Offical 3rd gen BS thread

It's BS when your buddies ask you to drive them up to the mountain to go snowboarding because they don't have a capable car, and then they can't afford their share of gas money, so then the trip gets canceled. Good way to ruin a Sunday.
 
It started off by a member complaining that he had given a vendor on this site a year to make good on a deal they had made whereby he made payment initially. It began under the auspice of him wanting opinions of what to do and the temperature of the thread was in his favor initially. Said temperature quickly reversed on him when members, rightfully concerned about which vendor, began asking him for the vendor's name, which he declined to do. It turned into a 3 or 4 page thread, 2 or 3 pages of which were others calling him out for not helping to protect the rest of us and simply using the thread to strong-arm the vendor. Total BS in my opinion.
 
It started off by a member complaining that he had given a vendor on this site a year to make good on a deal they had made whereby he made payment initially. It began under the auspice of him wanting opinions of what to do and the temperature of the thread was in his favor initially. Said temperature quickly reversed on him when members, rightfully concerned about which vendor, began asking him for the vendor's name, which he declined to do. It turned into a 3 or 4 page thread, 2 or 3 pages of which were others calling him out for not helping to protect the rest of us and simply using the thread to strong-arm the vendor. Total BS in my opinion.

After seeing the way he dealt with that thread, there is DEFINITELY another side to the story. 100%.
 
What's BS is that SDSU does not observe President's Holiday weekend -_____- tests and essays due tomorrow this is BS!!!
 
Springfield XDm or XD or Glock 19? And why?

Glock 19 and XDm are comparably priced. Can get both for under $600 out the door. The XD is considerably less.

Yes, I know I should get a 50 cal, but... I
 
Yeah, first gun. Ammo is cheaper. Although I have thought of getting an .40s&w XDm, if you can convince me...

Bet you didn't see this coming after the other thread. :D
 
Yeah, first gun. Ammo is cheaper. Although I have thought of getting an .40s&w XDm, if you can convince me...

Bet you didn't see this coming after the other thread. :D

What will you use this weapon for? 9mm will suffice for target practice as well as home defense. Ammo will be cheaper than .40 SW. Will this be an carry weapon?
 
I just picked up a Beretta m9 (92fs) last month for my first pistol. Use it mainly for target practice going to the range and home defense. Got it for a good deal and it's been a great fun so far. Very easy to shoot.
 
What will you use this weapon for? 9mm will suffice for target practice as well as home defense. Ammo will be cheaper than .40 SW. Will this be an carry weapon?

Will not be a "carry" weapon. Although I will probably keep it in my car and get another one for the house once I move (Susquehanna County, Pa).

For now just shooting with buddies and staying in the car.

What would you get RIG?
 
Will not be a "carry" weapon. Although I will probably keep it in my car and get another one for the house once I move (Susquehanna County, Pa).

For now just shooting with buddies and staying in the car.

What would you get RIG?

I don't know what kind of neighborhood you live in, however it is terribly irresponsible to have a weapon that you leave in the car. If you're going to take it, wear it. That said, I have just as many friends that are pro-Glock and I have that are pro-Springfield. I read an article recently that made alot of sense given today's manufacturing processes. With the advent of Glock, which their CEO began trial in an extortion case in Atlanta today, firearm manufacturers really had to begin competing on price moreso than they had in the past due to the processes and materials Glock uses. Whereas in the past, you purchased craftsmanship and quality, now you purchase marketing time because the playing field is pretty level nowadays. Go to any Glock forum and you'll read threads of FTF (failure to fire) and other problems, go to any Ruger forum and you'll read threads of mag release and other problems, and go to any S&W forum and you'll read about trigger and other problems. That said, manufacturers have undertaken the business model that with pricing, issues can be dealt with on a one or two off basis if they arise within the warranty periods. It is more rare today than in previous times that a weapon would be fired 10,000 rounds and it is more likely, especially with today's ammo prices, that a weapon will only see a couple thousand rounds at most.

Cliff notes: opinions you hear will range widely, however the reliability of either of those models you proposed will be about the same. I would suggest you go to a firing range or find a buddy that owns one or both of them or where you can rent one and give them a try. See which fits your hand best. See which is most comfortable. Glocks have a tendency to feel narrow to some people (laterally) and Springfields sometimes feel too thick (lineally). That said, I've owned multiple and shot many more Glocks than I have Springfields. Women sometimes have issues with ejection failures with Glocks due to limp wrists. If yours is more on the supple side, you should be fine. :) My current carry weapon is a Walther PPS 9mm. Don't get too caught up in mag size either. Any gun fight requiring more than a couple rounds from your weapon is larger than you should engage in - you need back up at that point.
 
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I don't know what kind of neighborhood you live in, however it is terribly irresponsible to have a weapon that you leave in the car. If you're going to take it, wear it. That said, I have just as many friends that are pro-Glock and I have that are pro-Springfield. I read an article recently that made alot of sense given today's manufacturing processes. With the advent of Glock, which their CEO began trial in an extortion case in Atlanta today, firearm manufacturers really had to begin competing on price moreso than they had in the past due to the processes and materials Glock uses. Whereas in the past, you purchased craftsmanship and quality, now you purchase marketing time because the playing field is pretty level nowadays. Go to any Glock forum and you'll read threads of FTF (failure to fire) and other problems, go to any Ruger forum and you'll read threads of mag release and other problems, and go to any S&W forum and you'll read about trigger and other problems. That said, manufacturers have undertaken the business model that with pricing, issues can be dealt with on a one or two off basis if they arise within the warranty periods. It is more rare today than in previous times that a weapon would be fired 10,000 rounds and it is more likely, especially with today's ammo prices, that a weapon will only see a couple thousand rounds at most.

Cliff notes: opinions you hear will range widely, however the reliability of either of those models you proposed will be about the same. I would suggest you go to a firing range or find a buddy that owns one or both of them or where you can rent one and give them a try. See which fits your hand best. See which is most comfortable. Glocks have a tendency to feel narrow to some people (laterally) and Springfields sometimes feel too thick (lineally). That said, I've owned multiple and shot many more Glocks than I have Springfields. Women sometimes have issues with ejection failures with Glocks due to limp wrists. If yours is more on the supple side, you should be fine. :) My current carry weapon is a Walther PPS 9mm. Don't get too caught up in mag size either. Any gun fight requiring more than a couple rounds from your weapon is larger than you should engage in - you need back up at that point.

Yes, let me clear that up. I wouldn't leave it in the car. However, I am going to be moving to close to the middle of nowhere. It takes the :police: about 20 minutes or so to get there.

Yeah, that has been my findings. The conclusions on which gun are the conclusions on what the meaning of life is. Good luck.

I have shot the 19 and the XDm 9. I liked both guns.

Regarding the magazine, that is why I am going with the 9mm. I don't want to get in the stopping power debate here, but lets be real... if you can't do what you need to do in 16 rounds, chances are the last 3 aren't going to do what you need to do. Now if you live in Cali, 11 rounds may not be enough. :D

Going to go Friday and check out the 19 some more and the XDm. The other thing I have noticed is that gun prices have been going up along with tax season...
 
Yeah, first gun. Ammo is cheaper. Although I have thought of getting an .40s&w XDm, if you can convince me...

Bet you didn't see this coming after the other thread. :D

Ha. Not really.

You can't go wrong with any of them, as I'm sure you know.

I'd just go to a gun range and fire all of them. I'd probably lean towards the XD though.
 
. The other thing I have noticed is that gun prices have been going up along with tax season...

interesting observation. Are there any gin shows in your area you could attend? In my area, prices there are usually $50 to $75 cheaper than retail, however you do have to pay $10 or so to get in the door.

As far as power, if a 9mm can't do what you need it to do, like I said, you need backup. You're not likely gonna be shooting anything further than 15 to 20 feet max anyway and in most threat scenarios, closer than that.
 
I have an XD .40 compact. I love it, I carry it with me everywhere everyday. I would just get the regular xd. Unless you can tell me the features and the differences and understand them and can explain them, between the XD and the XDm (other than looks) they aren't worth the extra $100. And with glock, that extra $100, you are simply paying for a name. Lets face it, at the end of the day any one of them is going to kill someone if you need it to or hit a can 60 yards away to impress your buddies...
 
I went to a strip club last night before my friend and his girlfriend left town. My 4runner was conveniently parked in front of the place so we obviously had to stop in on our way home from the bar. Well anyways we were sitting down at a booth and a stripper was swinging around the pole when all of a sudden the brass pole came dislodged from the ceiling mount and the pole and stripper came crashing down. Mind you this girl was about 10ft in the air spinning around and was nearly thrown off the stage. I kinda felt sorry for her.
 
XDM is the XD on roids. It is their match version. Better barrel, refined trigger, ergos and tighter construction.

Don't listen to anybody about buying a gun. Buy one that fits in your hand the best. You want to be able to pull the gun up and automatically be on target. That said, my HK rocks...

Which model are you buying? Let me know, I will give you the hook up on it. Find a dealer who does cheap transfers. I will inquire about drop shipping a gun to them so you would only have to pay shipping once.

Also, there is a tax savings from buying out of state too.
 
I went to a strip club last night before my friend and his girlfriend left town. My 4runner was conveniently parked in front of the place so we obviously had to stop in on our way home from the bar. Well anyways we were sitting down at a booth and a stripper was swinging around the pole when all of a sudden the brass pole came dislodged from the ceiling mount and the pole and stripper came crashing down. Mind you this girl was about 10ft in the air spinning around and was nearly thrown off the stage. I kinda felt sorry for her.

What's up with watching fatty strippers?
 

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