No Indictment...

I think the point was that if for example you're Asian or the like, you don't get to say "as a minority" as it relates to discrimination against blacks, but I would think it was hilarious if you did.

Apples and oranges.

Not exactly, Asians(chinese to be exact) were the first immigrants to be lawlfully forbidded to cross the mexican-american border. Whites used propagandic cartoon illustrations to portray them as drunken crazy criminals etc. I remember seeing one where the chinese man had a bottle of liquor in one hand and a knife in the other with a crazy look on his face. Also while high class white society was doing heroin, it wasn't until asians began to use heroin socially in the US that heroin became illegal.
 
Hard to believe the point about USMCASA's minority status is still being missed.

Let's parse it like IF/THEN computer logic.

IF...someone thinks their minority status should add weight to their statement in this thread.
THEN...the minority status that would carry by far the most weight would be one that matched the minority under discussion.

Being coy about that status would be useful if one wanted readers to assume one minority when the reality was something different.
 
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So you get to assume I'm a liberal but I don't get to assume you're a conservative? That's an impressive double standard to subscribe to.


Ndcent,

I think we can all agree, your in a class by yourself.
Go ahead and chew on that for a bit.....:eyebrows:
 
Hard to believe the point about USMCASA's minority status is still being missed.

Let's parse it like IF/THEN computer logic.

IF...someone thinks their minority status should add weight to their statement in this thread.
THEN...the minority status that would carry by far the most weight would be one that matched the minority under discussion.

Being coy about that status would be useful if one wanted readers to assume one minority when the reality was something different.

it was not to say it carries more weight. it was simply to let ncdent know i'm not white, because he clearly thinks only whites are racist. fact be told i'm cherokee and irish. father is full blooded western band cherokee while my mother is caucasian. her maiden name is wilson though i'm of no relation to officer darren wilson.

as for me, i hate everyone equally.
 
it was not to say it carries more weight. it was simply to let ncdent know i'm not white, because he clearly thinks only whites are racist. fact be told i'm cherokee and irish. father is full blooded western band cherokee while my mother is caucasian. her maiden name is wilson though i'm of no relation to officer darren wilson.

as for me, i hate everyone equally.

So when I said I live in a predominately black neighborhood and experience racism daily you took that to mean I think only whites are racist? I think you have poor reading comprehension.

Also, as a mixed Caucasian Native Ameican I'm fairly certain you can't claim to relate to racism as it applies to blacks, but if that makes feel better about "hating everyone equally" then good for you man. As Jimbo says, you reap what you sew.
 
I'll take it as a compliment, thanks. Also, it's "you're."

Good catch!:biggrin1:

I'm curious, and not to take this thread off topic too much. Have any of you guys watch the show called "the first 48" or something close to it? ( not quite sure the title) but it basically takes you through the hunt for killers in different departments around the U.S.
Now I'm not wanting to point any fingers but your hard pressed to see any white guys as the prime suspect. It just makes me curious as to why that is.
 
Good catch!:biggrin1:

I'm curious, and not to take this thread off topic too much. Have any of you guys watch the show called "the first 48" or something close to it? ( not quite sure the title) but it basically takes you through the hunt for killers in different departments around the U.S.
Now I'm not wanting to point any fingers but your hard pressed to see any white guys as the prime suspect. It just makes me curious as to why that is.

I'm curious as to why you're trying to paint a skewed picture from an anecdote in a tv show, but whatever I guess. Homicide rates for blacks are about 53% to whites 47% if you were genuine in your path.
 
I'm curious as to why you're trying to paint a skewed picture from an anecdote in a tv show, but whatever I guess. Homicide rates for blacks are about 53% to whites 47% if you were genuine in your path.


:lmao: I love it how you always have a bone to pick.....

I was just asking a question, I find the show very entertaining when I get a chance to watch it. But if you must?
Without getting into more statistics to cloud the statement for you, its quite interesting the 53% homicide rate you pointed out is committed by people that claim roughly 13 well let's say 14% of the population. ..

Now if you don't mind, I gotta go find me a genuine path for me to follow, say where did you find yours? Obvisouly the same place you found the potpourri so your shit don't stink, right?
 
Population density of larger cities aside, your intentionally naive and coy "I just find this interesting" charade is disingenuous at best. Just have the testicular fortitude to say what you really mean, Jed.
 
Population density of larger cities aside, your intentionally naive and coy "I just find this interesting" charade is disingenuous at best. Just have the testicular fortitude to say what you really mean, Jed.

For a guy (assuming you are a guy, hope THATS a safe assumption) that continually preaches "humanity, empathy, maturity :blah:, you have a hair trigger for submitting to racial profiling/belittling. If you want to detail disingenuous indicators you are a superb model.

You do not practice what you preach, and that is the most disingenuous thing you can do (it also removes all validity of your self-ritious BS you throw out there).

Facts are the facts. Just because you choose not to believe/like the facts does not make them invalid. [MENTION=88597]MyHigh[/MENTION] simply stated a fact, and you withdrew an assumed conclusion, and with that attempted to belittle him by called him Jed. Nice....see, you give us all the material we need to dismantle any/everything you claim/say...and that just makes this all so fun! :bigok:
 
For a guy (assuming you are a guy, hope THATS a safe assumption) that continually preaches "humanity, empathy, maturity :blah:, you have a hair trigger for submitting to racial profiling/belittling. If you want to detail disingenuous indicators you are a superb model.

You do not practice what you preach, and that is the most disingenuous thing you can do (it also removes all validity of your self-ritious BS you throw out there).

Facts are the facts. Just because you choose not to believe/like the facts does not make them invalid. [MENTION=88597]MyHigh[/MENTION] simply stated a fact, and you withdrew an assumed conclusion, and with that attempted to belittle him by called him Jed. Nice....see, you give us all the material we need to dismantle any/everything you claim/say...and that just makes this all so fun! :bigok:

Great observation - Yes I am empathetic to racial issues as at their core they're human ones. I'm not sure how that makes me disingenuous. The belittling is the fun nature of the Internet and you excel at it.

We all get that you're some badass keyboard cowboy with fantasies of killing a minority in "self defense" or during your bug out plan, but you could at least make some occasional sense.
 
Great observation - Yes I am empathetic to racial issues as at their core they're human ones. I'm not sure how that makes me disingenuous. The belittling is the fun nature of the Internet and you excel at it.

We all get that you're some badass keyboard cowboy with fantasies of killing a minority in "self defense" or during your bug out plan, but you could at least make some occasional sense.

Yes, I don't deny my natural response to snide remarks is, well, another snide remark. I do enjoy its clever application, and you're not too bad yourself.

And lets clarify, I have no fantasies of killing anyone. However, I hold no reservations about defending myself/my home/my family with any/all means at my disposal. I do not care what race/sex/color they are. You're misinterpretation of this is disturbing, and certainly a nice looking-glass into your (an others like you) extreme leftist viewpoint. You'll fabricate anything you need to sell a point to uninformed individuals. After all, you are a board member, and permanent resident of Dystopia...right?
 
Great observation - Yes I am empathetic to racial issues as at their core they're human ones. I'm not sure how that makes me disingenuous. The belittling is the fun nature of the Internet and you excel at it.

We all get that you're some badass keyboard cowboy with fantasies of killing a minority in "self defense" or during your bug out plan, but you could at least make some occasional sense.

I would like to go off topic for a minute.

You do realize that there will always be problems with minorities right? Human nature will always dictate this and it cannot be fixed, IMO.

Now, my definition of "minority" is probably quite different than most. Let me explain with an example first:

Let's say I have a group of 100 people on an island. They are all the same race, same sex, same color tone, same build, same everything, except IQ. Ten of those people are morons (IQ below 68) and although they can function (barely) they will be teased and ostracized by the remaining 90 fully capable adults.

Now I have the same situation on the island only my ten special people have an IQ of 200, way above the other 90 people. I will have the same results.

Now on that same island I now have 10 people that were born with various birth defects. Same thing.

Now on the island I have 10 that have a different skin color. Again, we get the same thing.

Human nature will dictate how we are in certain environments. Trust me, if you are different than the norm you will be treated that way and it's not a pretty sight. Can we change human nature? Sure we can. After 30 more generations or so we should be good to go lol but time is the only way to change things.

How does a stupid engineer know these things? I was born with a birth defect. I had two clubbed feet to the point that I walked on my ankles. 47 years ago the treatment was to wear the "polio" braces (you know - black heavy shoes, metal braces going down to knees and ankles, clinked when you took a step, etc) and the normal kids in elementary school treated me like I had Ebola. Sure, there were a few compassionate ones but the vast majority was the Ebola treatment for me. Funny thing was the people who showed me the most compassion were the outcasts like myself.
Yeah, I paid attention to that.

My point is we ALL are like that. You might say you have no racial bias but so what. How would you feel if you were in the majority on that island and ten people moved in with horrendous painful birth defects and they moaned and cried all the time? How about if on that island you had to deal with a group of minority people who were blind and they asked for your assistance - every. single. hour. of. every. single. day. to help them, then cussed you out if you said you had things to do for yourself? What if those blind people spit on you and hated you just because you could see and they can't? They would say "It's my RIGHT for you to feed me, house me, clothe me, assist me!

Sure, that's an extreme example that won't happen and hey, you might have the compassion of Jesus and be able to handle that. How about the other 89 people in the majority though? Yeah, me too.
 
The term minority is more and more meaningless each year that goes by.

Currently the census only looks at like 5 groups of people and puts all Asians and all Whites, including Latino Americans together. This is beyond stupid and needs to stop. A guy from Afghanistan (Asia) has nothing in common with a guy from Japan. The census needs to be shifted to account for hundreds of ethnicities and account for mixed ethnicity families which make up HUGE percentages in this post 2010 world.
 
Population density of larger cities aside, your intentionally naive and coy "I just find this interesting" charade is disingenuous at best. Just have the testicular fortitude to say what you really mean, Jed.


"JED" :pound::pound: hahaha!! I'm laughing my fing ass off, that's the funniest sh!t i'v heard in a long time.

I simply have no need to go forth, you pretty much taken it to a level that proves you are uncapable of continuing. I held hope that you were better then that, but clearly I was wrong,
 
"JED" :pound::pound: hahaha!! I'm laughing my fing ass off, that's the funniest sh!t i'v heard in a long time.

I simply have no need to go forth, you pretty much taken it to a level that proves you are uncapable of continuing. I held hope that you were better then that, but clearly I was wrong,

Reaffirming your content in confirmation bias and preconceived notions, while redundant, I'll accept.
 

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