New or Used? Buying opportunity.

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Hello all. I've been reading this board for a long time and looking at 4Runners, LandCruisers, Jeeps as well. I have a friend who is selling his wife's 4Runner and wanted to get the group's opinion on a couple of things. First, the vehicle:
2015 SR5 Premium 4WD with 45k miles. Black exterior/tan interior. Black Book wholesale is $28,000 so I'd probably pay him a little over that amount.

My questions:
1. I've been looking at new 4Runners since the depreciation on these rigs is so low, as demonstrated by the price above. However, money is money and this rig has been gently used, not offroaded, and has low miles.
2. I've convinced myself that I need the Trail/Off Road Pro for the rear locker etc. but maybe I don't. Maybe I should go camping etc and see what I need. I'm really looking to camp/overland in the PNW and not rock crawl so maybe the 4WD is plenty.
3. I actually don't like the fake hood scoop that's a plus for the SR5.
4. A new TRD Offroad Pro would be $40K ish, so I could do a lot of cool stuff to this stock rig for way less than the difference.

Any input on the value proposition and on the actual, real world need for the upgraded 4WD bits on the Off Road Pro? Anything I'm missing out on by buying a 2015 (I don't think so).

Thanks everyone. This is a great forum.
 
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MarshallDillon said:
Hello all. I've been reading this board for a long time and looking at 4Runners, LandCruisers, Jeeps as well. I have a friend who is selling his wife's 4Runner and wanted to get the group's opinion on a couple of things. First, the vehicle:
2015 SR5 Premium 4WD with 45k miles. Black exterior/tan interior. Black Book wholesale is $28,000 so I'd probably pay him a little over that amount.

My questions:
1. I've been looking at new 4Runners since the depreciation on these rigs is so low, as demonstrated by the price above. However, money is money and this rig has been gently used, not offroaded, and has low miles.
2. I've convinced myself that I need the Trail/Off Road Pro for the rear locker etc. but maybe I don't. Maybe I should go camping etc and see what I need. I'm really looking to camp/overland in the PNW and not rock crawl so maybe the 4WD is plenty.
3. I actually don't like the fake hood scoop that's a plus for the SR5.
4. A new TRD Offroad Pro would be $40K ish, so I could do a lot of cool stuff to this stock rig for way less than the difference.

Any input on the value proposition and on the actual, real world need for the upgraded 4WD bits on the Off Road Pro? Anything I'm missing out on by buying a 2015 (I don't think so).

Thanks everyone. This is a great forum.
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Stock SR5s are extremely capable. If you just plan on camping and overlanding it would do the job well and save you money.

PS. Its not a fake hood scoop, it just doesn't do anything lol
 
Appreciate the comment on price LandCruiser. I'll check other sources.
 
45k is a few years of use. And it has no warranty. And you don't know what sort of maintenance and use it has seen. For the low depreciation, new seems like money well spent to me.
 
MarshallDillon said:
Ha! I should have said "non-functional" hood scoop!
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No it functions, to burn your retina.


OP: Any 4Runner is nice but being a SR5 Premium is a bonus with the extra goodies. Do not worry about he miles, the engines and transmissions are solid, 28k is just breaking it in. Also The 4WD system is more than capable and the likelihood of actually using the locker is minimal unless you are really going really deep into off roading. For me I got a Trail, now TRD Off Road because of the interior color and it was a 2016 on the lot in March 2017 with deep discounts and the MGM color was the color I wanted.
 
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28k is a LOT for a 2015 SR5 already off the warranty.
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I paid $26k for my 2012 with 50k 2.5 years ago, so I'd say it's maybe close to where I ended up. Mine's also a black/tan leather SR5 premium so it's almost the exact same vehicle and almost the same mileage too, just 3 years older and happened almost 3 years ago. If you want a warranty you just go buy one for $30k+.
 
I'm not worried about not having a warranty and I know the maintenance was done because I know the seller well. I think I would just put on some decent AT tires and get going. The only other issue is that it's in Texas and I'm now in Oregon so...road trip!
 
My 2013 Trail with 62K has seen some rough off-road, hours of dirt roads, sand and snow. No problems, no issues, no repairs. I have used the locker very few times and probably did not need it.

Save the money for family trips and family fun, enjoy doing it in a 4Runner.

As many others said - the SR5 will do very well for most people.
 
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MarshallDillon said:
I'm not worried about not having a warranty and I know the maintenance was done because I know the seller well. I think I would just put on some decent AT tires and get going. The only other issue is that it's in Texas and I'm now in Oregon so...road trip!
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Sounds like you already have your mind made up.
 
I keep my Toyota's for a long time, so, I always buy them new. 36 years of Toyota 4WD trucks now. It is much nicer to start with something new that you owned first. When issues arise along the way and knowing where and what the history of your vehicle has been through is beneficial, IMO. Especially a 4WD or high performance car. If you're unsure of the purchase, or are planning on selling in a few years, then used may be ok.
 
TRD PANTHER said:
I keep my Toyota's for a long time, so, I always buy them new. 36 years of Toyota 4WD trucks now. It is much nicer to start with something new that you owned first. When issues arise along the way and knowing where and what the history of your vehicle has been through is beneficial, IMO. Especially a 4WD or high performance car. If you're unsure of the purchase, or are planning on selling in a few years, then used may be ok.
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This is my 1st Toyota and I bought it new. Plan is to keep it 20 years. I have all the maintenance records and peace of mind that it wasn't abused:) Although, I also tell people to buy used if they don't plan on keeping it for a long time.
 
A good used car usually makes financial sense, however, 4Runners have amazing resale so the value proposition is tougher to judge. I'm leaning toward a new OffRoad Pro if I can find a good dealer to work with in the Portland area.

Thanks everyone!
 
I bought mine new due the 4Runner's resale value. I wanted to buy used but knew that I wouldn't want something with high mileage due to my driving patterns. Seeing the reality of that landscape, buying new made more sense. Couple that with controlling routine maintenance from the very start was an added bonus. 26 months and +76K miles later, I have no complaints to report and no regrets to harp on haha. If you don't do a lot of driving, buying used may be the way to go (if you can land yourself a nice deal).
 
MarshallDillon said:
Hello all. I've been reading this board for a long time and looking at 4Runners, LandCruisers, Jeeps as well. I have a friend who is selling his wife's 4Runner and wanted to get the group's opinion on a couple of things. First, the vehicle:
2015 SR5 Premium 4WD with 45k miles. Black exterior/tan interior. Black Book wholesale is $28,000 so I'd probably pay him a little over that amount.

My questions:
1. I've been looking at new 4Runners since the depreciation on these rigs is so low, as demonstrated by the price above. However, money is money and this rig has been gently used, not offroaded, and has low miles.
2. I've convinced myself that I need the Trail/Off Road Pro for the rear locker etc. but maybe I don't. Maybe I should go camping etc and see what I need. I'm really looking to camp/overland in the PNW and not rock crawl so maybe the 4WD is plenty.
3. I actually don't like the fake hood scoop that's a plus for the SR5.
4. A new TRD Offroad Pro would be $40K ish, so I could do a lot of cool stuff to this stock rig for way less than the difference.

Any input on the value proposition and on the actual, real world need for the upgraded 4WD bits on the Off Road Pro? Anything I'm missing out on by buying a 2015 (I don't think so).

Thanks everyone. This is a great forum.
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$28k is a hell of a lot less than $40k+ for new. Just use your eyes and a good mechanic to make sure you know what you're getting.

You can add a rear locker if you decide you need one, but buy and test and then build.

But back to $$, $28k + a few mods = $$ left over for a few nice trips for the next 4-5 years, or just save it for something else.

/dadrant
 
Price sounds reasonable and if he is a friend and his wife drives it, it sounds even better as these vehicles are bullet proof. Also never hurts to try and negotiate?
 
Ask yourself if you really need the dif locker, etc. An SR5P is more than capable for offroading and "overlanding" or whatever the cool kids are calling it this week. Personally though, if it's worth 28K Blue Book, I'd offer him like 25K for the buddy discount
 
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