McFinnigan
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Thanks to 3gsdad, I've had a real break through...
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Odometer Fraud 2.0
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McFinnigan
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Just got this back from him:
Listen, i aint no dealer or was acting like a dealer... I helped family and that was it, i dont know who or even care who u talked too, i did nothing wrong. With this being all said I did contact my lawyer and he said if there is any more problems or if this does go to a legal matter that we will do a counter lawsuit against you and your lawyer I already advised my lawyer of everything that went on and he told me I did not commit anything that was illegal so if that's how you want to take it I'll see you in court and you could expect the counter lawsuit
Listen, i aint no dealer or was acting like a dealer... I helped family and that was it, i dont know who or even care who u talked too, i did nothing wrong. With this being all said I did contact my lawyer and he said if there is any more problems or if this does go to a legal matter that we will do a counter lawsuit against you and your lawyer I already advised my lawyer of everything that went on and he told me I did not commit anything that was illegal so if that's how you want to take it I'll see you in court and you could expect the counter lawsuit
SilverRidgeRunner1
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So he is going to counter suit for u simply gathering information that indicates fraud.
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Kryptoroxx
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Unner
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Yeah there's no way. That didn't even sound like something a lawyer would say...
StreetCreeper
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If I sold a vehicle and I knew for a fact that I did nothing wrong—I would not contact a lawyer. I would not even be worried at all. If I was later contacted by the authorities or whoever, I would still not call a lawyer. Only if charges were actualy pressed or I was being sued—would I contact a lawyer.
Now if I was guilty—I would tell my accuser that I am in contact with my lawyer so as to appear as if I'm in a much better position than I really am.
It's like a fight—if I see my opponent smile, I know he is affraid.
I Think this ******* is running out of fresh underware right about now.
Now if I was guilty—I would tell my accuser that I am in contact with my lawyer so as to appear as if I'm in a much better position than I really am.
It's like a fight—if I see my opponent smile, I know he is affraid.
I Think this ******* is running out of fresh underware right about now.
alanflies
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Exactly, He knows that he's in the wrong, and has actually committed multiple crimes...He's $h!tt!ng in his boots right about now.
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more,
Or close the wall up with our English dead!
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility,
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger:
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favored rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect:
Let it pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a gallèd rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swilled with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height! On, on, you noble English,
Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof,
Fathers that like so many Alexanders
Have in these parts from morn till even fought
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument.
Dishonor not your mothers; now attest
That those whom you called fathers did beget you!
Be copy now to men of grosser blood
And teach them how to war! And you, good yeomen,
Whose limbs were made in England, show us here
The mettle of your pasture. Let us swear
That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not,
For there is none of you so mean and base
That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot!
Follow your spirit; and upon this charge
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more,
Or close the wall up with our English dead!
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility,
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger:
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favored rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect:
Let it pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a gallèd rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swilled with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height! On, on, you noble English,
Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof,
Fathers that like so many Alexanders
Have in these parts from morn till even fought
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument.
Dishonor not your mothers; now attest
That those whom you called fathers did beget you!
Be copy now to men of grosser blood
And teach them how to war! And you, good yeomen,
Whose limbs were made in England, show us here
The mettle of your pasture. Let us swear
That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not,
For there is none of you so mean and base
That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot!
Follow your spirit; and upon this charge
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
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McFinnigan
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And the kicker:
First off the 4runner was not in my name so good luck on that, second off ill see ya in court and ill explain myself then. Have a good day
First off the 4runner was not in my name so good luck on that, second off ill see ya in court and ill explain myself then. Have a good day
StreetCreeper
New member
I see the excuse-factory will be running on overtime trying to fulfill his order.
nc-grayson
Member
your best bet is to completely stop personal communication with him now. Any communication from this point forward should be from your attorney only. Then, he might get the picture.
nevada
Senior Member
agreed.
once he gets an official letter from your attorney, his attitude will likely change. as he will then know you are quite serious.
Here is my wife's blog about what happened to us. You can read all about it:
https://goingagainstthegrainmom.wor...ow-how-many-miles-are-really-on-your-vehicle/
https://goingagainstthegrainmom.wor...ow-how-many-miles-are-really-on-your-vehicle/
gamefreakgc
Elite Member
I feel like I'm watching some sort of crime drama reading this thread. Except that it's not and it's actually reality for you.
I know that here in California if you get caught rolling back the odometer you are arrested, period. They don't mess around with that here.
I know that here in California if you get caught rolling back the odometer you are arrested, period. They don't mess around with that here.
scrapper
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Jhelms
New member
I HATE dirt bags like this. Without the blink of an eye I would toss in a few bucks to help with legal fees just to see justice served (understanding that you are not asking for that) Just know you have support!
A crappy story, about a month ago I found a supposed pristine lexus rx I planned to buy for the wife out of state. I also booked a ticket from Az to Cali and flew out to pick it up and drive home. The second I arrived - red flags went off, it was not even the car in the photos! Total mess, salt damage (claimed it had never been out of inland socal). He also claimed to have all dealer records and he had ZERO. Tires were miss-matched (AWD vehicle no no), tons of paint scratches and damage. The only thing that checked out was the car fax! However upon inspection the vehicle vin did not match the carfax vin he provided! And the cherry on top was the car was not even in his name!
After a near brawl with that SOB right there in the driveway (he ran to the back gate of the house... which NO ONE LIVED IN so it was not his home) I just decided to walk away. Grabbed my backpack and hiked it several miles to a gas station and called a cab who met me there and drove me to get a rental car. I cruised around socal and calmed down. Looked at a few other vehicles and decided the day was done - just drive home. Only bad experience I have ever had like that and boy it was one to remember.
A crappy story, about a month ago I found a supposed pristine lexus rx I planned to buy for the wife out of state. I also booked a ticket from Az to Cali and flew out to pick it up and drive home. The second I arrived - red flags went off, it was not even the car in the photos! Total mess, salt damage (claimed it had never been out of inland socal). He also claimed to have all dealer records and he had ZERO. Tires were miss-matched (AWD vehicle no no), tons of paint scratches and damage. The only thing that checked out was the car fax! However upon inspection the vehicle vin did not match the carfax vin he provided! And the cherry on top was the car was not even in his name!
After a near brawl with that SOB right there in the driveway (he ran to the back gate of the house... which NO ONE LIVED IN so it was not his home) I just decided to walk away. Grabbed my backpack and hiked it several miles to a gas station and called a cab who met me there and drove me to get a rental car. I cruised around socal and calmed down. Looked at a few other vehicles and decided the day was done - just drive home. Only bad experience I have ever had like that and boy it was one to remember.
Salman
New member
That's really sucks brother. I had some bad experiences during used car purchases but this one...OMG. I am feeling sad by just thinking about it.
On one incident, I was looking for used accord for Dad. Its long story...In short he reminded me to bring 9K cash on all email conversations or calls. whenever I asked him about VIN he replied me with something else. Don't want to give me his address. Asked me to come somewhere near his home and told me I should call him for direction when reached mentioned place and only late evening times were available for transaction. On final movement...I came to my senses and I decided to call off meeting. I still don't know.. what was his plan.
To OP you are doing good but make sure you and your family life doesn't suffer... some time let it go is better for peace of mind. People like this seller can be millionaire but that money will never bring happiness. Best of Luck.
