Relatively unmodded 3rd Gen What to do 1st?

gumbii

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Ok, so Im a new guy here, but have been lurking for a year or so now. I have a 2002 3.4L 3rd gen with 160,000 miles on it, and thanks to another deployment and some buddies who want to go off roading, I finally have the proper incentive to put some upgrades on my rig. I havent done to much more than basic maintenance, and probably need to do some of the more long term stuff, but I figured I would post here and see what advice the hive mind gives. The car is currently my daily driver, but I want to get a little more into the off roading and am considering getting a Tundra to use for day to day stuff.

Ill start with the maintenance. I havent done much more than the basic stuff to it. Oil changes and tire rotations have been pretty religious, and I recently replaced the timing belt and pulley as it was squeaking. At the same time I had them flush the transmission. As I said, Im at 160K so Im assuming I will need to do some if not all of the following:
-Replace spark plugs (Can probably do myself)
-Possibly replace the radiator (reading on here, that seems like the recommended advice, but Ill probably leave that to the pros)
-Shock replacement (more of that in a second)

Heres where I would really like the advice. The mods, more specifically what order to do them in and will they benefit my rig?
-I have already installed a K&N intake, and removed the Running Boards with the help of a mechanically inclined buddy.
-As I probably need to replace my shocks/coils anyways, Id like to do a 2 inch lift. Im currently running 265/75/16s, so with the stock elevation, i occasionally get some rubbing on the drivers side. This is something I think I can do myself, but any advice you guys have is appreciated
-Headers. It sounds like this will help my milage/power a little and may tie into benefiting a possible supercharger. The parts I can afford, but Im split as to whether this is something I can install myself. I have a pretty basic knowledge of engines, but this may be a little above my level. Currently looking at the TRD offered setup.
-Exhaust. If Im doing the Headers, I might as well finish out the entire system. Split between a Borla setup and a TRD one, but have not made up my mind at all. Im not as keen on sound as I am performance and exhaust location, so please let me know what you think.
-Supercharger???- So this one may be a stretch. Its also the priciest option and sounds like it wont exactly help my gas milage. As my rig is at 160K plus, it also looks like there is some debate on here as to whether or not the engine can handle it. I also am completely unfamiliar with the Dynos and specific engine tweaking that this would take, so if I do get one, I probably wont install it myself.

So given this, which should I attack first? Im coming off this deployment in a few weeks and am trying to order the stuff I want to do now, but am pretty new to the DIYS stuff.
 
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None of the mods you've listed will benefit you offroad, with the possible exception of shocks. I say possible because you're just as likely to do more harm than good there until you know exactly what you want.

Instead of asking opinions on specific mods, why not list what you want the truck to do and let the "hive mind" do what it does best? From what you've said so far, my suggestion would be to forget all the performance mods for now and just go get the truck dirty. If you need to spend money, a good set of sliders and skids should be number one on the list, and a well packed bag of recovery and emergency gear should be a close second. A rear bumper is third, and then if you find you're really getting into it, a front bumper with a winch. That should soak up all the budget you've got and then some, and you'll have plenty of time to wheel it like that while you decide what comes next. I'm a strong proponent of wheeling your truck stock until you get to know it. Worry about upgrades when it's the truck holding you back instead of the other way around :).

If your buddies are new to wheeling too, may I suggest looking at joining an offroading club? There's more to wheeling than just making the truck go places it shouldn't - some places you really shouldn't go, and experienced wheelers can help show you the ropes, and how to find safe, fun, and legal places to wheel. Check out Tread Lightly and Stay The Trail for some awesome tips.
 
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If you don't mind a little rubbing, why lift? Once you start changing geometry, you'll find that you have to "put this on to counter that, then put that on to counter this". Once you start down that road, there's no stopping. But if you want a little more lift and should stop the rubbing, get some 99 model coils to put on. 99 model coils are a little taller and (IIRC) were a one year run. New shocks will help as well. As far as the other mods you mentioned, they're not going to help you off road.

Best advice I can give is to get some rock sliders and HD skid plates. The "stock level" T4R is very capable right out of the box for offroading for most people. Anything more "hardcore" and you'll have to consider a SAS anyway.

Hope this helps :)
 
I did neglect to mention that. I am going to add a (for starters) front bumper and transmission and transfer case skid plate. Once I get the front bumper on, Ill have to see what type of front end plates will still fit. All of those Im pretty sure I can do myself though, and at this point, the only question I have on it is whether or not to go with a Schrockworks or ARB grill guard. Just out of curiosity, why do you recommend I get a rear bumper before I get a front one?

As they are more protection and cosmetic based, Im not as worried about the protection part as I am with the engine upgrades. I can install those myself without to much help. I already some basic recovery gear (tow straps, leather gloves, chains) and an emergency kit and my BOB in the car. I was wheeling it stock before we deployed but I found that I didnt push it too far as I didnt want to risk totalling my daily driver. The armor should help a lot of that.
 
Just out of curiosity, why do you recommend I get a rear bumper before I get a front one?

Visibility and clearances are both better in the front. The departure angle on these trucks frankly sucks. I know the front bumper is sexier, but you're much more likely to ding the rear.
 
If you don't mind a little rubbing, why lift? Once you start changing geometry, you'll find that you have to "put this on to counter that, then put that on to counter this". Once you start down that road, there's no stopping. But if you want a little more lift and should stop the rubbing, get some 99 model coils to put on. 99 model coils are a little taller and (IIRC) were a one year run. New shocks will help as well. As far as the other mods you mentioned, they're not going to help you off road.

Best advice I can give is to get some rock sliders and HD skid plates. The "stock level" T4R is very capable right out of the box for offroading for most people. Anything more "hardcore" and you'll have to consider a SAS anyway.

Hope this helps :)

So this is the set I am looking at getting for right now. My truck has the factory plates, but they are pretty well banged up and one is starting to rust where it landed on a rock a few years ago.

Rock Rated® Toyota Tacoma & 4Runner Products - Skid Row Offroad

The factory Transmission plate is holding up pretty well so Im going to start with the Transfer case and then probably get the front skid. Suggestions?
 
If you don't mind a little rubbing, why lift? Once you start changing geometry, you'll find that you have to "put this on to counter that, then put that on to counter this". Once you start down that road, there's no stopping. But if you want a little more lift and should stop the rubbing, get some 99 model coils to put on. 99 model coils are a little taller and (IIRC) were a one year run. New shocks will help as well. As far as the other mods you mentioned, they're not going to help you off road.

Best advice I can give is to get some rock sliders and HD skid plates. The "stock level" T4R is very capable right out of the box for offroading for most people. Anything more "hardcore" and you'll have to consider a SAS anyway.

Hope this helps :)

I dont want to go too overboard, but from where I have been going in CO so far, I kinda get the feeling a little lift would help out. I pretty regularly shred the undercarriage (as I mentioned above, Im having to replace the factory skid plates). 2 Inches is about as high as I want to go since I dont want to alter the trucks height too much.
 
I dont want to go too overboard, but from where I have been going in CO so far, I kinda get the feeling a little lift would help out. I pretty regularly shred the undercarriage (as I mentioned above, Im having to replace the factory skid plates). 2 Inches is about as high as I want to go since I dont want to alter the trucks height too much.

If you want "A LITTLE LIFT" and your not going to go to hardcore, I would suggest going with the LC coils on the rear and depending on funds either top plate spacers or coil overs on the front. I believe Toytec has a fairly good setup, but I haven't used it so I don't no. That will give you about a 3-3.5" lift. for smaller than that go with the '99 coils and a small top plate.

As far as the front and rear bumper, like KidV said the approach angle on these is fine. The departure angle is REDONCULIOS. When I SASed mine I custom built my rear bumper and am running with basically no front bumper. The reason is I know I have clearance in the front and don't want to destroy the rear of my body!!!!!!!!
 
If you want "A LITTLE LIFT" and your not going to go to hardcore, I would suggest going with the LC coils on the rear and depending on funds either top plate spacers or coil overs on the front. I believe Toytec has a fairly good setup, but I haven't used it so I don't no. That will give you about a 3-3.5" lift. for smaller than that go with the '99 coils and a small top plate.

As far as the front and rear bumper, like KidV said the approach angle on these is fine. The departure angle is REDONCULIOS. When I SASed mine I custom built my rear bumper and am running with basically no front bumper. The reason is I know I have clearance in the front and don't want to destroy the rear of my body!!!!!!!!

Im not looking to do a complete rock crawler, I just need a little more clearance when it comes to crossing rock slides and washed out trails where there is nothing left but 4ft boulders in the way, and to prevent the tires from rubbing. Not to much, but enough to give the undercarraige a little more clearance than current. Like it was mentioned earlier these trucks are pretty good stock so I dont want to mess with it too much.

Heres the setup I am currently looking at for the shocks.
Project SportRunner
Basically OMEs Springs in the rear and TRD in the front, with Blisten 5100 shocks on all sides.

For the Rear (and front) bumpers, Im looking at this or something similar
4Runner Rear Bumper & Tire Rack, 3rd Gen (1996-2002)

Like I said, barring any life changing feedback, Iv got an idea what I want to do with the rig in terms of physical ride, its the lift and engine stuff that I am much more up in the air on.
 
I would get Bud Built skid plates and go to the next size tire and call it a day - if the tires rub a lot, then get a mild lift.

If you go for the heavy front and rear custom bumpers you will probably need to get a more heavy duty suspension.
 

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