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No where close, terra grapplers are a square edge tire, these are rounded, tread pattern is slightly similarAren't these the rebranded Nitto Terra Grapplers?
No where close, terra grapplers are a square edge tire, these are rounded, tread pattern is slightly similarAren't these the rebranded Nitto Terra Grapplers?
Considering the success of the Duratrac everyone will be coming out with an aggressive A/T tire. Now if the companies would make them in a 285/75x17 then I would be happy.
Oh but they do and only $208 a piece. This will be my next tire. Saw them in person the other week and they are a very nice tire. Nothing like the old wildpeaksa and have an aggressive sidewall which is nice.
I currently have the 255/80/17 STmaxx but after getting annoyed with the road noise and load e stiffness I went to my local tire shop, looked at P-Metric 265/70/17 AT3W and compared to the cooper AT3.
Looking at all 3 tire treads next to each other, they all look similar in tread depth, inner tread spacing, and overall tread aggressiveness.
I won't go into details but the Falken in person looks the same as the stmaxx but the outer lugs are spaced closer together similar to the AT3. To me this means the AT3W will be quiet similar to the AT3!
I decided to get the Falkens because they have an aggressive sidewall like the stmaxx but should have the quietness of the AT3. BTW...Cooper should put some sidewalls on that AT3!
After install, first impressions are WOW!! They are obviously not as harsh as the stmaxx from design and not a fair comparison but man NO BS they are smooth and quite like the original stock dunlops. I really couldn't hear any road noise, and surprisingly smooth! They seem to handle the same if not slightly better than the skinny stmaxx. I really don't see much difference in overall looks to my 4Runner either.
Time will tell though.
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[MENTION=111053]jaboki[/MENTION] they've been on shy of a week but I've been extremely pleased so far and especially in the wet weather we're having. I'm itching to take them through some mud! My mpg have increased by 2mpg in city driving. They are very quite but like all tires I'm sure they will get a bit louder. I can confidently say the stmaxx straight out the tire shop were louder than these, and that's by design. The stmaxx are load e and have wider spaced outer lugs...I have the falken at3w in standard load or p-metric so it's not a fair comparison. Someone needs to buy the load e falken at3w and put it next to the stmaxx for a fair comparison. The stmaxx aren't as loud as a mud tire but you can hear them.
If I had to do it all over again Id go with the std Falkens at3w over the stmaxx soley based on road noise and softer ride. 90% of the time I'm on pavement, the other 10% is off-road but nothing extremely brutal, that's why we all have spare tires.
Looks like a nice Tire...:boink:
Yea. I just found a place that does it for $140/tire installed + tax. Not bad.
After doing some research, guess I'll be going this route. $530 OTD mount/balance with TPMS swapped over :whoo:
Considering the success of the Duratrac everyone will be coming out with an aggressive A/T tire. Now if the companies would make them in a 285/75x17 then I would be happy.
Anyone have any concerns with the sidewalls on these? I think it's only a 2 ply sidewall, but I'll looking for a 285/75/17 all terrain that has stronger sidewalls than the duratrac. It's either these or the Toyo AT2's...
Anyone offroad these Falkens?
FWIW - I have the 285/70/17 AT2s and I've been less than impressed. They've never balanced well - after about 4 trips through the tires shop. Off road they are just okay. Nothing special. I've punctured one on a sharp rock. They're not bad - just kinda meh. I've only had them on for $5-7k miles and already looking to swap them off for something better. IMO the Goodyear ATS I had prior were better at everything in every way, except they're more expensive. I'm probably going to be switching back to ATS or something similar. For the price these Falken tires might be an interesting option. I'd skip the AT2s. Just my opinion.
Anyone have any concerns with the sidewalls on these? I think it's only a 2 ply sidewall, but I'll looking for a 285/75/17 all terrain that has stronger sidewalls than the duratrac. It's either these or the Toyo AT2's...
Anyone offroad these Falkens?