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What's different with the T4R's gas pedal that hasn't resulted in recalls like the rest of the Toyota family?

Didn't note any Lexus vehicles getting recalled even though many compare the avalon with the LS and the camry with the ES.
 
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Use the search feature, this has been discussed quite a bit already.

The 4Runner is made in Japan, which uses a throttle assembly made by Denso. All the parts in question are on vehicles that are made in the US by a company called CST.
 
MikesToy said:
I'm tired of hearing about Toyota Recalls.
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I'm with you Mike, ...., guess it further highlights the difference in quality since the bad parts and vehicles affected are made in the USA - I always try to support American made when possible, but - I have had Ford, Dodge, Jeep, and Chevrolet, ....., I can tell you horror stories on all 4, and that is why we now buy Toyota and Nissan.
 
manhunter said:
I'm with you Mike, ...., guess it further highlights the difference in quality since the bad parts and vehicles affected are made in the USA - I always try to support American made when possible, but - I have had Ford, Dodge, Jeep, and Chevrolet, ....., I can tell you horror stories on all 4, and that is why we now buy Toyota and Nissan.
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I'm not sure whether it's a "bad part."

The "bad part" was built via Toyota's specs, as developed by Toyota engineers.

Could be bad design vice bad part, and just happened to be assembled in USA.
 
DC Dude said:
What's different with the T4R's gas pedal that hasn't resulted in recalls like the rest of the Toyota family?

Didn't note any Lexus vehicles getting recalled even though many compare the avalon with the LS and the camry with the ES.
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4Runner and Lexus vehicles are made in Japan.

BlairB said:
The 4Runner is made in Japan, which uses a throttle assembly made by Denso. All the parts in question are on vehicles that are made in the US by a company called CST.
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DC Dude said:
The "bad part" was built via Toyota's specs, as developed by Toyota engineers. Could be bad design vice bad part, and just happened to be assembled in USA.
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Only goes to show what happens when Japanese precision engeneering ends up in the hands of "highly-skilled" unionized American workers. :sobbing:
 
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Here's a sweeping generalization. All manufacturers have had recalls. Some are better at keeping it on the DL while others fumble it up.

We've seen Fight Club right? Isn't that enough foreshadowing :) :violin:
 
I thought the components in question were built by an American company in a Canadian plant. Maybe I read it wrong.


What if statistically there's nothing really wrong. What if the floormat thing needed to be fixed and maybe there isn't much of a real problem.


What if Gov't Motors and Chrysler are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill... I'm just sayin'.
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I think its just a gov`t conspiracy to knock down big T so the new gov`t owned detroit automakers can try and get a foot hold back in the market! Even Honda is having problems with electrical fires!
 
I spoke to a Toyota rep at the autoshow today. No Lexus vehicle is affected because they use a different manufacturer for the gas pedals. Only Toyotas built in America are affected.
 
I agree with CJ3, I heard many divisions of Gov't Motors are now trying to lure us loyal toyota owners into their showrooms with incentives like 0% financing and cash back if you trade in your Toyota. They will try anything now to make money :driving:
 
getsomeVA said:
I agree with CJ3, I heard many divisions of Gov't Motors are now trying to lure us loyal toyota owners into their showrooms with incentives like 0% financing and cash back if you trade in your Toyota. They will try anything now to make money :driving:
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I took advantage, I just traded in my 4Runner for a brand new Acadia!!!!!


If Honda or another reliable company was offering this promotion, I would say fine. If somebody falls for this, lets hope they get used to recalls every few months instead of every decade.
 
Government Motors isn't the only one offering incentives for Toyota owners. There are several brands amongst them Ford, Hyundai, and even Honda, reported by the local news.

Everyone makes mistakes that needs to be fixed (through a recall), Toyota hasn't made much except recently. And when you're the #1 automaker selling a ton of cars, there's a lot to fix. Just sad that Toyota is falling from grace with about 7M vehicles (floormat recall and accelerator pedal) in recent months. Yes, I know they are two seperate recalls. I guess Toyota mechanics use to not having a lot of warranty work are going to be pretty busy.

At this point, I think the finger pointing begins. CST says they started supplying pedals to Toyota in 2005 and designed to Toyota specs, but runaway Toyotas were reported prior to '05. There are no recalls with models using the Denso pedal. Sounds similar to the Ford/Firestone fiasco.
 
Uneek said:
Government Motors isn't the only one offering incentives for Toyota owners. There are several brands amongst them Ford, Hyundai, and even Honda, reported by the local news.

Everyone makes mistakes that needs to be fixed (through a recall), Toyota hasn't made much except recently. And when you're the #1 automaker selling a ton of cars, there's a lot to fix. Just sad that Toyota is falling from grace with about 7M vehicles (floormat recall and accelerator pedal) in recent months. Yes, I know they are two seperate recalls. I guess Toyota mechanics use to not having a lot of warranty work are going to be pretty busy.
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True, no person or company is perfect. When a company makes mistakes those mistakes are "news" especially when the mistakes impact public safety.
When a company stumbles there are companies that will attempt to capitalize on those mistakes. For better or worse that is part of business (at least in the USA).

Uneek said:
At this point, I think the finger pointing begins. CST says they started supplying pedals to Toyota in 2005 and designed to Toyota specs, but runaway Toyotas were reported prior to '05. There are no recalls with models using the Denso pedal. Sounds similar to the Ford/Firestone fiasco.
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No doubt there will be more finger pointing. From what I have read CST does have a point about the problem existing BEFORE they were supplying the part in question. Also, floor mats are not a new invention and have been used for years as well. Why did they become a problem/issue in the last few years?

Heck, members here in the 4Runner forums have posted that they have had the unintended acceleration problem with their 4Runners. How does Toyota explain that?

With all these issues something about this situation still does not look/sound/smell right to some people. I have a feeling that this story is not over yet.
 
charlier180 said:
With all these issues something about this situation still does not look/sound/smell right to some people. I have a feeling that this story is not over yet.
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I don't think so either and there's more to this saga. Apparently there were several investigations and no issues were found with the electronics. BUT in the floormat recall, the Toyota documents instructs the dealer/tech to reflash the ECU so that the brakes will override the throttle.

IMO, I still think there's a cover up or Toyota attempting to down play the issue and making it sound less severe. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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