New Tundra does 0-60 in 6.3 sec!!!!

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Here is the edmunds comparo for the new Tundra, Silverado and Titan:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=119281

Some noteable numbers:

'07 Tundra Double Cab 5.7L V8
0-60 in 6.3 s
1/4 in 14.8 s @ 93.7 mph

Dynoed 321 HP @ the rear wheels, STOCK!!! Wow, just wow.

This is an excellent test that edmunds did (they are notorious for their tests being too non-performance oriented). The new Silverado has the available 6.0 VortecMax engine that just gets it's ass handed to it by new 5.7 in the Tundra. The Titan is making 15 more HP and 18 more ft-lbs for '07 (thanks to VVT?). This means that bolt-ons and easy tuning will be able to get this thing into the sub 6 second 0-60 range. That's as fast as a Trailblazer SS!!!

Chevy, for some dumbass reason, decided that whenever the VortecMax is floored that it will run closed loop for 4 seconds meaning that up to 50HP is being robbed by the ECU due to fuel rich conditions, after the 4 seconds is up it goes to open loop and the mix leans out making more power as shown by the 50 HP jump on the dyno charts right near redline. How retarded is that? Chevy states emissions control for the reason for the delay. I've just lost all respect for Chevy...

Sign me up for a new Tundra around 2009-2010...
 
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It does sound like Toyota Tundra is a winner...damn, i feel really bad for the domestics.
 
Awesome! Take that Chevy!
That new engine is a powerful mofo!
The Titan's is too btw, I think they underrate the piss out of it. 12% drivetrian loss? Who are they kidding!?
 
GMZ said:
Awesome! Take that Chevy!
That new engine is a powerful mofo!
The Titan's is too btw, I think they underrate the piss out of it. 12% drivetrian loss? Who are they kidding!?
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Yeah, no kidding. It matches the Tundra up to 5000 rpm, then it falls off the table. Most likely a breathing issue that can be resolved with intake or exhaust or both. It should perform somewhat similar to the Tundra given that they are both similarly sized DOHC 32 valve engines with variable valve timing...
 
It's about time... Tundra has never been a real competitor until now.... Lots of new stuff though.. New Engine, New tranny, new body style.
 
:bugeye: Wha... Wha... Wha....Wha..... WHAT? :awais:

The new 5.7L Tundra truck from Toyota appears to be "Moving Forward" over the its American truck competition.
:driving: :bowdown:

0-60 in just 6.3 seconds in a full size pickup truck. MAN, now that's really "moving forward"!
:zoom:
:runaway:
:jaw drop:
 
when Toyota realease the 2 ton Tundra to compete with the likes of a F-250. The tundra will have a diesel, powered by a Caterpillar motor.
 
The new Tundra is bad @$$--can't wait until it hits the showrooms. Toyota's been running ads on TV on how much more beef it's got over the competition, ring gears, brakes, etc.
 
The new 5.7Liter Tundra is supposed to get 20 Highway mpg's !!! Well thats what a rep said at the Cycle world motorcycle show...
 
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According to the specs on Toyota's website, 4x2 5.7L is rated at 16 city and 20 highway, 4x4 is rated at 14 city and 18 highway. That's pretty impressive to me, but I expect it with Toyota, they've been able to get great mileage with a lot of their recent engines (The 3.5L V6 Camry/Avalon/RAV4 for example).
 
So yeah, talk about being in the right place at the right time.

A Toyota marketing rep just showed up at my office with a brand new Tundra (Limited Double Cab regular bed with the 5.7 V8) and I get up to walk around and look out the window and there's a brand spanking new Tundra just sitting there with one of my co-workers and the rep talking obviously about the truck.

Me, being the auto enthusiast I am, decide to take a break and go out to shoot the breeze with them. I get out there and my co-worker has to head back inside and so there I am standing there with the rep and he says, well you wanna take it for a ride? I could barely get the words out fast enough.

First driving impressions: Very nice. Has the same steering feel as the 4Runner, same solidly built ride, same awesome brakes. Of course it rolls a little more due to lack of XREAS, but it doesn't drive it's size. It feels MUCH smaller while driving it.

The gas is touchy, even more so than the 4Runner. Tons of torque down low and instant power available. I never could get a sense of what the real acceleration was from a stop because traction control kept kicking in no matter what surface I tried it on. I think there is a way to turn it off, but I didn't really care. This thing is FAST. Definitely faster than my 4Runner, especially above 40-50 mph, this thing just pulls through 80 mph. Brakes were equally impressive. The 6 speed tranny is nice too, real firm shifts and the manual gear select (ala tiptronic) is a nice touch. Some of the interior surfaces felt a little hard and cheap, but no cheaper than any other truck.

That's all I can think of for now. I am seriously considering going to the dealership this weekend and checking it out some more, especially since the rep told me that they want to push these things hard and they will sell them at or just over invoice. AND give me a massive trade-in for my Runner.

More to come later...
 
This past Friday I traded in my 01 Tundra Limited TRD 4x4 for a used 06 T4R Limited. My Tundra's transmission was slipping bad and this mixed with the fact that the new models were oming out any day forced me to go ahead and get rid of it.

As someone mentioned above I am also looking to pick up one of the new Tundra around 2009. Once there are more of them available in the used market and the newness has started to wear off on them I will make the move back to Tundra. However, just in the past 5 days of owning my new-to-me 4Runner I am VERY impressed! Silky smooth V8 power, very well built, and great ergos. The suspension is a little soft for me taste but my coming-soon OME lift should help that out!
 
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I visited my local Toyota dealership today and took a close look at the Tundra. It does look better in person and overall a very nice truck. HOWEVER, i was shocked to find that it's frame is NOT fully-boxed!! It is only boxed in the front 1/3 (or even less on 4-door models). The rest is C-shaped. Yeah, it is "reinforced" on 1/2 of the C-frame part (middle part). Whoopeedooo. Come on Toyota...stop cutting corners, esp. at the frame level!!

The frame is big for sure and i am sure that it is thick metal, but i can't believe my eyes that Toyota did not go fully-boxed (as other manufacturers are doing). I know that the Tundra can tow quite a bit, but i gotta wonder about it's long term durability if someone use it to tow heavy stuff day in and day out.

The Ford F150 frame looks superior (fully boxed with tube crossmembers welded thru-and-thru both sides of frame) to my non-engineering eyes.

The reason that i am bringing this up is because in a recent Car & Driver long-term test of the Toyota Tacoma, it was noted that it's frame flexed/creaked over bumps at 30,000 mile checkup. Tacoma is like the new Tundra...only fully boxed in the front 1/3 of the frame.
 
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I visited my local Toyota dealership today and took a close look at the Tundra. It does look better in person and overall a very nice truck. HOWEVER, i was shocked to find that it's frame is NOT fully-boxed!! It is only boxed in the front 1/3 (or even less on 4-door models). The rest is C-shaped. Yeah, it is "reinforced" on 1/2 of the C-frame part (middle part). Whoopeedooo. Come on Toyota...stop cutting corners, esp. at the frame level!!

The frame is big for sure and i am sure that it is thick metal, but i can't believe my eyes that Toyota did not go fully-boxed (as other manufacturers are doing). I know that the Tundra can tow quite a bit, but i gotta wonder about it's long term durability if someone use it to tow heavy stuff day in and day out.

The Ford F150 frame looks superior (fully boxed with tube crossmembers welded thru-and-thru both sides of frame) to my non-engineering eyes.

The reason that i am bringing this up is because in a recent Car & Driver long-term test of the Toyota Tacoma, it was noted that it's frame flexed/creaked over bumps at 30,000 mile checkup. Tacoma is like the new Tundra...only fully boxed in the front 1/3 of the frame.
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Its called the TripleTech frame. Its like that for a reason, comfort and ride was part of it. Yes this may be a fancy way of saying, it saves money but I bought it. Literally. See my post in General Discussions...
 
Marketing BS IMHO...we will have to see if this "tripletech" is true or not. I doubt that Toyota has broken any new grounds in frame design. TripleTech is probably another word for thicker grade steel. And i am sure that Ford F250-450 HD and so on use thicker grade steel in their huge frame (which uses also C-section in the middle & rear)...but IMHO, this is because it is cheaper to use thicker steel than to make it boxed.

In almost every case, i would rather get "compliance" (aka comfortable ride) from my suspension, rather than with my frame flexing. This was an argument long time ago among the off-roaders who claim that they prefer weak flexy frames because it can "wrap" itself over obstacles. Althought this may apply to the extremes of the sport, this argument has long gone out the window in favor of a strong foundation with flexibility built into the suspension (via long travel suspension and anti-roll bar discos).

And i can't imagine that the C-section does anything to enhance handling (as one poster wrote on FJ forum)...in theory, it should make handling more sloppy.

If Toyota argument is true, then most SUVs & trucks have C-sections too. This is clearly not the case. I do know for a fact that C-sections are much cheaper to make than boxed sections. Anytime that you need extra steel and welding means more costs. As you see from Car & Driver's experiences (http://www.caranddriver.com/longroa...e-cab-4x4-v-6-long-bed-performance-page2.html), the Tacoma's frame is not all that strong. And you can see where Nissan Frontier is gaining reputation for it's strong frame (fully boxed) and rivals Tacoma in handling and comfort.

Have you seen the frame on the F150?? It's frame is quite massive (on par with Tundra) and is fully boxed front to rear. In addition, some of it's crossmembers are welded thru-&-thru both sides of the frame.
 
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