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I checked in with a banking relative and she said that while the backoffice processing for ACH is different from a debit card transaction, the protected dispute period is the same 60 days from the original transaction. If you are still within that window, you should be able to get the full amount refunded.

If you are beyond the 60 day period, it's really up to your individual banks about how accommodating they want / can be.

Best of luck everyone.
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Okki would be correct for ACH... but a debit card that bears the Visa or MasterCard logo, the card brand rules apply since that is technically the "network" used for the electronic transfer of funds, as opposed to handing cash over the counter..
 
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If that was a jab at lawndart, that makes absolutely zero sense, as the FCS dipshits are exactly that... "Instagram experts" at nothing more than getting likes. They've shown how terrible of human beings they really are, what's your hold up toots?



So what qualifies LawnDart over FCS? Those guys are career/retired Special Forces to include time served in Pakistan working with the CIA. If they are “Fieldcrap”, I just wanna know, how so? It seems to me that there are guys on this forum that love to pose as “subject matter experts” and push certain people, but then try to excuse themselves when it goes sideways. Yet, they have shit to say about other people and their companies. So in light of what just happened with Pelfreybilt, if we all need to know something about “Fieldcrap”, speak the F*** up.


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So what qualifies LawnDart over FCS? Those guys are career/retired Special Forces to include time served in Pakistan working with the CIA. If they are “Fieldcrap”, I just wanna know, how so? It seems to me that there are guys on this forum that love to pose as “subject matter experts” and push certain people, but then try to excuse themselves when it goes sideways. Yet, they have shit to say about other people and their companies. So in light of what just happened with Pelfreybilt, if we all need to know something about “Fieldcrap”, speak the F*** up.


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This was all I needed to know about them. I dont give a shit about their background.
 

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LMAO It doesnt even matter. Stop trolling and go back to your cave, this thread was about Pelfrey, not your personal feelings about FCS
 
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LMAO It doesnt even matter. Stop trolling and go back to your cave, this thread was about Pelfrey, not your personal feelings about FCS



It does matter if you want to justly discredit FCS. If you have a legitimate reason, then I wanna know. However, the last two comments of a conversation won’t do it for me. That’s a perfect example of what I mean in regards to who we listen to on this forum. You are right, this is about Pelfrey and we all need to learn to be very careful about who we listen to. Best of luck to those effected by this bad situation.


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It does matter if you want to justly discredit FCS. If you have a legitimate reason, then I wanna know. However, the last two comments of a conversation won’t do it for me. That’s a perfect example of what I mean in regards to who we listen to on this forum. You are right, this is about Pelfrey and we all need to learn to be very careful about who we listen to. Best of luck to those effected by this bad situation.


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I was polite, provided a succinct remark of all they were doing wrong and I was met with hostility. I am sure they are great at killing people/things, survival, whatever, their communication skills however, they should take their own advice and learn some.
 
It does matter if you want to justly discredit FCS. If you have a legitimate reason, then I wanna know. However, the last two comments of a conversation won’t do it for me. That’s a perfect example of what I mean in regards to who we listen to on this forum. You are right, this is about Pelfrey and we all need to learn to be very careful about who we listen to. Best of luck to those effected by this bad situation.


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Yes be very careful who you listen to and who you trust. They always gave me an unimpressed feeling on multiple levels.

I have not read the entire thread but I did see some crazy response full of excuses which appeared to bring politics into the picture and blame the economy. That particular post was mind blowing to me. If nothing else, it made me realize just how incredibly different all of our brains are wired.

Hard earned money was stolen and there are no excuses for that.
 
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Can anyone who understand how to use Pacer help me out? I subscribed and I have the case number, however, I can get no results. Is there something I am not doing correctly?

Thanks in advance for any help
 
Can anyone who understand how to use Pacer help me out? I subscribed and I have the case number, however, I can get no results. Is there something I am not doing correctly?

Thanks in advance for any help

What specific information are you looking for? Because what’s been posted here and on tacoma world is all the info gleamed from the court filings. Otherwise don’t waste any more information as no more information exists via pacer until the Pelfrey’s file further documents.
 
What specific information are you looking for? Because what’s been posted here and on tacoma world is all the info gleamed from the court filings. Otherwise don’t waste any more information as no more information exists via pacer until the Pelfrey’s file further documents.

The entire list of creditors is not posted. I wanted to obtain that list
I have read through everything here and the vast majority of what was posted on TW also
 
The entire list of creditors is not posted. I wanted to obtain that list
I have read through everything here and the vast majority of what was posted on TW also

It’s not posted because it contains names and addresses (considered PII). If you’re looking for a creditor listed on the filing hit myself or [MENTION=118909]MTgirl[/MENTION] up. We are both mod’s on TW and have access to the filing
 
It’s not posted because it contains names and addresses (considered PII). If you’re looking for a creditor listed on the filing hit myself or [MENTION=118909]MTgirl[/MENTION] up. We are both mod’s on TW and have access to the filing

Came here to say the exact same thing. I applaud the moderators over there who are trying to control an absolute circus, but at the same time protect people's interests and personal information.

I didn't sleep any of sat-to-sun evening (not looking for sympathy) staying up trying to answer questions and direct people to information on moving forward on trying to reclaim money.

The amount of betrayal I feel about what has happened, sucks beyond words because it's not about me, it's about a lot of people who will endure a ton of stress about this. There's not much I can add information wise, but whatever I can do regarding making sure people have the information they need, I will stick around do help.
 
Came here to say the exact same thing. I applaud the moderators over there who are trying to control an absolute circus, but at the same time protect people's interests and personal information.

I didn't sleep any of sat-to-sun evening (not looking for sympathy) staying up trying to answer questions and direct people to information on moving forward on trying to reclaim money.

The amount of betrayal I feel about what has happened, sucks beyond words because it's not about me, it's about a lot of people who will endure a ton of stress about this. There's not much I can add information wise, but whatever I can do regarding making sure people have the information they need, I will stick around do help.

I feel horrible for everyone involved. I also don't believe that what occurred was malicious and what happened is a case of a mismanaged business. The attempt to find backing came too late to save the business and the name they had built. At one point something had to have happened for them to take a look at their books and once they did, they realized the gravity of the situation. They also did not do themselves any favors when they were trying to secure the future of their business by going silent with comms (presumably due to negotiations, NDA's and lawyers) and a cryptic social media post about their "trouble". Once customers started getting concerned and starting disputes it went downhill from there. I don't have any ties to the Pelfrey's. I don't know them and I've never bought anything from them so I'm not speaking as one of their friends, just as someone who is looking at the situation objectively.
 
I feel horrible for everyone involved. I also don't believe that what occurred was malicious and what happened is a case of a mismanaged business. The attempt to find backing came too late to save the business and the name they had built. At one point something had to have happened for them to take a look at their books and once they did, they realized the gravity of the situation. They also did not do themselves any favors when they were trying to secure the future of their business by going silent with comms (presumably due to negotiations, NDA's and lawyers) and a cryptic social media post about their "trouble". Once customers started getting concerned and starting disputes it went downhill from there. I don't have any ties to the Pelfrey's. I don't know them and I've never bought anything from them so I'm not speaking as one of their friends, just as someone who is looking at the situation objectively.

I had ties to them, I went to Moab with them, they were there when I spread my dog's ashes in those hills. They put me up at their place before and after my Baja trip. I can't say they WERE my friends, they still are one could say, but my god...I'm so upset for what's happened to my other friends who are screwed over by this.

I just don't know what to say. Like a lot of people I was rooting for them to right the ship, and as things went south and more info came out...I just couldn't.

I literally can't even.

It's now my job to point people to information, and resources, to be made as whole again as possible.
 
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pelfrey owes me 2 bolts.. and a few plastic covers. Wonder if thats enough to get listed as a creditor.. honestly... great bumper they made, just sucks with this whole situation.
 
they told me these holes were standard. on all bumpers

thinking of it, they probably just cobbled it together.. with parts they had on hand
 

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