Ok, Which Spacer Kit and Why?

Which Spacer Kit

  • 2"/1" Cornfed

    Votes: 24 30.4%
  • 3"/2" Cornfed

    Votes: 20 25.3%
  • 2.5"/1.5" Daystar

    Votes: 18 22.8%
  • Other (plz explain)

    Votes: 7 8.9%
  • Noooo! Don't Lift!!!

    Votes: 10 12.7%

  • Total voters
    79

keylay31

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I'm in a crossroads:
Which spacer kit should I install

  • 2"/1" Cornfed
  • 3"/2" Cornfed
  • 2.5"/1.5" Daystar
  • Something else

I'm thinking the smaller lift will be better on the suspension long term. My dad thinks the 3"/2" will look better and help with long term sag. And J.A. (my T4R hero) thinks DS is better. (BTW, what are bump stops and why does CF get rid of them?)

I've read all the threads several times through, its you're chance to sell your point. Please tell me why, not just which one.

I'd appreciate it if J.A. and JasonB chime in. I'm looking for both the looks aspect and technical aspects. THANKS! :bigok:
 
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keylay31 said:
Great question.
I am lifting for cosmetic reasons.

Then go cornfed 2/1. I like the machined aluminum, and all the feedback from Burtman customers has been positive. The 2/1 will give you the "lifted look" that you would not obtain with a leveling kit. Plus, it will not make your stock tires look like donuts. It will also preserve the handling more than the taller spacers.

Bumpstops are the rubber "cones" inside the rear springs, they can also mount to the frame.

bump_stops.jpg


They contact the axle only at compression. I was not aware that the cornfed eschewed them on installation. I believe daystar offers an alternative bumpstop, which provides a more progressive cushion than stock. Since this is a cosmetic lift, there is no need to change them.

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just saw he nooo don't lift option. you should get some 22's, neon lights and post up in the pimp zone... j/k
 
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I voted for the 2/1 Cornfed but would actually go with something different.

I currently have a 1/1 Cornfed and love it. However, if & when I get another 4Runner, I'm going with a 1 1/2" front & 1" rear Cornfed spacers.

I still want a slight rake to my truck & I think the 2/1 levels it out just a bit too much.
 
keylay31 said:
I think JA was suggesting that they are incompatible with CF.

But I want to get back to original question.

The factory "inside the coil" bumpstops fit inside the DS spacer. CF's spacer does not have a hole in the center, hence the factory "inside the coil" bumpstops cannot be used. You can still use the regular bumpstops (leftmost pic above) with CF of course.
 
I voted for the Daystar 2.5/1.5 for all the reasons mentioned in numerous other threads. I will consolidate that info here and add this opinion in my lift write-up.

Things I considered when evaluating which lift to get, prioritized with my highest concerns at the top.
  • Xreas compatability
  • Allocation of overall spacer height between "preload" and "topout" spacers
  • Size
  • Material
  • Compatability with factory inside the coil bumpstops
  • Color
  • Price

Xreas compatability - my preference was to retain XREAS, hence a spacer lift. Though spacer type lifts are much cheaper than coilover technology, price was not a deciding factor here. I Simply wanted to retain the XREAS system. I go off-road on occasion, but on-road performance was a higher priority.

Allocation - Front spacer technology can be all topout, all preload or some combination of both. Preload affects the spring rate, more preload equals a stiffer ride. Topout spacers put the strut assembly lower than the factory designed it to be, thereby creating the possibility of overextension especially with ball joints. While I wanted a kit with a combination of topout and preload, I wanted the preload to be smaller than the topout spacer as I wanted to minimize the change in ride harshness. The DS kit includes a 0.5" preload and a 1" topout spacer (due to suspension geometry you need to double the spacer size to determine lift height and yes the DS kit gave me closer to 3" than 2.5" of front lift). The 1" topout does not concern me. There are kits with all topout spacing and while they are much easier to install as they do not require the use of a spring compressor, the possibility of overextending components would concern me. On the other hand these all topout kits would not have an increase in spring rate though. If the 1" topout spacer sizing concerns you, a CF 3/2 kit reverses the DS allocation methodology and uses what appears to be an approx 1" preload spacer and a 0.5" topout.

Size - 2.5/1.5 fit my needs perfectly. The stance turned out to be perfect. Personally I wouldn't mind the the rear being a half to one inch higher as long term 4R's in general tend to sag a little regardless of adding a spacer. With a CF kit you can custom order any size you want, but since you cannot use the factory rear bumpstop I choose against it.

Material - Polyurethane was my choice here. I have heard from some people who needed to use rubber isolaters when using a aluminum spacer to reduce noise or something along those lines. Didnt want to be bothered with corrosion either.

Compatability with factory inside the coil rear bumpstops - DS is compatable, CF is not.

Color - DS is black poly, no need to paint (and subsequently re-paint and re-paint later on). Didn't want the spacer to stick out, but rather to blend in and be unobtrusive.

Price - The DS kit at approx $265 is a fair value. Similar in price if not lower than many other lifting options out there. Install it yourself or you will spend more getting it installed that the kit costs.
 
Damn you J.A., and here I was almost settled on the 2/1 CF and you had to bring up the material and bumpstops. haha :bash: "I have heard from some people who needed to use rubber isolaters when using a aluminum spacer to reduce noise or something along those lines." Worries me.
 
Just as an update, I have decided that I want a 2/1 lift, mostly because its cosmetic and I dont want to change the stock feel nor risk too much long term suspension damage.

Some questions I have for you guys:

Quotes from J.A.:
Material - Polyurethane was my choice here. I have heard from some people who needed to use rubber isolaters when using a aluminum spacer to reduce noise or something along those lines. Didnt want to be bothered with corrosion either.

Compatability with factory inside the coil rear bumpstops - DS is compatable, CF is not.

Anyone had any issues with the noise or corrosion? Anyone had any problems with not being able to use the bumpstops?
 
My 1" leveling spacer is all that I need, and all that I'll ever have on my 4Runner.

A trail rig it's not, but I love the look of getting rid of the squashed down front end, and the extra inch of ground clearance up front is definitely a plus.

IMO, the rear is high enough already for my purposes.
 
me too...

rook said:
Are you lifting for cosmetic or functional reasons ?

Hi, i have the 3rd Gen Runner, and i was thinking to get 3/2. Do you think it will make my 16' look like donuts. Coz mine is also for Cosmetic reasons that i want to lift it. I just want it to look proportional and suspension friendly, and be able to go and stop properly in long run?? thnx in advance
 
Even Steven said:
and the extra inch of ground clearance up front is definitely a plus.

not to rain on your parade friend, but you did NOT gain any ground clearance with your leveling kit. nor did I with my OME.

what you are gaining, or hoping to is wheel travel. A stock t4r and a t4r with an OME or Ds or CF setup are all the same BASICALLY (in a clearance sense) , they all offer you more wheel/tire travel with the same amt of ground clearance.

Personally I think its foolish to get a spacer kit for $200+ when a new susp. consistiing of NEW shocks and springs is an option for $700+/-.
However, for he who just wants the LOOK of offroad, then spacers are great.

$0.02
 
T?@\7 said:
not to rain on your parade friend, but you did NOT gain any ground clearance with your leveling kit. nor did I with my OME.
$0.02

If he upgraded the tires to a larger than stock size, he did gain minimal ground clearance. The engine and vital components with the spacer/spring lifts is higher than stock, but the diffs are the same height (unless you upgrade tire sizes).
 
Even Steven said:
My 1" leveling spacer is all that I need, and all that I'll ever have on my 4Runner.

A trail rig it's not, but I love the look of getting rid of the squashed down front end, and the extra inch of ground clearance up front is definitely a plus.

IMO, the rear is high enough already for my purposes.

Do you go off road at all ?
 
This is my first post and am interested in the CF 1" leveling kit. I will not be going offroad on any kind of trails, I just want a more level look. I debated back and forth between the 2/1 lift and 1" leveling kits and I think I have decided on the leveling. Who here has these two kits? I have read that the ride doesn't change but is there any noise from the aluminum spacers?

I am also going to get a Westin bull bar. Which lift will look better with that? I don't want to go too high because this is my wifes daily driver and she has final say so!!
 
wifesrunner said:
This is my first post and am interested in the CF 1" leveling kit. I will not be going offroad on any kind of trails, I just want a more level look. I debated back and forth between the 2/1 lift and 1" leveling kits and I think I have decided on the leveling. Who here has these two kits? I have read that the ride doesn't change but is there any noise from the aluminum spacers?

I am also going to get a Westin bull bar. Which lift will look better with that? I don't want to go too high because this is my wifes daily driver and she has final say so!!

I have one , but never installed it yet , its a good leveling option. Do a search for leveling kit or for Even Steven who has one on his truck . Looks nice IMO .
 
welcome aboard wifesrunner, its good to see another nc runner so close to home. I have wanted a 2/1 cornfed also but would love to see Even Steven's runner before I decide. I like the idea of just the 1in, because the only real 4 wheeling I do is on the coast where height is not that big of a issue.
 

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