenum for 2 sliding yokes and MP Lithium No2 for 4 spiders. I use some green MP No2 and brown Moly to prevent confusion.

 

[tranny Frank]

Toyota and grease,

Frank....... your Links are worthless, and don't have anything to do with the question.
I encourage people to go to the 4x4network.com to see how many times you have lied and been wrong though.
To the OP, the slip joint in the driveline is one if the main contrbutors to the clunk.

Rix what type of grease does your Toyota dealership use??

Also this "Clunk" issue comes up quite a bit, with Toyota/ Lexus and how they build stuff, there should be no issues with basic "Driveline" components,

My gut feel here is this problem does not exist when vehicle is new and may be just a simple grease type issue as with the closed steering knuckle,

Again Rix, while you say I am wrong about all this, hey I went to a local grease and oil expert and checked all of this out,

So spline lube can be quite different that #2 grease, I know shaft driven motorcycles use a 60 % moly type paste for drive shaft splines

So this clunk issue may be a grease issue, that,s all

And Rix leave these folks to decide if my links are useless, I already know what you think, keep the trash talking nasty posts to the4x4network, folks here are generally polite as on Bob is the oil guy

 

[Falls]

Its weird to hear all this stuff. The Toyota dealers in this area all just use the same grease for all 6 and I noticed that at all of the 3 dealers I took the truck to for oil,lube,filter did the same thing. I have even asked them to grease them and they never do.

 

[tranny Frank]

Not greasing

Its weird to hear all this stuff. The Toyota dealers in this area all just use the same grease for all 6 and I noticed that at all of the 3 dealers I took the truck to for oil,lube,filter did the same thing. I have even asked them to grease them and they never do.

Well it is not uncommon for any oil change place to mark off on the inspection sheet that all grease fittings where greased but not do it,

But in as mentioned, with some Toyota applications and grease, they are doing you a favor by not greasing,

Frank

 

[Rix]

Well it is not uncommon for any oil change place to mark off on the inspection sheet that all grease fittings where greased but not do it,

But in as mentioned, with some Toyota applications and grease, they are doing you a favor by not greasing,

Frank

I HAVE YET to see a u joint or cardan joint fail from the wrong grease.

You need to cancel your internet and stay in idaho, frank.

 

[tranny Frank]

Fancy pants grease

I HAVE YET to see a u joint or cardan joint fail from the wrong grease.

You need to cancel your internet and stay in idaho, frank.

Rix, why dont you tell these fine folks on this 4 runner forum what you really think of them?

And that would be that they are just a bunch of geeks that do not know anything and not "Hard Core" wheeler dudes, (statement Made by your good friendly Toyota tech on North west wheelers when I first met the lively little Mushroom)

What causes a u joint to fail ?? why are these drive lines clunking,??

As far as the clunk goes, grease, wrong kind, thats my point If they pull the wool over you eyes on the closed steering knuckle Rix they can and will do it with other things,,

 

[Rix]

Rix, why dont you tell these fine folks on this 4 runner forum what you really think of them?

And that would be that they are just a bunch of geeks that do not know anything and not "Hard Core" wheeler dudes, (statement Made by your good friendly Toyota tech on North west wheelers when I first met the lively little Mushroom)

What causes a u joint to fail ?? why are these drive lines clunking,??

As far as the clunk goes, grease, wrong kind, thats my point If they pull the wool over you eyes on the closed steering knuckle Rix they can and will do it with other things,,

your point is moot frank.
Hardcore wheeler or not, I've fixed lots of driveline clunks, not a one if them was with sodium based #0 grease. NOT A ONE.
I Fix and maintain toyotas for a living, I do not sell grease. You're trying to sell grease.
And its not the correct grease either.
I have to have my cars hold together, they can't have failures, leaks, break downs, etc.
Which is why we use what the engineers tell us to use, in the factory repairs manual.

 

[tranny Frank]

Toyota Engineers

your point is moot frank.
Hardcore wheeler or not, I've fixed lots of driveline clunks, not a one if them was with sodium based #0 grease. NOT A ONE.
I Fix and maintain toyotas for a living, I do not sell grease. You're trying to sell grease.
And its not the correct grease either.
I have to have my cars hold together, they can't have failures, leaks, break downs, etc.
Which is why we use what the engineers tell us to use, in the factory repairs manual.

Questions for you Rix??

How would you know the base of a grease??

When you" Fix" a driveline clunk what is it that you actually do?? Replace the drive shaft??

We all would like to have trouble free operation of vehicles,
So that is why one should use what Toyota engineers design and put in these vehicles from the factory,
Which is different from what the Toyota Motor sales book states, these are the folks who write your books and teach the techs,
Not the Toyota engineers two different things

For those who need proof of this look at Moab Jeeper Magazine the article I wrote "Short Fiber grease" on the cover of the book is states in big Bold letters

Toyota Motor Sales Co, LTD

Look up Toyota Motor Sales, it is described as a "Consumer" classification, not production, not engineering, Consumer, So these folks write the advertisements come up with slogans, "Oh what a Feeling" and "Keep moving forward"
Do commercials and sell the Rigs,

Also they write the repair manuals, Educate the Techs, and in this case with "grease" give you the wrong information,

So while sure when this came up, and I questioned The Toyota sales pitch about grease, because it conflicts with what the rest of the automotive industry does, I decided folks should have the correct information and for the closed knuckle application, the correct grease, so while it is just a hunch that this Driveline clunk issue it a grease issue, I would suggest researching Spline lube and see if there isnt something better to use,

Actually I have read that Dana Spicer Corp makes the driveshafts for these Newer Toyota Rigs, not even Toyota,
So if you want to find out why this outfit that has been building driveshafts and axles since the 1920,s all of a sudden has all sorts of "Clunk issues" you may find out that

A #2 lithium based Molybdendite disulphate chassis grease is not the ideal lube and not what Dana Spicer Corp uses for Toyota driveshafts

A Quick grease question, asked to the right folks, you will get a different answer than what a Toyota salesman or service writer will tell you,

And since I personally did not know really much about grease , after working with it for 20 years in the auto Trade, I would say its safe to say a salesman would know even less,

They wrote your book,

 

[Rix]

Questions for you Rix??

How would you know the base of a grease??

When you" Fix" a driveline clunk what is it that you actually do?? Replace the drive shaft??


LUBE THE SPLINES IN THE SLIP JOINT. WITH #2, LITHIUM BASED, MOLY FORTIFIED GREASE



We all would like to have trouble free operation of vehicles,
So that is why one should use what Toyota engineers design and put in these vehicles from the factory,
Which is different from what the Toyota Motor sales book states,


NO, IT IS NOT.


these are the folks who write your books and teach the techs,
Not the Toyota engineers two different things



HOW CAN YOU EVEN TYPE THAT OUT? SERIOUSLY.

For those who need proof of this look at Moab Jeeper Magazine the article I wrote "Short Fiber grease" on the cover of the book is states in big Bold letters

Toyota Motor Sales Co, LTD


AGAIN, YOUR IGNORANCE OF HOW A MULTI-NATIONAL CORPORATION WORKS IS NOT PROOF OF ANYTHING.

Look up Toyota Motor Sales, it is described as a "Consumer" classification, not production, not engineering, Consumer, So these folks write the advertisements come up with slogans, "Oh what a Feeling" and "Keep moving forward"
Do commercials and sell the Rigs,

Also they write the repair manuals,


NOPE

Educate the Techs,

NOPE

and in this case with "grease" give you the wrong information,



NOPE.


So while sure when this came up, and I questioned The Toyota sales pitch about grease, because it conflicts with what the rest of the automotive industry does,


WHERE'S YOUR PROOF OF THAT? ON THE 4x4NETWORK, WE'VE ALREADY PROVED YOU WRONG ON THAT TOO.


I decided folks should have the correct information and for the closed knuckle application,


BUT IT'S NOT THE CORRECT INFORMATION.

the correct grease,


BACKWOODSGOO IS NOT THAT EITHER.



so while it is just a hunch that this Driveline clunk issue it a grease issue,


IT IS. YOUR HUNCH IS ABOUT 10 YEARS TOO LATE.


I would suggest researching Spline lube and see if there isnt something better to use,


COULD VERY WELL BE. BUT MOLY FORTIFIED, LITHIUM BASED, #2 WORKS. AND IT'S EVERYWHERE.


Actually I have read that Dana Spicer Corp makes the driveshafts for these Newer Toyota Rigs, not even Toyota,



AND?


So if you want to find out why this outfit that has been building driveshafts and axles since the 1920,s all of a sudden has all sorts of "Clunk issues" you may find out that

A #2 lithium based Molybdendite disulphate chassis grease is not the ideal lube and not what Dana Spicer Corp uses for Toyota driveshafts



THEY DON'T COME WITH IT, NO. IT'S WHAT FIXES IT.



A Quick grease question, asked to the right folks, you will get a different answer than what a Toyota salesman or service writer will tell you,


WHY ASK A SALESMAN ANYTHING TECHNICAL? MY SERVICE WRITERS CALL ME FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. I CAN'T ANSWER FOR OTHER DEALERSHIPS THOUGH.

And since I personally did not know really much about grease , after working with it for 20 years in the auto Trade, I would say its safe to say a salesman would know even less,



yOU'VE PROVEN ON THE 4X4NETWORK THAT YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT GREASE AS WELL.

They wrote your book,


NOPE.

*sigh*