Removing Parking Brake For Good

I did my moms brakes on her FJ last week. It has 66k miles, brakes were so corroded it was ridiculous! The guide pins that hold the front pads in were so built up with rust I had to heat, beat, heat, and use a nail punch to get them out. The rears were just as bad and the parking brake kept binding up and popped one of the springs holding the shoe on during the process. Make sure you loosen your parking brake through that adjustment hole so that they are as loose as possible, then use the bolts to push the rotor off. Personally, next time I do my brakes I am ditching the parking brake. I never use it, ever, it isn't even adjusted to do anything, and it is just a serious pain in my @ss! lol

TRUTH^^^^^^
parking brakes on this 4runner = POOP
whom ever designed this should be slapped in the mouth over and over
parking brakes are over ratted
i have full coverage .........
now i wish this truck had drums like my taco did......
 
I hope you are never in a brake related accident. Your insurance company will undoubtedly deny the claim and worse if you are at fault, they deny to represent you. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
 
30 years driving
No issues
I will take that chance

It only takes one, and it doesn't have to be your fault. I had been driving accident free myself until a woman swerved in front of me and slammed on her brakes. She hired one of those sleazy lawyers you see on TV. What they don't say is that those dirt bags don't sue your insurance company, they sue you. If your insurance company drops you, they can then seize all your assets. Car, house, bank account, etc. They went over my truck after the accident with a fine tooth comb. Asking for recent inspections, maintenance, etc. Knowing how these master cylinders fail without warning on these 4 runners, your parking brake is your only back up. I can promise you that if yours fails, you have an accident and they see you removed your parking brake, you are screwed. Is it really worth the risk?
 
It only takes one, and it doesn't have to be your fault. I had been driving accident free myself until a woman swerved in front of me and slammed on her brakes. She hired one of those sleazy lawyers you see on TV. What they don't say is that those dirt bags don't sue your insurance company, they sue you. If your insurance company drops you, they can then seize all your assets. Car, house, bank account, etc. They went over my truck after the accident with a fine tooth comb. Asking for recent inspections, maintenance, etc. Knowing how these master cylinders fail without warning on these 4 runners, your parking brake is your only back up. I can promise you that if yours fails, you have an accident and they see you removed your parking brake, you are screwed. Is it really worth the risk?

I've got to agree wholeheartedly with this. It's a roll of the dice. As a firefighter/ rescue technician I've been to plenty of car wrecks on our busy beltline highway. On 2 occasions my ladder truck ran calls where a driver's life was saved by the EMERGENCY brake. One call I went to, the other was about a week later on a different shift.

It's not a parking brake, that's just what it's commonly used for. It's an emergency mechanical back up in the event of hydraulic system failure.

I'd seriously recommend you bite the bullet and just deal with the headache of fixing it. Likely, the reason for your issues is that you never used it for parking. By using it for a parking brake, you exercise the mechanism to prevent corrosion and other issue due to non-use (and as a side benefit, reduce stress on the transmission components). It's not a flawed design...

Same thing happened to me with an E-brake on an F150. It froze one day when I decided to use it (I never used them before that). I can sympathize with ratty E-brakes. My next truck was a newer F150, had that for 100k miles (including 6 years of NC winter where salt brine is used on the roads, and they'll put out salt in a skinny minute if they think there might be snow). Anyway, I used the E-brake all the time and never once had the inkling of an issue. Same with my 'Runner.

Lastly, remember Murphy, once you take that thing out, you'll probably have a situation you'll want to use it, maybe (hopefully not) NEED it....
 
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30 years driving
No issues
I will take that chance

It's not just you taking the chance... there are other people around you when you drive. A little responsibility goes a long way.

I don't think the parking brake removal is such a bad thing but, I do believe when you hit the brake pedal during normal braking the rear brakes are also engaging. You effectively eliminated a good 40% of your braking power. I would reinstall new calipers and pads. Not a good idea driving around with degraded brakes like you have going on now.

I think the above post about insurance is right on. When they inspect your vehicle and realized you were driving without rear brakes it will be a big issue in the claim... Also it will not pass inspection at any state inspection location. Mine was almost failed for having low pads in the rear...

Its not hard to replace the rotors and i recommend you just fix it rather than cannibalize the rear braking system as you have done.
 
I do believe when you hit the brake pedal during normal braking the rear brakes are also engaging. You effectively eliminated a good 40% of your braking power.

You don't understand the parking brake system of the 4runner. The rear brakes are disc brakes....but inside the rotor is the parking brakes which is shoe brakes. By eliminating the parking brake you still have rear brakes...you don't have parking/emergency brakes.
 
You don't understand the parking brake system of the 4runner. The rear brakes are disc brakes....but inside the rotor is the parking brakes which is shoe brakes. By eliminating the parking brake you still have rear brakes...you don't have parking/emergency brakes.

Ahh ok. I thought he was talking about removing all the hardware and pads... didn't know about under the rotor parking brake system.

It will still fail NY inspection.
 
I hear ya
Waiting on my mech to see what he charges to install them as i have it all cleaned and ready

And jfi i don't even have to leave home to have my car inspected
Its ny
We have a guy
They don't check shit
Emissions pass ur good to go
Or go to my guy
Lol
 
And jfi i don't even have to leave home to have my car inspected
Its ny
We have a guy
They don't check shit
Emissions pass ur good to go
Or go to my guy

Here's the problem with NY state inspections and your "Guy".

If YOU get in an accident which is caused by the parking brake not being there...then your "Guy" and YOU can be held liable. If someone hit my vehicle and it was determined that they the brakes failed and they purposely removed the parking brake..then I'd sue that person out of existence. The "Guy" that did the inspection - I'd own his business also.
 
I've got to agree wholeheartedly with this. It's a roll of the dice. As a firefighter/ rescue technician I've been to plenty of car wrecks on our busy beltline highway. On 2 occasions my ladder truck ran calls where a driver's life was saved by the EMERGENCY brake. One call I went to, the other was about a week later on a different shift.

It's not a parking brake, that's just what it's commonly used for. It's an emergency mechanical back up in the event of hydraulic system failure.

I'd seriously recommend you bite the bullet and just deal with the headache of fixing it. Likely, the reason for your issues is that you never used it for parking. By using it for a parking brake, you exercise the mechanism to prevent corrosion and other issue due to non-use (and as a side benefit, reduce stress on the transmission components). It's not a flawed design...

Same thing happened to me with an E-brake on an F150. It froze one day when I decided to use it (I never used them before that). I can sympathize with ratty E-brakes. My next truck was a newer F150, had that for 100k miles (including 6 years of NC winter where salt brine is used on the roads, and they'll put out salt in a skinny minute if they think there might be snow). Anyway, I used the E-brake all the time and never once had the inkling of an issue. Same with my 'Runner.

Lastly, remember Murphy, once you take that thing out, you'll probably have a situation you'll want to use it, maybe (hopefully not) NEED it....

Some clarification, while the Parking Brake can be used in the event of an emergency; they are no longer classified by manufacturers as "Emergency Brakes" because most Parking Brakes are not designed to stop a vehicle at speed, but rather hold the vehicle against its own weight. Its an important distinction that is brought about by legal issues in the past related to people thinking that the parking brake were good enough to be used as regular brakes. Most vehicles have gone to front & rear disc brakes, where most "Emergency Brakes" were tied to full sized brake drum systems.

That's not to say you shouldn't throw the vehicle in neutral (in the event of engine failure, unintended acceleration, transmission failure, ect), use the parking brakes to slow the vehicle down and steer it to safety off the road, by all means use everything at your disposal to save your own skin! Just to make you and others aware that the term "Parking Brake" is an industry standard because of both legal and design reasons so as not to confuse members of their purpose (we've had some people fill their gas tanks to the top of the filler neck, not realizing they've possibly damaged their gas EVAP systems and vehicle doing so, so I just want to make sure the information spread on our forum is accurate. :) )

All that being said, thank you for your service as a rescue/firefighter and we all admire and appreciate your insanity to run INTO a burning building when most people wish to run out of them. :)
 
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Some clarification, while the Parking Brake can be used in the event of an emergency; they are no longer classified by manufacturers as "Emergency Brakes" because most Parking Brakes are not designed to stop a vehicle at speed, but rather hold the vehicle against its own weight.

That is 100% true...but when my brakes fail...I'm going to use my parking brake because it's all I have left. So while it's not called an E-Brake any more...I'm going to use it in an emergency.
 

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