on board air

slowpoke99

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just wondering what others are using for their on board air setups and how well they perform. i have a york sitting in my shop but i don't know if i want to go through the headache of fabbing up a mount and rearranging everything in my engine compartment to make it fit. PNWFab use to make a mounting kit for the 3.4 but i'm hearing that they don't anymore so i'm considering other options.
 
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just wondering what others are using for their on board air setups and how well they perform. i have a york sitting in my shop but i don't know if i want to go through the headache of fabbing up a mount and rearranging everything in my engine compartment to make it fit. PNWFab use to make a mounting kit for the 3.4 but i'm hearing that they don't anymore so i'm considering other options.

ARB Twin compressor + ARB air locker manifold + ARB 1 ga. Air tank.

It performs really well. I can pump up 4 tires in about 5-15 minutes (total time) depending on the size of the tire and how much air it needs.


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just wondering what others are using for their on board air setups and how well they perform. i have a york sitting in my shop but i don't know if i want to go through the headache of fabbing up a mount and rearranging everything in my engine compartment to make it fit. PNWFab use to make a mounting kit for the 3.4 but i'm hearing that they don't anymore so i'm considering other options.

Have you looked into VIAIR?

VIAIR Corporation - Constant Duty OBA Part No. 10007

VIAIR Compressor ? Onboard Air Systems - VIAIR Compressor from 4 Wheel Parts | VIAIR Compressor
 
I run 2 Viair 400 compressors, they work well. A little over a minute to fill from 16 to 38 psi on a 285/70/17 tire.

I chose the 400 model because it has the highest output at 2.54cfm. While it is only rated for a 33% duty cycle, even when I was only running a single 400, I never hit thermal shut off, even when filling my own tires and someone else's who didn't have OBA.
 
Thanks for the replies! I'm actually leaning towards the viair system. I just don't know anyone who has any real world experience with it who could give me any feedback on it or any other unit for that matter. Everyone I know is running yorks or powertanks. I have a powertank in my '88 but as we all know, being all 4runner owners, cargo space is kinda precious to us (especially with kids in the back seat) so I don't wanna waste any of it with a powertank. I like the ARB but they're $$$!

Any others I should consider before I pull the trigger on a viair???
 
Since you have the York and have already thought about making a mount I'd go that route. I have a York 210 on my '99 4Runner and couldn't imagine wheeling without it. It by far out performs any electric compressor, except the Oasis which uses a York, and is hard mounted under the hood so it's always there.

I have a 5 speed which requires moving things a little more than if I had an auto but it was easy and no real hassle. I have the PNW bracket and snatched it up in the short time it was on the market. At the time I didn't have a welder and work space was limited.

Here is my write up: Click

Anyways, pictures.

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I'm looking into something a bit beefier for my on-board air setup when I get around to it. I'm looking at the ExtremeAire Magnum as it puts out a lot more air at close to 100psi; enough to run my Snap-On impact gun; though I'll probably get a couple 2 gallon tanks or so to have reserve capacity. Basically need my on-board air to operate some light duty air tools (air ratchets, impacts, nailgun maybe, ect) as well as fill tires and such. Mostly because I tend to help friends out a lot and its much easier to load some tools from work in the truck and use the truck as my air source since I'm building it that way than spend extra on a compressor I will rarely use... that and I like to over engineer things. :D
 
Thanks for the replies! I'm actually leaning towards the viair system. I just don't know anyone who has any real world experience with it who could give me any feedback on it or any other unit for that matter. Everyone I know is running yorks or powertanks. I have a powertank in my '88 but as we all know, being all 4runner owners, cargo space is kinda precious to us (especially with kids in the back seat) so I don't wanna waste any of it with a powertank. I like the ARB but they're $$$!

Any others I should consider before I pull the trigger on a viair???

I ran the VIAIR and didn't like it. It looks good on paper but the ARB twin blows it away, literally. I also ran a power tank. I've you've got lots of spare time on your hands go with the VIAIR. If you want to get onto the next best thing, then go with the ARB twin. The single compressor is good if you are only running lockers, but its no good for filling anything more than bicycle tires.
 
Since you have the York and have already thought about making a mount I'd go that route. I have a York 210 on my '99 4Runner and couldn't imagine wheeling without it. It by far out performs any electric compressor, except the Oasis which uses a York, and is hard mounted under the hood so it's always there.

I have a 5 speed which requires moving things a little more than if I had an auto but it was easy and no real hassle. I have the PNW bracket and snatched it up in the short time it was on the market. At the time I didn't have a welder and work space was limited.

Here is my write up: Click

Anyways, pictures.

DSC06347.jpg


DSC06338.jpg


DSC06349.jpg


DSC06365.jpg

very nice setup!!! yeah you're one of the lucky ones who got their hands on the pnw mount while it was available. i had a shot at one a long time ago but at the time i was wheeling my '88/22re in which i already had a york mounted so i never got it. i know from experience that it's a workhorse compared to all the others. i'm just in a pinch right now trying to get my junk on the road/trail. it's not that i'm rushing or anything. i'm just considering other options before i decide to put in the time and fab work. i like both the viair and arb twin units also. now if i can only make up my mind!!! this could take a while!

slowpoke.(get it?:D)
 
I ran the VIAIR and didn't like it. It looks good on paper but the ARB twin blows it away, literally. I also ran a power tank. I've you've got lots of spare time on your hands go with the VIAIR. If you want to get onto the next best thing, then go with the ARB twin. The single compressor is good if you are only running lockers, but its no good for filling anything more than bicycle tires.
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This.

My current, dual viair setup puts out about the same CFMs as the ARB twin compressor, but without the 100% duty cycle, and I have spent more money than the ARB twin costs, using a lot more room, and have a lot more points of failure. If I could go back in time, I would save myself a lot of money, time, and aggravation and get the ARB twin compressor.
 
I'm looking into something a bit beefier for my on-board air setup when I get around to it. I'm looking at the ExtremeAire Magnum as it puts out a lot more air at close to 100psi; enough to run my Snap-On impact gun; though I'll probably get a couple 2 gallon tanks or so to have reserve capacity. Basically need my on-board air to operate some light duty air tools (air ratchets, impacts, nailgun maybe, ect) as well as fill tires and such. Mostly because I tend to help friends out a lot and its much easier to load some tools from work in the truck and use the truck as my air source since I'm building it that way than spend extra on a compressor I will rarely use... that and I like to over engineer things. :D

Are you planning to put up some crown molding while you're out on the trail? :p
 
Are you planning to put up some crown molding while you're out on the trail? :p

Well, you know how it is... You're out in the mountains and you're like "DUDE! That tree looks HUGE we should totally make that our home away from home!" and the guy next to you is like, "I just so happen to have 2x4"s, some joists, and structrual lumber in the back but I forgot my nailgun and drill at home!"

:thumb:
 
10# CO2 tank.

One fill lasts quite a while with the Runner (since I'm not airing down to rock crawl pressures). When I used it with the XJ (35's & rock crawling), it would get me about 3 to 4 fill ups from around 10-12 psi to street pressure of 30.

I've got a 150 psi regulator on it and it fills VERY quick. Nice thing is I can carry it to other vehicles on the trail to help them out...or can swap it vehicle to vehicle depending on what I drive.

Refills around here run about $12-$15.
 
I"m running the ARB CKMA12 (the single) mostly for running my lockers but I plumbed it to accept a line to refill tires. I aired down a tire to 15 lbs and tested how long it wouuld take to fill back up. I didn't write down the time but I remember it was much faster than expected. I mounted it on my Pass side under the hood.

I can always add an additional take somewhere If I needed more air. The CKMTA12 (twin) is nice but it's BIG and kinda pricey IMHO.
 
I'd like a hardwire kit for less than $200 for the occasional fill up for tires. Any suggestions, otherwise I was looking at portable kits like the one below:

Q Industries MV50 SuperFlow High-Volume 12-Volt Air Compressor : Amazon.com : Automotive

Ideally, I'd like something built into the engine bay...I just don't want to spend over $200.
Don't waste your time and money on the MV-50 - I made that mistake. Check Amazon for Viair 400P (portable - carry bag, battery clamps) 400H (for permanent mount)
 
I know it's not technically 'onboard air' but I keep a plug-in compressor in my car. The cable's long enough to reach any of the 4 tires and it'll inflate just about anything. $15 on woot.com several months ago :beer:
 

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