not bad lights, my age
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RAD4Runner
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To all haters of lights that light up the heavens and blind others, I share your sentiments.
reelamin
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Probably have....does that make them legal by the state law? Serious question not argumentative. I see it all the time on here and in talking to people...well I never got a ticket...no one flashed me...et all. None of them address the core issue...is it actually legal? I don't know for your state...WA they are illegal by law.....Oregon...I doubt it...but I don't know. Why I asked earlier...for the actual law quote saying it is legal...only because it was said it was legal.
If you said...I have no idea if it's legal but I have not been pulled over/ticketed by the cops for it...I totally can accept that....and winner your golden. Buuuut...if you say...."its legal because I do it"...well???
Just waiting to see what it actually says...so far...0 actually show it's legal.
UnderFire
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Not legal in the slightest, I'm sure every state has a reference to the same federal section listed earlier, just like with other common safety equipment laws like seatbelts, airbags etc. But with the amount of jerkoffs running around with lightbars lit up blinding everybody or very illegal colored lights like green, red, blue or purple, I sincerely doubt I will ever ha e an issue, I do care around 4300k's just in case. The amount of laws about vehicle modifications that go unenforced is pretty high, really if you don't have your aux lights on, don't have colored lights and are running mudflaps and a front plate, the odds of getting pulled over here (based solely on modifications at least) are extremely low.
TorqueOfTheDevil
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I'm finding it harder to drive at night too, I thought it was headlights (I never had an issue in my old BMW with factory HID projectors).
I Depo headlights on truck with uprated bulbs, (I can't remember which, night breakers I think) they made things a lot better.
What I have found is the new daily has factory fitted LED projectors (Also BMW) I actually really struggle with them when it comes to glare, especially in the rain! It "looks like they are bright" but I can't see anything.. Not sure if it is just me getting used to them, a combination of colour temperature / natural strobing of LEDS, or just that I'm actually blind.
Probably the latter. :crazy:
I Depo headlights on truck with uprated bulbs, (I can't remember which, night breakers I think) they made things a lot better.
What I have found is the new daily has factory fitted LED projectors (Also BMW) I actually really struggle with them when it comes to glare, especially in the rain! It "looks like they are bright" but I can't see anything.. Not sure if it is just me getting used to them, a combination of colour temperature / natural strobing of LEDS, or just that I'm actually blind.
Probably the latter. :crazy:
St Runner
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I have two tricks for driving at night. At 55 and living on an island with very narrow roads, no guardrails and lots of cliffs, I get blinded all the time. Tourist are not familiar with their rental vehicle lights and the newer cars are just way brighter period. Even if they are on low beam ,the fact that there are constant elevation changes means you will get it directly in your eyes. First I look out my side window/corner of the windshield at the edge of the road .Never the deer in headlights look at the lights. Secondly I dont drive at night. Way too many drunk clueless people out there at night
12BYotaFan
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Ok, so yellow headlights are legal for a manufacturer or importer un fmvss 108 table 1A, but it is true that state laws still apply. I was operating under the impression that federal law supercedes state law in this case.
So it *does* varh state to state.
That being said, OP, if its legal in your state, its a legitimate option for reducing backscatter at night and with dust or moisture in the air.
And, as others are pointing out, given the number of idjits rolling around unharassed with downright blue, pink and green headlights, Ive personally seen blue turnsignals, and smoked/fogged headlamps and taillights, it might still be an option for you to explore. The nice thing about a vehicle with a glass headlight lens is that its removal if you do get a ticket fo it, is just a shot of paint thinner away.
OP, Ill see if its legal in your state. If I can find th applicable law, ill post it up for you.
Oregon
https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors816.html
816.050 Headlights, rules. [Is very close to the top]
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3. Headlights shall show a white light described in Standard number 108 of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.
So that appears to say its white light only for headlamps, however fmvss108 table 1a states white or yellow.
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19963.4lsr5
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My wife got pulled over for covered tail lights and headlight covers on her 94 Cummins (Ram). I got pulled over for a smoked license cover on the Grand Cherokee.
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12BYotaFan
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That because by covering the lens or smoking/fogging them, you significantly reduce the visible difference in output. Which, especially with a lamp that is meant to signal your actions to others is a bad idea.
Tinting a white outout headlamp to selective yellow (legal unflder fmvss108, state legality may vary) is a slight reduction in light output, but removes wavelengths that are the easiest to cause glare snd backscatter in adverse weather/airborne dust or smoke. Its a legitimate increase in lighting performance in inclement weather.
OP, you coukd try a pair of these: Clip-on yellow balloon
For the same effect as tinting the lens, but its less visible as a modification when not using the headlights, and is also removable should a LEO give you grief about them ("Oh, I had no idea, officer. Well, thats alright, I can revert them to a bare bulb in a few minutes and be on my way. Thank you for informing me of the law.")
