Rago Fabrication / Rear Cargo Organizers

I don't really care for them. They don't look like they fit very tight to the window area. The connection points don't seem to be hearty enough to support the weight of the unit and the crap you have strapped to it in the event of crash.
 
I want it so bad, but not giving us the choice to only order one side at first is very limiting. Not sure why you are making this choice. Guess I will see what comes first. The option to order one side, or my unwillingness to wait any longer and take a chance with that other company that shall not be named.
 
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Titanpat57 said:
Still don't like them...and a static load and load under moving forces are quite different.
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Are you saying you like the brand that specifically tells you to never mount a fire extinguisher or tank of any kind?

Or that you think any of these is not safe for that type weight in motion?

I'm a bit confused on your point. I get the part about moving weight and filling those racks up with hard and heavy then getting in an accident, something has to carry the load. I expect some people here could figure out what the stressed might be and where the failure would likely occur.

But the OB rack says flat out... don't do it... and one rack I saw, not sure the brand, was not even attached at the rear.

So are you saying the Toyota mount points being used are not going to carry the load under stress or that this specific one is weaker than others by design. To me it looks like it's mounted more securely than others I've seen so I can't quite understand what you are trying to get across.

I don't know who makes this one, but it's clearly going to be a problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGUxFQwrf6w
 
tb-av said:
Are you saying you like the brand that specifically tells you to never mount a fire extinguisher or tank of any kind?

Or that you think any of these is not safe for that type weight in motion?

I'm a bit confused on your point. I get the part about moving weight and filling those racks up with hard and heavy then getting in an accident, something has to carry the load. I expect some people here could figure out what the stressed might be and where the failure would likely occur.

But the OB rack says flat out... don't do it... and one rack I saw, not sure the brand, was not even attached at the rear.

So are you saying the Toyota mount points being used are not going to carry the load under stress or that this specific one is weaker than others by design. To me it looks like it's mounted more securely than others I've seen so I can't quite understand what you are trying to get across.

I don't know who makes this one, but it's clearly going to be a problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGUxFQwrf6w
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Those attachment points were designed to hold grocery bags, coats, and as a hook for the cargo net. They weren't designed to hold a Molle rack along with other crap you put on it. If you attach anything else to it you are exceeding the manufacturers load rating for it. If you get into an accident and it becomes a volatile projectile than that is on you. That is what he's getting at.

If you buy it you are accepting that risk. That being said I'm buying one with that understanding.
 
Whether these are strong enough in a crash, I have no idea. But it isn't my primary safety concern.

I would think having these would increase your odds of a break-in, since it puts stuff right up where it can be seen. Would you hang a rack on a window frame in your house and then hang gear on it? Or a gun?! Gear, by the way, that is known to be "tacticool." Methinks having one of these racks would be like putting an NRA sticker on your truck. Basically announces to the world, "There are probably guns in here, or at least lots of expensive gear."

I'm not against the product, guns, or the NRA. Just wondering if these types of racks are going to increase theft. Seem like you'd constantly have to take all your gear off the rack anytime you park your truck out in public.
 
proimion said:
Whether these are strong enough in a crash, I have no idea. But it isn't my primary safety concern.

I would think having these would increase your odds of a break-in, since it puts stuff right up where it can be seen. Would you hang a rack on a window frame in your house and then hang gear on it? Or a gun?! Gear, by the way, that is known to be "tacticool." Methinks having one of these racks would be like putting an NRA sticker on your truck. Basically announces to the world, "There are probably guns in here, or at least lots of expensive gear."

I'm not against the product, guns, or the NRA. Just wondering if these types of racks are going to increase theft. Seem like you'd constantly have to take all your gear off the rack anytime you park your truck out in public.
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That is a concern. I believe one member here installed curtains between the window and rack. I suppose it depends a lot on where you drive, park, live.

Now that companies like Levelor make automated blinds ( Bluetooth / TCP/IP , etc. ). It would not be out of the question to fabricate a retractable screen that operates in conjunction with maybe the puddle lights, a switch, or as most of that stuff works through, your phone.
 
Muzzle of Bees said:
That is is pretty pricey for a flat piece of metal with some basic hardware.
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Well, from the looks of it they are probably getting these either laser or waterjet cut. Then having them bent probably with an automated press to retain better consistency, then hand sanding them down before finishing (if the customer requests that). Plus hardware, assuming they're buying bulk stand-offs vs. machining their own. They're probably not entirely out of reason asking for $300 a pair to cover production costs, make a profit, and pay off development costs.

The OBF ones aren't any cheaper really.

But hey if you think you can make them cheaper, give it a go and let us know. :)
 
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BlackWorksInc said:
Well, from the looks of it they are probably getting these either laser or waterjet cut. Then having them bent probably with an automated press to retain better consistency, then hand sanding them down before finishing (if the customer requests that). Plus hardware, assuming they're buying bulk stand-offs vs. machining their own. They're probably not entirely out of reason asking for $300 a pair to cover production costs, make a profit, and pay off development costs.

But hey if you think you can make them cheaper, give it a go and let us know. :)
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Figured I would hop on between filling orders....

The Rago Modular Storage Panels were CNC Plasma cut at our shop for design and bent using our CNC press brake. We will be laser cutting the parts to get them out for the PRESALE while making a few extras for stock. Once the items get back from laser, we will be hand sanding them and bending them ourselves. Then they will go off to powder coat. The stand offs themselves will be machined at our shop and eventually be outsourced but to get the job done now, we will be doing it.

We are a very small shop and well some may not agree with our price point, it allows us to make a modest living. We are humble people and do what we love. Equipment and tooling is not cheap.
 
BlackWorksInc said:
Well, from the looks of it they are probably getting these either laser or waterjet cut. Then having them bent probably with an automated press to retain better consistency, then hand sanding them down before finishing (if the customer requests that). Plus hardware, assuming they're buying bulk stand-offs vs. machining their own. They're probably not entirely out of reason asking for $300 a pair to cover production costs, make a profit, and pay off development costs.

The OBF ones aren't any cheaper really.

But hey if you think you can make them cheaper, give it a go and let us know. :)
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They are not for me. I don't really like the look or the way they function. They are like a fish out of water. Interesting that you comment though. I have an idea that I have been working on. I am not too much in a hurry though. Dealing with people is the part I hate the most.
 
I'm sure someone can have it made overseas and sell it for much less but I'm happy to spend a few extra bucks and support our small community and small American businesses. Melissa [MENTION=139789]RagoFabrication[/MENTION] has been extremely helpful and receptive to everyone's input.
 
tb-av said:
LOL, yeah, for $300 you can always go to WholeFoods and get a half bag of groceries and a doughnut.
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My son loves donuts but even though we are charging you $300. We can't afford Whole Foods. [emoji23]

Shoooottttt. We can't even afford the vehicles we make products for. I drive a 2013 Town and Country Mini Van.
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I need to talk to the Mr about making me some products to pimp my ride.


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