Next gen t4r motor? (270hp)

[wfo9]

6th gen t4r motor? (270hp)

Looks like the new motor in the Tacoma is not making the power some people expected.

All new choice of a segment-first 3.5L 270 hp Atkinson cycle V6 equipped engine with Toyota’s D-4S technology

Canadians Get A Sneak Peak At The All-New 2016 Toyota Tacoma | Toyota Canada

This was sort of a leak of the number, so not sure how accurate it is or what the TQ looks like. I'm guessing it is close to the 1grFE dual VVTI.

Not sure what the next t4r will have, but it seems like some variant of this motor would be in the plans.

 

[05Rrunner]

Right now the Tacoma has 236 hp the 4Runner has 270hp so if the New Tacoma has 270hp the new 4Runner could have ?

 

[LandCruiser]

Looks like the new motor in the Tacoma is not making the power some people expected.



Canadians Get A Sneak Peak At The All-New 2016 Toyota Tacoma | Toyota Canada

This was sort of a leak of the number, so not sure how accurate it is or what the TQ looks like. I'm guessing it is close to the 1grFE dual VVTI.

Not sure what the next t4r will have, but it seems like some variant of this motor would be in the plans.

That's Canadian horsepower, or like 20 'murican horses.

 

[Jetboy]

Looks pretty close to what we've already got. If that's the number, I'm curious to see how much more efficient it is. My guess is that's where the bigger difference will be. 2mpg would be a pretty significant improvement.

 

[20DYNAMITE07]

Looks pretty close to what we've already got. If that's the number, I'm curious to see how much more efficient it is. My guess is that's where the bigger difference will be. 2mpg would be a pretty significant improvement.

This is my guess... the power we have is actually pretty good, but as far as efficiency goes, I'm sure that will be their focus.

 

[Jayhawk5G]

Right now the Tacoma has 236 hp the 4Runner has 270hp so if the New Tacoma has 270hp the new 4Runner could have ?

It seems very possible that the 4Runner will continue to get a small bump in HP over the Tacoma. If we continue to see roughly 30hp more in the 4Runner, than 300hp could be on tap. That would be a pretty competitive against current competition.

Looks pretty close to what we've already got. If that's the number, I'm curious to see how much more efficient it is. My guess is that's where the bigger difference will be. 2mpg would be a pretty significant improvement.

Yeah even if the hp isn't increased I'm interested to see how much more fuel efficient the new engine will be. While a little more power is always nice, what we have gets the job done and improved fuel economy would make the package better as a whole.

 

[JeremyB]

At least they didn't call it 7GR.

 

[cjacob316]

We currently have two different engines, that's why the numbers are different. If we go back to having the same engine like in the past, then the numbers will be the same.

 

[Jetboy]

Mated with a 6 speed and much smoother and quicker downshifts, 270hp feels a LOT more powerful. It's a pretty night and day difference between the my 4runner and my RX350. I've started watching the rx350 tach a lot more. Where the 4runner lives at 1800rpms on the same road, the rx350 lives at 2500+rpms and winds up to 5krpms all the time. You just don't notice it because it's a lot smoother shifting and more sound dampening means you barely hear it. The right transmission tune and throttle response will go a long way toward our complaints even if we don't get more ponies. Give me that and 2mpg and I'll be a happy camper.

 

[4Surfin]

horses in Canada are slower than our thoroughbreds! :hurt:

 

[Jono.ful]

That's Canadian horsepower, or like 20 'murican horses.

That's funny cause our beer is stronger and our footballs are bigger. Not sure why you'd think Canadian horsepower would be lower, given all evidence to the contrary of course

 

[Az4runnin]

A lot of Rumors about a Possible V8 option again Too...

 

[Dexter Morgan]

A lot of Rumors about a Possible V8 option again Too...

There *should* be three engine choices - the V8, the V6 and a turbo diesel across the Tundra, Tacoma and 4Runner lineups (offer the Lexus 4.6 for the latter two). Heck the EcoBoost makes well over 300hp for the full size F150. And even the new Raptor will have a twin turbo V6.

I get that Toyota doesn't offer all of this because they don't have to, but it would be nice to sway perhaps those people who won't buy because they feel limited with powertrain options or that they are outdated (kind of true). The new 6 speed in the Tacoma is a good start and quite frankly long overdue.

 

[Jayhawk5G]

A lot of Rumors about a Possible V8 option again Too...

:hiding:

 

[kboxvegas]

Is there any confirmation there will even be a 6th gen 4Runner?

 

[Jetboy]

Is there any confirmation there will even be a 6th gen 4Runner?

70,000 vehicles per year sales is a pretty good indication. If you consider the wrangler selling 130,000 per year and a few others, it's a 250-300k car per year market segment to go after, I don't see Toyota getting out of that segment anytime soon.

The only way I'd see Toyota dropping the 4runner would be to bring in the Prado 150 and just sell it as a Land Cruiser and sell the 200 series as Lexus only.

 

[Threev8s]

The taco dropped a half liter of displacement and picked up 34 hp. I am hoping that if they go the same route with the FI setup for the 4Runner, and keep it normally aspirated, they keep the displacement at 4.0 which would probably lead to a HP increase of 40 or more and hopefully a substantial torque increase as well. I think we’ll know all the big picture changes for ’17 come this January, as that seems to be when they started releasing pics and information about the taco slated for the following model year.

 

[03_4x4Runner]

70,000 vehicles per year sales is a pretty good indication. If you consider the wrangler selling 130,000 per year and a few others, it's a 250-300k car per year market segment to go after, I don't see Toyota getting out of that segment anytime soon.

The only way I'd see Toyota dropping the 4runner would be to bring in the Prado 150 and just sell it as a Land Cruiser and sell the 200 series as Lexus only.

I do not know where you got your numbers from but according to Jeep Grand Cherokee Sales Figures - GOOD CAR BAD CAR the Wrangler, Grand Cherokee and the wimpy Cherokee are each at around 200K produced per year.

 

[rydr1]

Isn't the less wind drag compared to the current generation Tacoma an improvement? Less drag with more power on a smaller engine yields better fuel efficiency and a faster get up and go...

I would say that the new setup is an overall improvement. We can only wait and see what they will do next with the 4runner, but if they go the same route, a V8 may not be needed for this type of vehicle.

This is just all an opinion.

 

[Jetboy]

I do not know where you got your numbers from but according to Jeep Grand Cherokee Sales Figures - GOOD CAR BAD CAR the Wrangler, Grand Cherokee and the wimpy Cherokee are each at around 200K produced per year.

I think it was USA sales from a year or two ago. It was the first thing that popped up. Last year it was 175k. Historically it's been in the 80k range for a long time. Only the last few years has the wrangler really exploded in sales. I'm sure that's why GM and others are taking notice.