New Duratracs

I have the exact same tires the OP posted, both size and load range. If I could go back to before I bought them, there is no way in hell I would've gotten the E. They ride rough as hell, you definitely notice the extra weight, and the performance at this altitude can only be described as anemic. They do decent in loose snow, but are as crappy as can be expected on hard packed or ice. I have no trouble driving on them all winter here. I just wish I had not gotten the E load and got the C load instead.

I wish you could get Duratrac 285/75/16s in load range C but they don't make them in that anymore, not even a D! I'm curious cause I have 265/75 AT3's E range and am wondering how much of a difference 285/75 in E would be for Duratracs...my AT3s do very well in the NJ snow, but thats prob different from CO and hardpacked snow 6 months a year tho
 
Well shit.


Discount Tire may not know this!

Ohh they will know it when you go in and try to warranty your non mileage warranty tires. I had a shop tell me same thing. 50k mile warranty. I went in because one had worn really bad on the rear of my car and they would do NOTHING. Because they had no warranty and dumb ass lied at counter. No madder how much I complained nothing happened.
 
I have 285/75/16 Cooper ST Maxx tires. Just got them in May/June and haven't had them in snow yet. We are supposed to get our first snow fall this evening so I will be testing them out. I can report back my opinions if anyone is interested.
 
I have 285/75/16 Cooper ST Maxx tires. Just got them in May/June and haven't had them in snow yet. We are supposed to get our first snow fall this evening so I will be testing them out. I can report back my opinions if anyone is interested.

Yes please! And what load rating did you get? Do they come in different ratings or only E?
 
Son of a bit...I really wish I had read this thread before I bought my C rated 265/75 16 Duratracs. I had a feeling I should have just gotten something a bit less aggressive/expensive for the occasional wheeling I do and then just get Blizzacks that I only use in the winter.

Hearing the other CO folks chime in about this makes me a bit worried. We will call out of work if it snows 2" but we'll haul ass up i70 in 10" of snow and hardpacked ice for a powder day. I am no different. I had read great reviews for Duratrac's winter performance, but this makes me doubt those reviews now.

Crap.
 
Son of a bit...I really wish I had read this thread before I bought my C rated 265/75 16 Duratracs. I had a feeling I should have just gotten something a bit less aggressive/expensive for the occasional wheeling I do and then just get Blizzacks that I only use in the winter.

Hearing the other CO folks chime in about this makes me a bit worried. We will call out of work if it snows 2" but we'll haul ass up i70 in 10" of snow and hardpacked ice for a powder day. I am no different. I had read great reviews for Duratrac's winter performance, but this makes me doubt those reviews now.

Crap.

I am part of a Toyota 4WD group on Facebook and it seems everyone runs the Duratracs. I asked about them and they have all said they do great in the snow, but of course the Blizzacks tires will do better, they are a dedicated winter tire. I am getting the Duratracs, but I also believe people cry way to much. I ran 32' BFG M/T's in the snow on my Grand Cherokee and had no issues with them. That included climbing up and down the mountains to ski resorts.
 
Well shit.


Discount Tire may not know this!

I'm sure some Discount Tire employees know it, but I've dealt with plenty of clueless tire store employees over the years. So I wouldn't assume that they all know it.

At any rate, the Warranty (and the exclusions) are stated on Goodyear's website.
 
I am part of a Toyota 4WD group on Facebook and it seems everyone runs the Duratracs. I asked about them and they have all said they do great in the snow, but of course the Blizzacks tires will do better, they are a dedicated winter tire. I am getting the Duratracs, but I also believe people cry way to much. I ran 32' BFG M/T's in the snow on my Grand Cherokee and had no issues with them. That included climbing up and down the mountains to ski resorts.

I run M/T's and also have no issue getting around in snow and ice. Doesnt mean they work well though. Wife gets in my truck and asked me two days ago whats wrong with my tires. I said nothing they are M/T.
 
Yes please! And what load rating did you get? Do they come in different ratings or only E?
I have load E. Pretty sure for the 285s the only option is E rating.

Here are a couple of the reviews I read before deciding on the Coopers.

Cooper Discover S T Maxx Review: Off-Road.com
http://expeditionportal.com/field-tested-cooper-st-maxx/

I will say a determining factor was being able to get a set 4 for $720 shipped. (Discount Tire special on Ebay - $100 off over $400)
 
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I run M/T's and also have no issue getting around in snow and ice. Doesnt mean they work well though. Wife gets in my truck and asked me two days ago whats wrong with my tires. I said nothing they are M/T.

If you know how to drive in the snow I think most tires will be fine. Hell I drove a lowered 350Z with summer tires in a pretty good snow storm. Wasn't too bad if you know what you are dealing with. Obviously Duratracs aren't going to be the greatest snow tires but I think they will do a good enough job.
 
I am part of a Toyota 4WD group on Facebook and it seems everyone runs the Duratracs. I asked about them and they have all said they do great in the snow, but of course the Blizzacks tires will do better, they are a dedicated winter tire. I am getting the Duratracs, but I also believe people cry way to much. I ran 32' BFG M/T's in the snow on my Grand Cherokee and had no issues with them. That included climbing up and down the mountains to ski resorts.


So, that's what I was seeing in the research I was doing. I was replacing some 5 year old Yoko Geolander A/T-S that still had 8/32 tread 30k miles, but became terrible in the snow last winter.

My comparisons were really only looking at whether the duratracs were better than the geolanders in snow. I was able to get my duratracs for $160 a tire through Discount, so I hopped on it.

I average about 30 days of snowboarding in the winter, which isn't too shabby for a front range guy with a 9-5 job. In hindsight I should have price matched for blizzaks and got the duratracs in the spring.

I'm going to see how the duratracs do over the next month or so. Looks like blizzaks aren't terribly expensive, so who knows!
 
My mom's 4th gen runner and dad's 1st gen Tundra had Duratracs last time around, they seemed like they did fine but I never drove them much in the winter. The one thing I noticed is once they wore down a bit they were INSANELY loud. My dad switched to ST Maxx and the runner now has AT2s.

I have the st Maxx on my gen 2 tundra and they are complete monsters I'm the snow. This is my second winter wirh them. I picked up a pair of blizzaks and rims off.clist for super cheap for the 4R
 
Yesterday we had the right combination of snow and temperature changes to leave a nice sheet of ice on the roads, and they did very poorly, but so would anything that wasn't a dedicated snow tire. Even in 4wd I could feel the back end trying to kick out while having to be very delicate with the throttle just driving on a long flat stretch of road. Ideally I'd have a set of wheels and tires for snow, a less aggressive set for DD duty, and the Duratracs for camping trips.
 
Yesterday we had the right combination of snow and temperature changes to leave a nice sheet of ice on the roads, and they did very poorly, but so would anything that wasn't a dedicated snow tire. Even in 4wd I could feel the back end trying to kick out while having to be very delicate with the throttle just driving on a long flat stretch of road. Ideally I'd have a set of wheels and tires for snow, a less aggressive set for DD duty, and the Duratracs for camping trips.

Yeah, I went to pick up a friend of mine at 6:30am here in Denver to head up to Keystone and all of the residential streets were an ice rink. Nothing to do for that except studs really. Even soft-rubber winter tires probably wouldn't do that great on that stuff.

This is a tough call for our environment in Colorado. We can leave the fall-esque weather of the Front Range and drive into unforgiving bowels of winter within an hour. My 4Runner is my DD, and I feel like I should have just gotten another set of Geolanders for 3 season, and then gotten a set of Blizzaks for Winter.

OP, did you get yours from Discount? I know they have a very nice return policy if you're not satisfied. I'm going to give it until I have a chance to drive on actual snow and see how I feel about it.
 
So, that's what I was seeing in the research I was doing. I was replacing some 5 year old Yoko Geolander A/T-S that still had 8/32 tread 30k miles, but became terrible in the snow last winter.

My comparisons were really only looking at whether the duratracs were better than the geolanders in snow. I was able to get my duratracs for $160 a tire through Discount, so I hopped on it.

I average about 30 days of snowboarding in the winter, which isn't too shabby for a front range guy with a 9-5 job. In hindsight I should have price matched for blizzaks and got the duratracs in the spring.

I'm going to see how the duratracs do over the next month or so. Looks like blizzaks aren't terribly expensive, so who knows!

I plan on being up and on the slopes every Thursday this year. To me it is all about how you drive and knowing what you are driving on. I just went up to A-Basin on Thursday and drove on the recently opened US 6. I have a set of Firestone A/T's and the fronts are pretty bad. In Leadville my back got a little loose because I gassed it around a turn, but had no issues on the snow/icy roads on the way up there. That is because I adjusted my driving to the terrain, I only used 4WD right before the parking lot on A-Basin because of ice on the road and in the parking lot. Other than that I was in 2wd the entire time, and I have worn A/T's(waiting on my lift before the Duratrac's)
 
I plan on being up and on the slopes every Thursday this year. To me it is all about how you drive and knowing what you are driving on. I just went up to A-Basin on Thursday and drove on the recently opened US 6. I have a set of Firestone A/T's and the fronts are pretty bad. In Leadville my back got a little loose because I gassed it around a turn, but had no issues on the snow/icy roads on the way up there. That is because I adjusted my driving to the terrain, I only used 4WD right before the parking lot on A-Basin because of ice on the road and in the parking lot. Other than that I was in 2wd the entire time, and I have worn A/T's(waiting on my lift before the Duratrac's)

I totally agree with you. I cut my winter driving teeth growing up in Michigan in much less capable vehicles. My favorite mantra is that 4wd on ice simply means that all 4 of your wheel will be receiving power as you slide out of control. =p I'm definitely not in the camp of people that think they're invincible in snow/ice in their SUVs and Pickups...and then end up ditches.

When I was poking around the other day I noticed there are little stud mounting points in my Duratracs. Is that the sort of thing one can get done and then removed every winter? I've studded cyclocross tires before when I used to bike year round in Michigan, but I'm not sure that's a similar process with car tires or what.

Also, do you have an Epic pass? Holler at me if you're every looking for partners. I'm a m-f guy, but I have a handful of vacation days I save for powder days that I'd love to blow on a blower Thursday!
 

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