RAS Swap & Front Suspension questions

[Bernardchan96]

So im looking at doing a couple things this year and pricing them.
For those who have swapped RAS to Coils, i was wondering whether the OEM top spring isolator would work with an aftermarket coil? Im planning to go with Metal Tech conversion kit. and they sell them with and without the isolator. The OEM top isolator is flat and does not go into the coil
Lexus GX470 Rear Coil Conversion Kit Complete

I Will be doing some front end work. and seeing what to buy, This is the list im currently pricing out
UCA: JBA Upper Control Arm
LCA: OEM takeoffs with Senkei 555 ball joints
Shocks: i Currently run bilstein 5100 +Fj coils but want to stick with my Bilsteins + Dobinsons/Toytec/OME. Mild offroading, more daily.

 

[jcaino]

Yes, the OEM upper isolator/secondary bumpstop will work with after-market springs.

That said, if you are planning on doing aftermarket air bags to retain some load adjustability, skip the expensive OEM isolator and just get the moog one that is flat w/ no bumpstop. You'll save money and wont have to cut down the expensive OEM part.

Plans for the frontend look good, but I'd probably skip the take-offs. Check out the LCA's from SuperPro. I wish they were available when I did my LCA's.

SuperPro LCA

 

[Bernardchan96]

Yes, the OEM upper isolator/secondary bumpstop will work with after-market springs.

That said, if you are planning on doing aftermarket air bags to retain some load adjustability, skip the expensive OEM isolator and just get the moog one that is flat w/ no bumpstop. You'll save money and wont have to cut down the expensive OEM part.

Plans for the frontend look good, but I'd probably skip the take-offs. Check out the LCA's from SuperPro. I wish they were available when I did my LCA's.

SuperPro LCA

So for the rear im getting rid of the airbags cause i dont tow that often for the need. In terms of the rear spring isolator OEM comes with the spring cone isolator but i can use these moog ones instead with my aftermarket coils?

Moog K160061 Coil Spring Insulator, Insulators - Amazon Canada thinking of upgrading bumpstops anyways since im looking at 2” lift on the rear atleast.
I wish i could afford the LCA i got a deal on good condition take offs with brand new ball joints in box for $50


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[jcaino]

Yes, I used the Moog ones.

 

[Bernardchan96]

Yes, I used the Moog ones.

So my purchase list would just be

1) Coil spring insulators/isolators Could i go with either these
A) Moog K160061 Moog K160061 Coil Spring Insulator, Insulators - Amazon Canada
or B)2005 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 4.7L V8 Coil Spring Seat / Insulator | RockAuto

Then for the bottom of the springs get the
Lexus GX470 Rear Coil Conversion Kit

im curious because i see youtube videos and guys doing conversions are using the bottom spring seat like the metal tech stage 1 kit, is this a necessity?

 

[jcaino]

So my purchase list would just be

1) Coil spring insulators/isolators Could i go with either these
A) Moog K160061 Moog K160061 Coil Spring Insulator, Insulators - Amazon Canada
or B)2005 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 4.7L V8 Coil Spring Seat / Insulator | RockAuto

Then for the bottom of the springs get the
Lexus GX470 Rear Coil Conversion Kit


im curious because i see youtube videos and guys doing conversions are using the bottom spring seat like the metal tech stage 1 kit, is this a necessity?

You need an isolator for the top and bottom of the spring. Moog is the one for the top, kit comes with the bottom one.

 

[Bernardchan96]

You need an isolator for the top and bottom of the spring. Moog is the one for the top, kit comes with the bottom one.

Yeah ill get the metal tech stage 1 kit for the bottom isolator. The top one either i go moog top isolator, or the rockauto one that i linked


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[Mikes3rdgen]

Wait, so youre running the 5100s with the bags still in? What do you think of the ride and what setting do you have them at? I might do that as well and then pull the bags with i get more money to do the swap..

 

[Bernardchan96]

Wait, so youre running the 5100s with the bags still in? What do you think of the ride and what setting do you have them at? I might do that as well and then pull the bags with i get more money to do the swap..

Yeah 5100 all around, the front is nice with the coils, but the rear is stiff, very stiff. Maybe the bags are just old or something but i definitely think itll be much better with coils since im not towing all the time.