Noticable difference going from OME 891 to 890?

[crespoh69]

Hey guys, I got the 891 but feel they're far too stiff, for those who've gone from 891 to 890, did you notice a noticable difference? Was it drastically different or only slightly?

I was only going to consider because when I ride on dirt roads that have those rumble strip like areas the dash sounds like it's going to break, especially considering these cars are pushing 30 years

 

[Zhehan]

OME shocks are very firm. That's part of the problem. What shock model did you get? They have softer versions now. Bilstein makes a 5100 designed to go with the 906 springs.

 

[crespoh69]

OME shocks are very firm. That's part of the problem. What shock model did you get? They have softer versions now. Bilstein makes a 5100 designed to go with the 906 springs.

The shocks are the 5100 bought them both new together about 2 years ago from 4Wheel Parts

 

[Zhehan]

The 891 and 890 springs are designed to be used when you are carrying constant extra weight. They are not designed to give a car-like ride. In my experience, linear rate sprigs for the rear of our trucks ride better, but there aren't very many choices for those these days. Progressive or dual-rate + progressive springs give a harsher ride. The Bilstein shocks are also valved for a firmer ride than the stock setup. The 890s have a lower spring rate than the 891: 190 lbs./in. vs 210 lbs./in. I had a set of the 891s and got rid of them due to how badly they rode with the weight I carry.

 

[crespoh69]

The 891 and 890 springs are designed to be used when you are carrying constant extra weight. They are not designed to give a car-like ride. In my experience, linear rate sprigs for the rear of our trucks ride better, but there aren't very many choices for those these days. Progressive or dual-rate + progressive springs give a harsher ride. The Bilstein shocks are also valved for a firmer ride than the stock setup. The 890s have a lower spring rate than the 891: 190 lbs./in. vs 210 lbs./in. I had a set of the 891s and got rid of them due to how badly they rode with the weight I carry.

What did you go with? What is the weight that you normally carry?

 

[Zhehan]

What did you go with? What is the weight that you normally carry?

I went with a set of LC80 7.5 wraps + the Tokico Black LC80 shocks. Those rode really high and I needed to carry 100lbs of sandbags to get the ride height and quality I wanted.

I currently have a set of Toytec 9602RC-P combined with the aforementioned Tokico shocks. It's ok. Gets kinda harsh with a load. It may be that the LC80 shocks don't pair well with these coils.

I miss my Downey Off-Road 3" linear rate springs... I had to replace them after well over 100K+ miles and have been disappointed in everything else I've tried since then. Dobinson makes a 2" Linear Rate spring. Haven't tried them. Someone said they rode like the 890s. Haven't tried those either.

Edit: I have a 10" bandpass subwoofer, tools, a recovery kit, compressor and a hi-lift jack in the cargo area. I have a hitch and a 33" spare w/ a stock rear bumper. Amps are under the driver's and rear passenger seat. I modified the area under the rear passenger seat to fit a Class D subwoofer amp.

Take a look at the Perfect Rear Spring thread for more info.

**Rear Coil Spring Discussion - The Perfect 3rd Gen Rear Spring**

 

[phattyduck]

I was only going to consider because when I ride on dirt roads that have those rumble strip like areas the dash sounds like it's going to break, especially considering these cars are pushing 30 years

What tires and pressures are you running? Washboard can often be (mostly) soaked up by softer tires - or going faster or slower...

-Charlie

 

[pluton]

I have had 890's on the rear for about 12 years now. Lumber truck stiff when the truck is empty, but very nice when loaded with ≈500-600 pounds of camping gear. OME shocks from 2013 are still good, but seem kind of crude and unrefined compared to the Bilsteins I had on my previous Toyota truck.