On Board Air, Which route?

[BlackWorksInc]

I'm just curious why more people just don't set it up like they do in shops?

I would think a decent sized Air Tank combined with a near or 100% duty cycle compressor on a pressure switch to top off the tank and/or provide air if consumption is too great would be the ideal compromise?

 

[bmecler]

I'm just curious why more people just don't set it up like they do in shops?

I would think a decent sized Air Tank combined with a near or 100% duty cycle compressor on a pressure switch to top off the tank and/or provide air if consumption is too great would be the ideal compromise?

I have installed several air suspensions on cars and this is the setup that comes to mind to me as well...

A 5 gallon tank rated at 150PSI would get almost 4 tires filled up to 35-40PSI off one tank -- I think.

 

[4Roamer]

I just installed the ARB single compressor.
https://www.amazon.com/ARB-CKMA12-A...qid=1481323421&sr=8-1&keywords=arb+compressor

On this bracket.
Slee - Compressed Air Products

I don't have any reviews yet, but the mount is solid. No drilling, about an hour to install.

 

[MisplacedTexan]

I ended up doing the ARB single with tank on Bandi's mount. I'm EXTREMELY glad I put it under the hood instead off in the back like you were talking about. I took a few panels out back there and had the "OH, it'll fit!" idea myself, but now that it's under the hood, and I've used it, I wouldn't want that racket running in the cabin with me. It's still plenty loud when running in the engine compartment.

I've seen two trucks on here (can't remember who) that put the Viair pumps up by the power steering reservoir when they hard mounted it. Fit in there pretty well it seemed.

Only thing is, if I were going to do it all over again, I would probably skip the 1 gallon tank I have now and find a place to put a 2.5 gallon tank.

 

[jrandom]

Only thing is, if I were going to do it all over again, I would probably skip the 1 gallon tank I have now and find a place to put a 2.5 gallon tank.

I have been thinking about this for ages, I have had my ARB dual for a couple of years now, hands down you need a tank, even a 1 gallon is better than nothing.

I can't find a decent location, baring the spare tire location or a custom tank, large enough for a 2.0-2.5 tank (or two) I'd do it in an instant if I had a aftermarket rear bumper to carry the spare.

The only idea I have come up with is to daisy chain two or three one gallon tanks. One under the compressor and there is plenty of room in the front left or right behind the turn/fogs if you are running a stock front bumper.

 

[Vinsil]

Had three arb compressors on my last three rigs, but ONLY used them for the lockers and didn't have the newer dual tank ones so can't comment on those, however had co2 tanks and in fact used my buddies today to air up today.

Had powertanks and they are nice but $$$. I'll build a ten pounder for my new runner and have never had a safety valve blow and always had it secured with a power tank bracket for safety. Can't beat the reliable service, no electrical draw and the ability to have mobile air to take out at camp or down the trail.


But the electric pumps keep catching my eye due to size......

 

[MisplacedTexan]

The only idea I have come up with is to daisy chain two or three one gallon tanks. One under the compressor and there is plenty of room in the front left or right behind the turn/fogs if you are running a stock front bumper.

Yea, space would be an issue, but I'm pretty sure I could find room for it towards the back underneath, or maybe even just put it up in the cab in the back area.

 

[Jetboy]

Does anyone know anything about mounting a york compressor on the 4.0? Would a bracket from an FJ or a Tacoma work? Do those even exist?

I think physically it would be really hard to squeeze in there. I have one on my FJ40 and had one on my previous minitruck. But on these I'm not sure there's an easy way to make one work. I think you'd be better off with a denso style A/C compressor and an oil recirculator system just for size reasons. I've also done that style system. It works great so long as you keep the oil system operating properly - namely setup your oil separator above the oil mixer on the intake with a valve to drain in oil back to the intake. I used a manual valve. Today - I'd for sure use an electric solenoid that would automatically drain back down.

The York is super nice to have for things like seating beads and running air tools, but it's a bit much for airing up tires. My FJ40 cycles about 50% of the time because of the valve stem orifice restriction. It's more than you can flow through a single valve stem, so it's kinda overkill unless you drill a second valve stem for each wheel or fill multiple tires at once.

I use an electric compressor in a bag I store in the back. It's plenty fast for 285's.

 

[jrandom]

Yea, space would be an issue, but I'm pretty sure I could find room for it towards the back underneath,...

Seriously, apart from what I mentioned earlier, there is no room for an average size 2.0+ gallon tank underneath, but hey if you find a spot let me know, I'd be curious to see what you come up with

 

[Jetboy]

On my 3rd gen I built a different style of low profile slider where I used 2x3 square tube. I intended to use both sliders as air tanks, but never got around to doing it. They could pretty easily be fabbed for the 5th gen with even larger size like 2x4 tubing. It would have decent volume and not take up any additional space. An 8 foot length of 2x3 square tube has the equivalent of about 2 gallons of interior volume. So with 2 sliders you'd have around a 4 gallon tank.

 

[jrandom]

Slick Reminds me of old school tube bumpers, you could get voluminous amounts of air in them.

Apart from a custom setup there is really limited space available in a 5th gen, it is kind of shocking for a truck this size. I didn't do much crawling around under my 3rd gen, but man my old 89' pickup could house a small weapons factory underneath.

 

[nevada]

I think physically it would be really hard to squeeze in there. I have one on my FJ40 and had one on my previous minitruck. But on these I'm not sure there's an easy way to make one work. I think you'd be better off with a denso style A/C compressor and an oil recirculator system just for size reasons. I've also done that style system. It works great so long as you keep the oil system operating properly - namely setup your oil separator above the oil mixer on the intake with a valve to drain in oil back to the intake. I used a manual valve. Today - I'd for sure use an electric solenoid that would automatically drain back down.

The York is super nice to have for things like seating beads and running air tools, but it's a bit much for airing up tires. My FJ40 cycles about 50% of the time because of the valve stem orifice restriction. It's more than you can flow through a single valve stem, so it's kinda overkill unless you drill a second valve stem for each wheel or fill multiple tires at once.

I use an electric compressor in a bag I store in the back. It's plenty fast for 285's.

for my York equipped truck, I do just that. I built a special line, with 2 coiled hoses, and a T fitting, so I can do 2 tires at a time.

im pretty sure I have the CFM to do 4, but keeping track of the pressures on 4 tires at the same time could be tough. I think it would be easy to overinflated the last tire by the time I got to it. 2 works great though.

 

[rtinniste]

stumbled across this even tho its on the heep forum its good info and can save a decent chunk of change

Build Your Own CO2 Tank System – High Quality & Lowest Cost - JeepForum.com

 

[KingTaco]

Hi all, I've been looking for someone who has either installed a compressor in the back, or run a line to a disconnect in the rear cargo area. I may air up/down tires once a month, but I bike several times a week, and would love to have on demand air to meet those needs as well, instead of carrying a floor pump around all the time. Like [MENTION=47340]Titanpat57[/MENTION] earlier in this thread, I also prefer not to have a tank inside. Obviously, the air demand for bike tires is nothing compared to a 275/70/17, but I'd still like to be able to get a KO2 from 24 to 34 without waiting 5 minutes per tire. Can anyone provide some guidance on rear mounting locations, or systems that they've bought/used? Reliability is more important than capacity to me.
Thanks!

 

[Jhalko]

Hi all, I've been looking for someone who has either installed a compressor in the back, or run a line to a disconnect in the rear cargo area. I may air up/down tires once a month, but I bike several times a week, and would love to have on demand air to meet those needs as well, instead of carrying a floor pump around all the time. Like [MENTION=47340]Titanpat57[/MENTION] earlier in this thread, I also prefer not to have a tank inside. Obviously, the air demand for bike tires is nothing compared to a 275/70/17, but I'd still like to be able to get a KO2 from 24 to 34 without waiting 5 minutes per tire. Can anyone provide some guidance on rear mounting locations, or systems that they've bought/used? Reliability is more important than capacity to me.
Thanks!

Check out how [MENTION=68685]Ducmonsta[/MENTION] mounted in the back of his truck, scroll near bottom of this link...
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/100058-ducmonstas-build-thread-very-pic-heavy-33.html

 

[KingTaco]

Thanks [MENTION=91899]Jhalko[/MENTION] !

[MENTION=68685]Ducmonsta[/MENTION] beautiful job on the compressor install. Anything you would change, now that you've been living with it for a while?

 

[RiDE]

Here's what I've done with my setup. Bandi Compressor/tank/manifold mount with the ARB Dual compressor, Viar 1g tank and ARB Manifold for the rear ARB locker. We also ran a line from the tank to the front bumper where the air chuck is to connect the hose and inflator. No need to open the hood when inflating. It's been working out perfectly.

 

[nb rob]

Here's what I've done with my setup. Bandi Compressor/tank/manifold mount with the ARB Dual compressor, Viar 1g tank and ARB Manifold for the rear ARB locker. We also ran a line from the tank to the front bumper where the air chuck is to connect the hose and inflator. No need to open the hood when inflating. It's been working out perfectly.

wow that's nice!!!

great job

 

[LawnDart]

Here's what I've done with my setup. Bandi Compressor/tank/manifold mount with the ARB Dual compressor, Viar 1g tank and ARB Manifold for the rear ARB locker. We also ran a line from the tank to the front bumper where the air chuck is to connect the hose and inflator. No need to open the hood when inflating. It's been working out perfectly.

The need for a tank isn't there for me, but I really want to relocate my chuck like this.

 

[KingTaco]

[MENTION=78318]RiDE[/MENTION] wow, that's nice. Can't imagine it would be too difficult to run it through the back of the truck. I'll search for info about mounting compressor there, thanks.

I don't think I would need the tank if I'm only airing tires, right?