Need some advice on sliders vs nerf bars.........

[mteolus]

I have the RCI 5 degree sliders with the step plate. They also have the kickout which I like. My daughter uses them every day to get in to the back seat. I also use them when I need access to the roof. I ordered mine powerdercoated black and then painted the step plate red. They look great.

One negative is with any sliders, weight. Mine weight 110 lbs for both. Every time you add weight your gas mileage will go down slightly.

 

[Bumbo]

Just throwing this out there in case you feel you sliders are not as usable bolted vs welded. You really don’t need to weld them on… I did for added strength, but bolted on it still felt like it was a solid extension of the frame. Bolted sliders vs nerfs is still night and day, and you still have the flexibility to remove it.

 

[Bruin1md]

I price shopped sliders and found Shrockworks Step Sliders to be the best deal.
They are already powder coated and they ship fast. I had mine within a week of ordering them.

5th Gen Toyota 4Runner Rock Sliders, 2010-2019

Install was a ***** but buying longer bolts from the local hardware store made everything easier / faster.

I'm glad I had them on offroading in the Ozark National Forest a couple weeks ago as part of the Rendezvous in the Ozarks. They protected my truck from getting body damage.

Shrockworks are what I'm leaning towards. Really good price for the powder coated set. They were a pain to install?? They didn't require any drilling into the frame though, right?

 

[Drobs]

Shrockworks are what I'm leaning towards. Really good price for the powder coated set. They were a pain to install?? They didn't require any drilling into the frame though, right?

The stick nuts are a PITA. Reading on here someone recommended taking the bolts over to your local hardware store and getting the next size longer. Do that right away.

I screwed around for hours trying to get the 1st short bolt to catch the stick nut. Once I had the longer bolts it went together a lot faster.

You need to drill 2 holes in the lower cross member (1 hole on each side). It's not that big of a deal.

Good thread on them:
Shrockworks Step-Slider

Read this before trying to install them.
ShrockWorks Rock Sliders Install and Overview - 5th Gen 4Runner

 

[Bruin1md]

The stick nuts are a PITA. Reading on here someone recommended taking the bolts over to your local hardware store and getting the next size longer. Do that right away.

I screwed around for hours trying to get the 1st short bolt to catch the stick nut. Once I had the longer bolts it went together a lot faster.

You need to drill 2 holes in the lower cross member (1 hole on each side). It's not that big of a deal.

Good thread on them:
Shrockworks Step-Slider

Read this before trying to install them.
ShrockWorks Rock Sliders Install and Overview - 5th Gen 4Runner

Thanks. I'll check out the threads. If you could do it over, would you go RSG/some other brand over the Shrockrocks, for ease of installation and lack of having to drill?

 

[Drobs]

Shrockworks are what I'm leaning towards. Really good price for the powder coated set. They were a pain to install?? They didn't require any drilling into the frame though, right?

I'd lean towards RSG angled sliders.

The problem with any slider / nerf bar is getting in and out of the vehicle without dirtying your pants leg. These Shrockworks are just as bad as the Predator nerf bars in that respect. They stick out at a 90 degree angle from the frame. Necessary evil for offroading, I guess.

I'd love a slider that hugged the driver and passenger doors tightly and bumped out towards the rear passenger doors.

The old H2 Hummer and old body style Jeep Liberty had factory sliders that hugged the frame / body.

 

[rageandlove]

I have the RCI 5 degree sliders with the step plate. They also have the kickout which I like. My daughter uses them every day to get in to the back seat. I also use them when I need access to the roof. I ordered mine powerdercoated black and then painted the step plate red. They look great.

One negative is with any sliders, weight. Mine weight 110 lbs for both. Every time you add weight your gas mileage will go down slightly.

If you are not planning heavy duty rock crawling and are worried about weight (and maintenance ... steel will rust eventually) GreenLane Offroad sells sliders made of aluminum. Half the weight, no rust, no drill install.

That's what I put on. While you prob don't want to use them with high lift, I've bounced them off numerous boulders last summer when out on trails and they are fine for that.

They come flat, angled, full plate, half plate.

 

[Bruin1md]

I have these the Tyger bars on my 17 Pro. Plan on taking them off and putting them on my 2020 Army green when it comes in. I don’t off road but I love how these look and really protect the side of truck because how far they stick out. Especially for door dings.

Now these look interesting............ do they have better ground clearance than most after market steps (ie-- is their clearance similar to true sliders)?

 

[Bruin1md]

If you are not planning heavy duty rock crawling and are worried about weight (and maintenance ... steel will rust eventually) GreenLane Offroad sells sliders made of aluminum. Half the weight, no rust, no drill install.

That's what I put on. While you prob don't want to use them with high lift, I've bounced them off numerous boulders last summer when out on trails and they are fine for that.

They come flat, angled, full plate, half plate.

these look like a really good option, too--thanks

 

[JP421]

If you have even the slightest idea that you may want/need sliders I wouldn't spend a dime on steps of any kind. You'll just regret it later.

 

[CharlesNellis]

I was in the same debacle. Sliders or nerf bar. Even though I may not need sliders, I forked the extra for sliders. I'm fat so I didn't want the mounting points to become weak and bendy like they did on my previous SUV with nerfbars. All my weight getting on and off the nerf bar accessing the roof to affix kayaks to the roof over 50 times eventually wore out the mounting points on my Kia's nerf bars and they starting becoming loose.

I'm happy I went with the shrokworks step sliders because the price was right and they are functional as steps too.

I used the stock hardware they came with. The stick nuts are easy. You mock the orientation they will be in and bend them to roughly that shape before inserting them into the frame.

I did not drill the extra holes. I felt it was plenty strong enough for what I would be doing with them. I can always go back and drill if I needed to.

I also did not drop the gas tank skid. You only need to undo that one strap/skid mounting spot where the slider will bolt to.

If I could do it again, I would say forget my girlfriend and stay slider less lol. Just kidding. With a mild lift they are a necessity for me now and I'd buy the same set over again.

 

[DeltaWhiskey]

If you are not planning heavy duty rock crawling and are worried about weight (and maintenance ... steel will rust eventually) GreenLane Offroad sells sliders made of aluminum. Half the weight, no rust, no drill install.

That's what I put on. While you prob don't want to use them with high lift, I've bounced them off numerous boulders last summer when out on trails and they are fine for that.

They come flat, angled, full plate, half plate.

While I was intrigued with these during my research phase, at just over $1100 US delivered they quickly lost their appeal. I can nearly buy 2 sets of RSG for that price should they ever rust through (I highly doubt that would happen). I am not bashing or promoting, but my personal experience so far is that I unquestionably made the right choice with RSG. :thumb3:

 

[Bumbo]

Ouch... Demello is somewhat local to me, which did play a role in my decision to go with them.

$462 was my total for those bolt on sliders.

 

[DeltaWhiskey]

Ouch... Demello is somewhat local to me, which did play a role in my decision to go with them.

$462 was my total for those bolt on sliders.

great price, were you their first customer or what? LOL
I shopped them too, $1000
2010-2019 4RUNNER STEALTH SERIES KICK OUTS - Demello Offroad

 

[Bumbo]

great price, were you their first customer or what? LOL
I shopped them too, $1000
2010-2019 4RUNNER STEALTH SERIES KICK OUTS - Demello Offroad

Holy crap... its been a while since I went to their website. They must have raised the pricing.

I bought them 3 years ago, went with the bolt on hybrid model in bare steel and picked it up.

Now i'm glad I welded it on in case someone tries to steal them lol.

 

[RusPro17]

Now these look interesting............ do they have better ground clearance than most after market steps (ie-- is their clearance similar to true sliders)?

I think they do. The clearance is is similar. What I like about them to when ever I Here rocks hitting metal it hitting these. And the finish on them are pretty damn good. That is why I hope they fit my 2020. As long as the holds did not change they should fit. I have no chips in the finish and no rust on them. Hope this helps.

 

[RedRunner_87]

This is the wrong application of a Hi-Lift. Stock jack on a peice of wood is far more stable. Hi-Lift should be used for recoveries, not changing tires.

Emergencies happen and you might have to improvise. I guess I should say you can buy a slider adaptor for the hi-lift and use the sliders as a jack point in case of emergencies.

 

[Bumbo]

The ONLY reason to use a li-lift is for emergencies.

For me it is a last resort use tool… it’s pretty sketchy even in ideal conditions.

Also agree with buying the adapters / accessories... they help towards a safer operation.

 

[rageandlove]

While I was intrigued with these during my research phase, at just over $1100 US delivered they quickly lost their appeal. I can nearly buy 2 sets of RSG for that price should they ever rust through (I highly doubt that would happen). I am not bashing or promoting, but my personal experience so far is that I unquestionably made the right choice with RSG. :thumb3:

It's $1100 CDN, which is more like $825 US.

Aluminum is more expensive. You will see that if you compare skid plates too (e.g. RCI who makes the same thing in both ... Aluminum is a premium.)

 

[MooseT4R]

We were in a very similar situation. We originally bought NFABs because why would we need sliders really. Well, first trip out west in the 4R we were thinking they wouldn’t be bad to have though we never hit the nerf bars on anything. We get more adventurous each trip and decided to buy sliders this year. We got the RSG angled with kick out and top plates powder coated for around $800 shipped. They run $100 off sales regularly. For less than $500 difference we got armor that now only is protection but also serves as a better step for accessing the roof all along the side of the 4R and not just where the steps are. We have some pics of them on our insta which is the same as our screen user name here.

Short version: hope we never need them, glad we bought them.