New Bumpers and Sliders! Custom Fabbed CO

[Mark_BC]

Yep I hear ya and surely that bumper is weight. I think it's more the versatility and having a bit more of an overland build. I admit it's on the road 95%. And, though I would and have done trails with it here in CO into the 6 level ratings I learned with my jeep I didn't really like the hardcore stuff.

So for sure you have some valid points but again...for what I want I think this will work great. And, his frame tie in's are stout so I think they can be trusted. Also on our 3rd gens since the bumper is so high anyway it helps a bit with the clearance. The rear in that regard is worse for sure but that's an even rarer situation to winch backward.

Good discussion and I do get your points. I had thought about it a lot. I guess after all the wheeling I have done as well and figuring out the type I like to do and especially with this runner it was the way to go for me. lol beats the heck out of a comealong!

I was thinking of welding up a cross member between the front frame rails, bolting it into the holes on the bottom of the rails that currently have the hook and eye. There is good space behind the bumper for that. Then attach the winch mount to this cross member in three locations: in the centre through the 2" receiver, and on either side. That will give more support for side pulling. I am not sure how that will work if the centre receiver is in there loosely with the pin but the two side attachments are in solidly with a bolt. That would mean the receiver won't take any forces because the two side attachments will take the forces before the centre receiver even "firms up". Maybe I'll use smaller 1" receivers on the sides so each of the three (centre 2" receiver and 2 X 1" side receivers) has a bit of play in it.

I just don't like the idea of the winch always sitting there when I won't use it much. And it would protrude from the bumper. Plus with a removable winch I can put it on the back if I need it.

 

[Sean K.]

I was thinking of welding up a cross member between the front frame rails, bolting it into the holes on the bottom of the rails that currently have the hook and eye. There is good space behind the bumper for that. Then attach the winch mount to this cross member in three locations: in the centre through the 2" receiver, and on either side. That will give more support for side pulling. I am not sure how that will work if the centre receiver is in there loosely with the pin but the two side attachments are in solidly with a bolt. That would mean the receiver won't take any forces because the two side attachments will take the forces before the centre receiver even "firms up". Maybe I'll use smaller 1" receivers on the sides so each of the three (centre 2" receiver and 2 X 1" side receivers) has a bit of play in it.

I just don't like the idea of the winch always sitting there when I won't use it much. And it would protrude from the bumper. Plus with a removable winch I can put it on the back if I need it.

Cut the grill and design the bumper right and with a permanent mount front winch it won't stick out as far as the factory bumper does.

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[Co4Fun]

Cut the grill and design the bumper right and with a permanent mount front winch it won't stick out as far as the factory bumper does.

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Yep and before you get too far check out this forum because I think CBI made a run of these in bolt on and there are many who have done lots with this setup.

Oh ya just did a search. Lots on here. Google "3rd gen 4Runner front receiver hitch."

 

[Mark_BC]

I was hoping to keep the stock bumper with only minor mods. With a '98 that may be asking too much to put a winch behind it. For the fat lip bumpers it will fit back there no problem. I don't want a fat lip bumper tho.

 

[Sean K.]

I was hoping to keep the stock bumper with only minor mods. With a '98 that may be asking too much to put a winch behind it. For the fat lip bumpers it will fit back there no problem. I don't want a fat lip bumper tho.

Ya, the fat lips are hideous. 96-98 definitely had a better looking front bumper.

 

[Co4Fun]

Ya, the fat lips are hideous. 96-98 definitely had a better looking front bumper.

Agreed. The guy before me had an ARB Prado on this rig. I wasn't wild about it. It was like going aftermarket and keeping the fat lip. Plus it was wide and low. I think what he fabbed up with me here is about right. It's less than 4" sticking out. It was easier for him since he didn't have to deal with a place for an internal winch although he did say that mine could be modified to accommodate that and as you can see from that last post even the internally mounted winch bumpers can be made without the "fat lip" look.

 

[4Runnin2000]

So clean!

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