Puncture near sidewall

[bloodninja]

Hey guys. Just found a screw in the tread really close to the sidewall on one of my tires today.

I'm reasonably certain a plug will be just fine, but will it still be safe to air down to 15 PSI when off-roading or will the plug be compromised?

I've never dealt with tire repair on an off-road vehicle before. Obviously I'll be taking it to a shop. Just looking for some thoughts on the viability of safety vs replacing the tire.

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[NorthwoodsRunner]

Hey guys. Just found a screw in the tread really close to the sidewall on one of my tires today.

I'm reasonably certain a plug will be just fine, but will it still be safe to air down to 15 PSI when off-roading or will the plug be compromised?

I've never dealt with tire repair on an off-road vehicle before. Obviously I'll be taking it to a shop. Just looking for some thoughts on the viability of safety vs replacing the tire. View attachment 232822View attachment 232823

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IMHO - I think this is a fixable item. You are close to the sidewall but still away from the side wall. It is possible a tire shop may refuse to fix it for liability reasons. I would just plug it and drive it.

 

[Bob43]

not repairable :sobbing:
Actually this is something a tire shop would not repair but you could do it yourself

 

[flyrv9]

I wouldn't repair it - not worth the risk. We had a similar issue on our 4Runner. I had the spare put on in place of the bad tire and bought a new spare with a more aggressive tread. 4 more nails and I'm good to go!

 

[00Sebby]

Is it actually leaking? If it is, I would have no reservations about plugging and forgetting about it.

 

[FrontRange4Runner]

Too close to the side wall. Not worth the risk IMHO. There is a reason shops do not repair tires with punctures in that area. Did you happen to get replacement certificates or anything like that?

 

[CrazyMike]

The shoulder area is where the most heat generation occurs in a tire. If that area is damaged, you might not get the heat dissipation that you need to maintain the integrity of the tire. It could result in the tread separating from the rest of the tire.

Recommendation: replace the tire.

Full disclosure - I work for a major tire manufacturer. :thumb:

 

[Saker]

[MENTION=126590]bloodninja[/MENTION],

That's definitely considered sidewall.
I had a stone penetrate the tire closer to the center than of your nail location and it was considered sidewall and replaced!

 

[bloodninja]

Thanks for the quick responses, guys! Much appreciated!!!

I'll have it replaced to be safe. Nothing in the world is worth saving money if it means putting myself, my family, and others at risk :thumb:

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[bloodninja]

As a quick follow-up, considering the way the Limited's full-time 4WD system works:

Is it okay to run 1 new tire when the overall difference in tread depth is 3/32". I know that'd be problematic on an AWD vehicle, but I'm not entirely certain how the Limited's full-time 4WD would manage that.

The only thing the manual says about the topic is "Also, do not mix tires of remarkably different treadwear."

I wouldn't think 3/32" difference is "remarkable", but I'm not an expert on the matter either.

 

[3wbdriver]

3/32" should be okay. I use mileage on a set of tires to make that determination. I had to replace two different pairs of tires this year because one at each end had sidewall damage on 2 different occasions, and replacing one tire each would have been too big a difference in tread depth.

One other thought. That screw is in a deep lug. You might try removing the screw itself to see how long it actually is. If it's only a 1/2" long this could be much ado over nothing.

 

[bloodninja]

3/32" should be okay. I use mileage on a set of tires to make that determination. I had to replace to different pairs of tires this year because one at each end had sidewall damage on 2 different occasions, and replacing one tire each would have been to big a difference in tread depth.

One other thought. That screw in is a deep lug. You might try removing the screw itself to see how long it actually is. If it's only a 1/2" long this could be much ado over nothing.

Good thinking. I'll have to find a flat area to test out the removal theory.

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[Jhalko]

One other thought. That screw is in a deep lug. You might try removing the screw itself to see how long it actually is. If it's only a 1/2" long this could be much ado over nothing.

I noticed it was in the lug as well, but the screw looks like a star driven so it's probably a deck screw. Based on that I was thinking it's going to be longer, and since on the edge, probably just best to go to the tire shop.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I'd bin it and call it a day. Too close to the sidewall for my comfort zone.

 

[Bumbo]

I would replace it with a new tire as well for road use, but I would still keep the punctured tire and plug it... stuff like that makes for a nice trail spare if you have an extra rim or two.

 

[mgosts]

The shoulder area is where the most heat generation occurs in a tire. If that area is damaged, you might not get the heat dissipation that you need to maintain the integrity of the tire. It could result in the tread separating from the rest of the tire.

Recommendation: replace the tire.

Full disclosure - I work for a major tire manufacturer. :thumb:

[MENTION=137485]CrazyMike[/MENTION]
Came across this older thread and saw your full disclosure. Would mind commenting on this sidewall cut?

Pretty shallow, no threads showing. Appears to be superficial cut, but I speak from no experience.

Thank you

 

[manganos]

I wouldn't drive my wife, kids or dog around in a vehicle that I knew had a defect like that in a tire.

Spend the $$$ and have piece of mind.

[MENTION=137485]CrazyMike[/MENTION]
Came across this older thread and saw your full disclosure. Would mind commenting on this sidewall cut?

Pretty shallow, no threads showing. Appears to be superficial cut, but I speak from no experience.

Thank you

 

[SacStateHornets]

Depends on how deep. Could be a short screw, I'd probably replace it if the other tires don't have many miles. Some shops won't repair any sidewall.


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[CrazyMike]

[MENTION=137485]CrazyMike[/MENTION]
Came across this older thread and saw your full disclosure. Would mind commenting on this sidewall cut?

Pretty shallow, no threads showing. Appears to be superficial cut, but I speak from no experience.

Thank you

While it doesn't look bad, I can't really determine where on the sidewall the cut is...

You could up your air pressure check frequency and find out if you're losing air. Everything else is all about your piece of mind.

 

[trex9K]

When replacing a single tire are there guidelines on max tread depth difference when compared to the sister tire on the same axle and the tires on the other axle?