Oil Change, How Long???

How often do you change your oil?

  • I change the oil every 3,000 miles or eariler.

    Votes: 308 24.2%
  • I change the oil every 5,000 miles, good balance.

    Votes: 691 54.3%
  • I change the oil every 7,500 miles as recommended by the manual.

    Votes: 165 13.0%
  • I change the oil every 10,000 to 15,000, or when ever.

    Votes: 92 7.2%
  • I never change the oil, it's just a communist plot.

    Votes: 17 1.3%

  • Total voters
    1,273
“Sludge” - are we talking about metal particles?

Is the oil pan plug magnetic?

Is there any advantage to a magnet attached to the oil pan?
 
Magnetic drain plug is nice to see what is collecting from dirty oil. I had to get stainless one since my stock plug kept rusting after each cold season.

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Every 5000 approx for me. I do mainly longer journeys and modern oil is excellent. It's not 1950 any more. I have never had to scrap a vehicle due to engine oil related failure.

Some cars here are on 18,000 miles intervals (Which is for fleet manager's benefit, not the 2nd, 3rd, etc owners benefit. But it shows how far oil has come)
 
"I never change the oil, it's just a communist plot" :bounce::bounce::bounce:

That caught me off guard, very good
 
My 2016 Trail has 174,000 miles and has only been changed every 10,000 per manufacture guidelines.
Runs like new and does not burn oil.

I have ordered a new 2022 TRD OFF Road and will do the same interval oil change
 
I still do every 6k miles. I know its not "necessary", but oil is the life of a car. For what it costs and how infrequent its needed, I think its well worth the trade off.
 
Every two year and infrequent use oil change analysis

Quoting Indiana Jones: "It's not the years, honey. It's the mileage."
I hope to help infrequent/short trip vehicle owners users to save some money.
I've attached a Blackstone analysis of a 2 year/5000 mile oil change.
Oil type: Normal Mobil 1 5W-30 with the recommended dosage of Liqui-Moly Mo-SO additive to minimize wear from weekly cold starts, (I live in central New England). Note: I have not noticed any increase of mileage with this additive, however the wear metals detected may have been decreased.
The OEM cellulose filter was changed at 3217 miles after the oil change. Easy for 4th gen V6 4runner! If synthetic media, that might not be required.
Blackstone comments refer to my 20 miles weekly trip to buy groceries and rare recreational trips concerns. I'm retired.
I'm not promoting Mobil 1...I.m sure any top tier synthetic oil would do.
Also not recommended for the people who beat on their vehicles. I baby my 4runner, except for an occasional "Italian tune-up".
 

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A bit off topic but is it possible to use the shorter 9972 FRAM filter from the other main stream Toyota's on a 5th gen 4runner? Specs seems the same except it's a shorter stack.
 
Have a synthetic oil question

I have a 2009 SR5 6 cyl with 225K miles. 1) I’ve always used conventional oil for engine oil change, trans case change, and diffs. Should I continue with these conventionals or switch to synthetic. Vehicle is in great shape and no major issues. Would like to continue with conventionals but was curious about switching to synthetics. Thanks in advance for any advice out there.
 
The Fram oil filters I use say good for 10,000 miles. Usually I change oil and oil filter every 3-4k (~275k miles on '97). Would Fram suggest two oil changes per oil filter change?
 
The Fram oil filters I use say good for 10,000 miles. Usually I change oil and oil filter every 3-4k (~275k miles on '97). Would Fram suggest two oil changes per oil filter change?

NO !!!!!!!

Change the filter every time you change the oil.
Don't believe that marketing BS.

The oil and the filter work together, why would you just replace 1/2 of a system.
 
Quoting Indiana Jones: "It's not the years, honey. It's the mileage."
I hope to help infrequent/short trip vehicle owners users to save some money.
I've attached a Blackstone analysis of a 2 year/5000 mile oil change.
Oil type: Normal Mobil 1 5W-30 with the recommended dosage of Liqui-Moly Mo-SO additive to minimize wear from weekly cold starts, (I live in central New England). Note: I have not noticed any increase of mileage with this additive, however the wear metals detected may have been decreased.
The OEM cellulose filter was changed at 3217 miles after the oil change. Easy for 4th gen V6 4runner! If synthetic media, that might not be required.
Blackstone comments refer to my 20 miles weekly trip to buy groceries and rare recreational trips concerns. I'm retired.
I'm not promoting Mobil 1...I.m sure any top tier synthetic oil would do.
Also not recommended for the people who beat on their vehicles. I baby my 4runner, except for an occasional "Italian tune-up".

I really appreciate you, and others, posting your Blackstone reports. For the uneducated, like me, they give at least some insight into the mysterious realm of oils and oil change intervals. In general, the reports seems to indicate that longer intervals (in both mileage and time) can be perfectly reasonable.
 

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