New expedition overland vid

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I'm just over here waiting for the next episode so I can live vicariously through someone who is living the dream.

Anyone a fan of Endless Summer?
Same stuff different hobby.

I think what these guys have done is pretty amazing, and I enjoy the videos. Are they taking applications? I make KILLER tacos and stew....
 
Interesting. :D

We had a parallel thread going with discussion on past seasons and ongoing discussion of our latest South America season here on T4R: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...ers-central-american-expedition-episodes.html

For those that watched the show, sincerely thank you. For those that watched and enjoyed, I'm glad you did and I hope it provided some level of inspiration to get out and explore this wild planet. For those that didn't care for it, sincerely thanks for trying. We (myself in particular) do participate in forums regularly and do take that feedback upstairs. It's naive to think that everyone will be a satisfied viewer and as such we try and build a show that caters to the enjoyment of our growing subscriber base, trying to please everyone just simply can't happen. Some want more international, some want more local, some want less talking, some want us to spend 30 minutes taking about gear. 2018 will swing back the opposite direction and hopefully cover more bases we haven't the last 3 years with exclusively international travel.

Oh, and for those that watched and yet "cringe" and comment with every episode... man I wish I had your spare time. I'd probably have time to work out and would no longer be obese :D

i often read where someone found the Alaska/Yukon more "relatable" than our later trips. For many in the west, Panama City, Panama is closer than Prudhoe Bay ;)
 
I don't dislike XO at all, I am just impartial the more I watch, as I feel their first season, the shorter vignettes and trips they did, were much more honest and more inspirational.

I agree with this. I like XO, and the adventures they take on, but the first season was the best. It seems they take less risk (or are more prepared??) now. Maybe they have more to lose since they are trying to highlight all their sponsors.

The video quality is great though, so I still watch it from time to time.

I actually like some of the stories/videos from Swell Runner. I believe he is a forum member as well.
 
My previous off road vehicle was a mint green 1966 Jeep CJ5 that was all kinds of hodgepodge parts and was super fun, unreliable, and dangerous. Most of the folks in that scene are very lighthearted and it's all about fun and enjoying four wheeling with the family. Very experience-centric. Throw a ground tent, some Coleman chairs, sleeping bags, and a cooler of beer and hotdogs in the back of the Jeep and you're good to go for the weekend.

The whole "overlanding" scene (to me) is way too serious and over the top. The Expedition Overland videos really capture that whole gear-centric, pseudo-tactical, lunar-landing vibe. Way too serious and makes me feel like I'm watching some documentary about military contractors in Afghanistan or something, when in reality it's just home movies of some dudes car camping and doing some light off roading for recreation.

It's all good though - different strokes.
 
My previous off road vehicle was a mint green 1966 Jeep CJ5 that was all kinds of hodgepodge parts and was super fun, unreliable, and dangerous. Most of the folks in that scene are very lighthearted and it's all about fun and enjoying four wheeling with the family. Very experience-centric. Throw a ground tent, some Coleman chairs, sleeping bags, and a cooler of beer and hotdogs in the back of the Jeep and you're good to go for the weekend.

The whole "overlanding" scene (to me) is way too serious and over the top. The Expedition Overland videos really capture that whole gear-centric, pseudo-tactical, lunar-landing vibe. Way too serious and makes me feel like I'm watching some documentary about military contractors in Afghanistan or something, when in reality it's just home movies of some dudes car camping and doing some light off roading for recreation.

It's all good though - different strokes.



Nailed it.


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For me it was first a cool adventure blog with way above average cinematography. Now it's more like corporate commercial for how to softroad a $40k truck with another $50k in bolt on farkle. And the prep is basically take it to shop X and have them install some parts. There's nothing I can learn from it. I do more custom fab work in my garage than anything I've seen on the last seasons. The suspense/drama is basically all fabricated in the production room and it shows. It's not really authentic adventure anymore. The crew does a great job with production quality and such.

In comparison, Dirt Every Day and some other similar shows I find more interesting because they actually fabricate custom stuff that's a lot more interesting. Even watching the race tracker and Facebook updates from the local team's Baja 1000 is more entertaining to me.
 
For me it was first a cool adventure blog with way above average cinematography. Now it's more like corporate commercial for how to softroad a $40k truck with another $50k in bolt on farkle. And the prep is basically take it to shop X and have them install some parts. There's nothing I can learn from it. I do more custom fab work in my garage than anything I've seen on the last seasons. The suspense/drama is basically all fabricated in the production room and it shows. It's not really authentic adventure anymore. The crew does a great job with production quality and such.

In comparison, Dirt Every Day and some other similar shows I find more interesting because they actually fabricate custom stuff that's a lot more interesting. Even watching the race tracker and Facebook updates from the local team's Baja 1000 is more entertaining to me.

Couldn't agree more.
 
My previous off road vehicle was a mint green 1966 Jeep CJ5 that was all kinds of hodgepodge parts and was super fun, unreliable, and dangerous. Most of the folks in that scene are very lighthearted and it's all about fun and enjoying four wheeling with the family. Very experience-centric. Throw a ground tent, some Coleman chairs, sleeping bags, and a cooler of beer and hotdogs in the back of the Jeep and you're good to go for the weekend.

Make a show about that, sounds great!

The whole "overlanding" scene (to me) is way too serious and over the top. The Expedition Overland videos really capture that whole gear-centric, pseudo-tactical, lunar-landing vibe. Way too serious and makes me feel like I'm watching some documentary about military contractors in Afghanistan or something, when in reality it's just home movies of some dudes car camping and doing some light off roading for recreation

If driving vehicles across the entire PanAmerican from Prudhoe to Ushuaia is just boring car camping to you. I want to spend a weekend in your shoes :cool:
 
I typically just sit back and watch threads unfold here but this time I felt I had to chime in...

I enjoy the series. The production and cinematography always seems pretty well done and I just simply enjoy watching people explore awesome places with Toyotas.

At the end of the day - it's just a TV show (or YouTube series). It's their take on overlanding and adventure travel. For a different take, there's Mountain State Overland, Swell Runner, Lifestyle Overland, Summit Expeditions or (insert your favorite show here). Most of whom I enjoy and most are pretty different than XO. Some do their own mods, some drink craft beer. It's all basically entertainment to me after a 12+ hour work day.

That said, the underlying spirit of adventure or exploration (or whatever you want to call it) common to many of these shows, minus the corporate sponsorships and extra $50k worth of gear, is what originally made me want to go out and purchase my first 4Runner 15 years ago - to create my own adventure. For that I feel shows like XO truly have merit.

And I do have headliner patches...
 
Haters gonna hate.

There are lots of people who enjoy the series, myself included. I will probably never get to see a lot of these places they have taken the series so I (and my wife, surprisingly) really like to watch to see all these amazing locations and their experiences there. Keep it up [MENTION=199978]cruiseroutfit[/MENTION] :cheers:
 
Haters gonna hate.

There are lots of people who enjoy the series, myself included. I will probably never get to see a lot of these places they have taken the series so I (and my wife, surprisingly) really like to watch to see all these amazing locations and their experiences there. Keep it up [MENTION=199978]cruiseroutfit[/MENTION] :cheers:

Me too, I love their videos. Also not going to lie to myself or anyone else - I love gear too. Everyone gets mad they have thousands in Goose gear stuff, lighting, racks, etc. I don't give a shit, I think it's cool. Yeah they may not NEED it, but if it makes them and us happy, then who cares. The locations are amazing too. It would be a little more lame if they setup the "X hanger" and did all this planning etc, but then only went on little 2 day trips in Montana. But they're not. They're going all over the world. I am hoping for an Africa or Australia series - though shipping the vehicles may be too much for them. That's one great thing about the corporate sponsorship everyone *****es about though. It's also not like they are trying to hide that in any way.

Also surprisingly my GF likes watching them with me too, so I'll take what I can get. I try and bargain with her on lazy weekend mornings - we need to cut some overlanding/offroading youtube vids in with the marathon of Fixer Upper.
 
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Yeah regarding the XO videos in particular - I love seeing all the gear. I just don't like the super serious vibe of the videos. I think it's really just the Paul Blart narration and planetarium background music that kills it.

The Trail of Missions videos are essentially the same stuff but they feel a lot more fun and less corny serious.
 
Yeah regarding the XO videos in particular - I love seeing all the gear. I just don't like the super serious vibe of the videos. I think it's really just the Paul Blart narration and planetarium background music that kills it.

The Trail of Missions videos are essentially the same stuff but they feel a lot more fun and less corny serious.

That's because Cameron is a badass narrator, he does narration for King of the Hammers, and the XGAMES.

Trail is one of those things where you're trying to condense so much stupid fun stuff into a 44 minute episode. It's people bringing their A-Game to driving, but everyone is just having fun.
 
Hate to say it, but I think a lot of the folks defending the series are folks who are (presently) on a gear-fix addiction.

Nothing wrong with that, just a choice. And I admit to having somewhat manic spells where I get into the same lol. Usually in winter, or when I've got more money saved than in a previous year.

But that said, XO is kinda one-dimensional gear-porn. And just like real porn, it's easy to get addicted to, with unhealthy results... until you just get out there yourself and realize the gear doesn't mean jack s**t compared to just being outside in real weather and having fun.

I personally strongly prefer Ronny Dahl and his ethos to XO. And I think the internet agrees. He spends 1,000% less money on his videos, and yet manages to get more viewers and subscribers with his longform content.

XO will need to change, gear porn or not, if they want to survive. He can't be making a profit off of it at 150k subs, with 6 month breaks between series, and $100k+ builds for each series. I suspect he's successful enough at other endeavors (mentioned above) that he is able to spend a lot on XO as a hobby, but I'm sure he'd be thrilled if it became his sole job and a big brand/show. But until/unless it evolves, I thin kit faces running out of epic new places to go, whereas Ronny can basically make an awesome 30 minute episode by just wandering down the empty road on a driveabout.
 
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Hate to say it, but I think a lot of the folks defending the series are folks who are (presently) on a gear-fix addiction.

Nothing wrong with that, just a choice. And I admit to having somewhat manic spells where I get into the same lol. Usually in winter, or when I've got more money saved than in a previous year.

But that said, XO is kinda one-dimensional gear-porn. And just like real porn, it's easy to get addicted to, with unhealthy results... until you just get out there yourself and realize the gear doesn't mean jack s**t compared to just being outside in real weather and having fun.

I personally strongly prefer Ronny Dahl and his ethos to XO. And I think the internet agrees. He spends 1,000% less money on his videos, and yet manages to get more viewers and subscribers with his longform content.

XO will need to change, gear porn or not, if they want to survive. He can't be making a profit off of it at 150k subs, with 6 month breaks between series, and $100k+ builds for each series. I suspect he's successful enough at other endeavors (mentioned above) that he is able to spend a lot on XO as a hobby, but I'm sure he'd be thrilled if it became his sole job and a big brand/show. But until/unless it evolves, I thin kit faces running out of epic new places to go, whereas Ronny can basically make an awesome 30 minute episode by just wandering down the empty road on a driveabout.

I love gear porn, but I am probably one of those people you're talking about I guess. I don't necessarily understand why it matters if it gets you viewers and makes you happy. A lot of hobbies are like that. It's like collecting something. Some people just like to collect whatever. Yeah they spend money on it, but it makes them happy, and gives them something to do/learn/research. Though it may not get used a ton. A lot of people in this hobby have good careers and disposable income to buy stuff, but because of long work hours and family obligations, may not be able to "just get out there" all the time. I am not saying that's a great mentality to have, just sort of a cultural norm in our country.

The videos are basically a cool way to advertise products and the guys get to enjoy their hobby. I don't really want to watch a video with a bunch of stock trucks driving around and camping in coleman tents. Just curious, what builds do you think were $100,000? I am fairly certain most of the mods and gear are given to them by sponsors. The Land Cruiser was loaned to them by Toyota.

Love RD's videos too though. I really look forward to his trip series. He's a gear head as well though. The whole hobby is filled with gear heads. All those trucks are heavily modified. I do think it is a A LOT easier to shoot watch-worthy, overlanding videos in Australia than it is here though. Just the nature of the beast. It's so massive, unpopulated, and wide open. They can legitimately go days and days without being in a city. Here is the US, it's really hard to not be within a several hour drive of a city or a least a paved, main, road. It makes for a more fascinating video to know they are way way out in the backcountry, vs 2 hours away from a city. As cool as I think "overlanding" is, its just not the same here as it is in Australia or Africa. That's why I think they are choosing these far away destinations - like all the way down to the tip of South America.
 
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I have really enjoyed all of their videos and series that they have come out with so far. It might not be hardcore wheeling but I for one would love to be driving on any of the dirt/back country roads they have been on regardless of whether or not I would even have to put it in 4wd.

Its more about the journey and the company you have for the ride than anything else. I for 1 got my 4RNR to explore areas I wouldn't be comfortable taking my old truck or any truck I have had for that matter and enjoy watching videos that inspire me to do so and these definitely have.
 
I love gear porn, but I am probably one of those people you're talking about I guess. I don't necessarily understand why it matters if it gets you viewers and makes you happy. A lot of hobbies are like that. It's like collecting something. Some people just like to collect whatever. Yeah they spend money on it, but it makes them happy, and gives them something to do/learn/research. Though it may not get used a ton. A lot of people in this hobby have good careers and disposable income to buy stuff, but because of long work hours and family obligations, may not be able to "just get out there" all the time. I am not saying that's a great mentality to have, just sort of a cultural norm in our country.

The videos are basically a cool way to advertise products and the guys get to enjoy their hobby. I don't really want to watch a video with a bunch of stock trucks driving around and camping in coleman tents. Just curious, what builds do you think were $100,000? I am fairly certain most of the mods and gear are given to them by sponsors. The Land Cruiser was loaned to them by Toyota.

Love RD's videos too though. I really look forward to his trip series. He's a gear head as well though. The whole hobby is filled with gear heads. All those trucks are heavily modified. I do think it is a A LOT easier to shoot watch-worthy, overlanding videos in Australia than it is here though. Just the nature of the beast. It's so massive, unpopulated, and wide open. They can legitimately go days and days without being in a city. Here is the US, it's really hard to not be within a several hour drive of a city or a least a paved, main, road. It makes for a more fascinating video to know they are way way out in the backcountry, vs 2 hours away from a city. As cool as I think "overlanding" is, its just not the same here as it is in Australia or Africa. That's why I think they are choosing these far away destinations - like all the way down to the tip of South America.

I just don't think they get that many views. Ronny Dahl is outpacing them by far, with much simpler, more natural, organic content. And gets in just as much gear stuff - if not more.
 
I personally like the show (it's entertainment after all). My biggest gripe is the narration. Maybe someone else other than Clay narrate, or have different team members narrate specific episodes to keep it from being stale. I'm always amazed at the cinematography and aerial shots though.
 
I enjoy them when I watch them but I'm in no rush to see new episodes. I haven't made it through the central america season yet.

I do agree that they are a bit boring, too serious, and the guys... while I'm sure they have fun together, don't seem like a lot of fun to hang out with. They either don't have personalities or they edit them out.

Where is your Steve-O? :p
 

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