New Calipers, More Pedal Travel Normal??

[12guns]

Just got done w/ my new Hawk pads, Cryo rotors, and Raybesto's calipers. I bled the system excessively to get the new fluid in as I'm sure the old stuff was, well...old.
I went out and broke the pads in per Hawk's instructions. Why would I have more pedal travel than before w/ the frozen calipers? The brakes are smooth and consistant, but they don't engauge right away like the old ones did. Maybe because the frozen piston was closer (too close) to the rotor? I may bleed them one more time to ensure no air is in there, but I'm confident I got all the air out as I let ALOT of fluid come out each time I loosened the bleeder and my wife stepped on the brake. Any other thoughts?? I can get used to it, but just want to make sure everything is ok. Thanks!!

 

[12guns]

I bled them again just to be safe and that took the extra travel out. No problems now. Guess I should have tried that first! Now I can tell I have Hawk pads with Cryo rotors. Stops like it means it!!

 

[fatkins]

brake pedal

Found this link useful, making sure to limit pedal travel when pumping the brakes: Brake Flushing

 

[12guns]

Good info, I didn't know it mattered. My wife must have been easier on the brake pedal the second time...everything seems back to normal. I'll do it one more time tomorrow evening to ensure there are no issues. Thanks for the link.

On a positive note, the cryo rotors and hawk pads seem very strong and responsive. I'll post a new thread after I break them in some more and maybe give a report after towing a 5k lb boat around. Thanks again.

 

[TRADICLES]

Brakes

I bled them again just to be safe and that took the extra travel out. No problems now. Guess I should have tried that first! Now I can tell I have Hawk pads with Cryo rotors. Stops like it means it!!

I installed my CRYO/HAWK/ Reman CALIPER/STAINLESS LINE/ SPEEDBLEEDER fronts the other day.I have a little pedal travel too.It does stop better though,i'm going to do a thorough rebleed after i install the rear rotor setups.I got new calipers coming.Glad to hear yours are working great,gives me something to look foward too.

 

[TRADICLES]

Rear brakes

Just got done w/ my new Hawk pads, Cryo rotors, and Raybesto's calipers. I bled the system excessively to get the new fluid in as I'm sure the old stuff was, well...old.
I went out and broke the pads in per Hawk's instructions. Why would I have more pedal travel than before w/ the frozen calipers? The brakes are smooth and consistant, but they don't engauge right away like the old ones did. Maybe because the frozen piston was closer (too close) to the rotor? I may bleed them one more time to ensure no air is in there, but I'm confident I got all the air out as I let ALOT of fluid come out each time I loosened the bleeder and my wife stepped on the brake. Any other thoughts?? I can get used to it, but just want to make sure everything is ok. Thanks!!

Did you do the rear brakes also.If so did you have any problem with parking brake adjustment,just wondering

 

[12guns]

Haven't even checked the parking brake yet. No, I didn't touch the rear, front only. The parking brake should be engauged by a seperate cable vs hydrolics for the normal foot brake. Since the rear take a very small percentage of the stopping power, I'm not too worried about them. I'll check the P brake tonight, It's always needed to be tightened up a bit.

 

[12guns]

Just an update. I did find that my rear pads were shot. I replaced them w/ OE style Wagner pads. Nothing too fancy for the rear as it does much less work than the front. Anyway, I still have some play in the pedal, but doesn't seem as bad after another bleeding session. Overall I'm happy. The Hawk pads grab better and better the more time/wear I put on them. The only thing I would do different would be to have gone w/ a more aggressive pad. I'm not worried about dust build up as I wash my vehicle fairly often. Since I have cryo rotors, I'm not worried about tearing through a set of rotors in 15k miles. Even w/ an aggressive pad I figure cryo rotors will last 30-40k miles min. Anymore tricks to get rid of the excess pedal travel???

 

[zerowkul98]

My 03' had some pedal-travel changes. Long story short, there were no reman. Toyota calipers available, so i got some A1 Carbone calipers and had ALL NEW OEM rotors AND pads, AND had the dealership bleed the lines and overall make sure it was all good.

The head tech told me that whenever you change anything in the brake lines / calipers that it will NEVER be the same as the original. So i have some pedal travel, but it stops fine. I only get nervous cuz i hear the booster kick in a little more often than id like, and I fear i'll have to replace that someday, and thats BIG BUCKS.

 

[4RunnerFan]

How often should we change out brake fluid?

This thread got me thinking about how often the brake fluid should be flushed.

The Toyota Scheduled Maintenance Guide says to "Visually inspect brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs" and "Inspect brake lines and hoses" at every service interval, but looking at the service points all the way out to 120,000 miles I couldn't find anything that said to actually flush the brake fluid. Must have missed it.