Replaced hydroboost, accumulator and bleed brakes manually

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I did a lot of searching and found stuff scattered around in different threads. I wanted to post my experience in hopes that it helps others who have similar issues and are looking for how to accomplish the replacement and bleed the brakes without needing Techstream. Disclaimer: YMMV.

Background:
I purchased an '05 SR5 V6 a couple months ago to act as a third vehicle for my wife and teenagers to drive. I didn't want them driving my '99 Land Cruiser everywhere, risking it getting wrecked. A 4Runner would be a lot easier to replace than my beloved 100-series. The 4Runner had good maintenance history and ran well. I decided to purchase it without doing a thorough pre-purchase inspection. Don't make the same mistake I did!

Within a day of it becoming mine, I started noticing a 'thunk' sound coming from the driver-side firewall and could hear a motor running immediately after the 'thunk'. This would happen every 10 seconds, and last for a couple seconds. I didn't matter if the vehicle was running, just the key on, driving down the road, brake pedal depressed, etc. I eventually diagnosed this as the accumulator not holding pressure. Rather than shelling out $2k - $4k to have Toyota fix the vehicle I just purchased for $6,500, I decided to fix it myself, like I do with just about everything.

After reading lots of threads about similar problems and hooking it up to Techstream to confirm that the accumulator pressure was not holding steady like it should be, I decided the best route to fix this would be to replace the accumulator and pump/motor assembly. My local Toyota dealer wanted $700 for this assembly. I decided I'd prefer to find used parts to save money. I got a complete brake master assembly from a salvage yard in San Diego for $300 (off Ebay). They claimed this unit came out of a 2010 (5th gen) with 70K miles. I would like to note that the part number on the side of the ECU cover differed by one number from the unit on my 4th gen. But because I was only replacing the pump and accumulator, I didn't care about the ECU # being different.

I had seen some folks ask if it is possible to replace the accumulator and pump assembly without removing the entire master cylinder assembly. I can confirm this is possible because I did it. It was not easy. It may have been faster to just remove the whole unit from the firewall and swap out the parts. But I didn't want to introduce any additional air into the lines and I didn't want to just swap out the entire assembly because I suspected I would need to calibrate the new brake ECU to work on my vehicle. I just wanted to remove the parts I suspected had failed and minimize the chance of air getting into the system. It required a lot of patience, lots of dexterity in my fingers and lots of pain in my hands and lower back. The motor and pump are attached to the unit through 3 rubber mounts. Two come off easily (side of pump). One was difficult (end of motor housing) because it used a metal ring retainer that I basically had to pry off and then straighten back out with some pliers before using it again later.

Another key thing I did was to manually purge the air out of the pump and accumulator by disconnecting the high pressure line where it connects to the side of the master cylinder and then running the leads directly to the battery. What this allowed me to do was bleed most of the air out of the pump and accumulator, flushing out old fluid and not involving pushing air through the master cylinder and out to the wheel ends. I attached a clear vinyl tube to the end of the high pressure line and then ran the other end of the tube into an empty quart oil bottle to catch all the fluid being pumped through it. I would pump a little, then let things settle for a minute, then repeat. The final resting to try to get bubbles to settle was about 10 minutes before the final purge of new fluid and bubbles. Once I had pumped a few cups of fluid, I reconnected the high pressure line to the side of the master cylinder. Full warning, threading the flare nut back into its proper location is very difficult and requires a lot of patience. There is a little preload on the high pressure line that causes it to not line up perfectly. It took a while to get it back on there. Another warning, make sure you use a 'line wrench' for flare nuts. If you use standard open-end wrenches, you will round off the flats on the flare nut and destroy them. I got a set of metric 'line wrenches' from Harbor Freight.

The last step in the process was to bleed the brakes. I was worried this wouldn't work very will without Techstream. It actually went just fine. I used the instructions posted on this thread in post #3 and followed the procedure for bleeding the accumulator, front brakes and rear brakes:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/145716-brake-bleeding-w-abs-w-o-sst-tool.html

I bled about 6 oz from the front calipers before getting a little air and clean fluid and maybe 12 oz out from the rear calipers with the same results.

Ultimately, there wasn't much air bubbles that came out that I noticed so I think my pre-purge of the accumulator was helpful. I will post some photos right after this to show various setups and details. If you've got specific questions, I can try to answer them. I just don't have the time to do a step-by-step how-to of the process.
 
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This is what things looked like when I received the used part and started disassembling things.
 

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Pictures of removing and disassembling the motor, pump and accumulator from the main assembly. That little copper colored ring is a bear to remove and almost as much fun to straighten out. You could probably just removed the bracket that the rubber mount is in but you'd have to use a short hex key and be doing all the work blind since it sits on the bottom of the unit, and you have very little space to work with between the bottom of the unit and the top of the wheel well. I will say that the motor from the donor unit was in a lot better shape than the one I pulled from my '05. The brushes looked almost new and there was very little dust inside the motor housing. In my '05, the brushes were about 1/2 gone and there was a LOT of black dust inside the housing.
 

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The red and black wires in the previous post are the leads that power the motor. The photos you see below show how I ran extensions from those leads and powered the motor straight from the battery to purge the pump and accumulator without having to turn the key on to the vehicle. These photos also show how I rigged up a clear vinyl tube to the high pressure line (when it was removed from the MC) and pumped the purge-fluid into an old oil bottle. Oh, and the picture showing the black rubber hose shows how I used some vice grips to clamp the line so that the brake fluid in the reservoir wouldn't spill out everywhere while I was swapping out the pump/accumulator assembly.
 

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Thanks for posting this. I somehow missed seeing it, but looked it up after you mentioned it in your Costco thread. I will be bookmarking this for future reference, as I recently had a scare with my ABS system when I had a rear caliper fail and pump all the fluid out of the piston. The ABS alarm would not shut off when I first repaired things and started bleeding so I was afraid the whole unit may have been damaged. After reading a ton of threads, I came to the conclusion that you would be forced to buy the whole unit at a huge cost because you couldn’t replace individual parts of it. Very clever approach to solving that problem!:cool:
 
Thanks for posting this. I somehow missed seeing it, but looked it up after you mentioned it in your Costco thread. I will be bookmarking this for future reference, as I recently had a scare with my ABS system when I had a rear caliper fail and pump all the fluid out of the piston. The ABS alarm would not shut off when I first repaired things and started bleeding so I was afraid the whole unit may have been damaged. After reading a ton of threads, I came to the conclusion that you would be forced to buy the whole unit at a huge cost because you couldn’t replace individual parts of it. Very clever approach to solving that problem!:cool:

Speaking of the ABS alarm, it will come on while bleeding the rear brakes using the FSM procedure, since the car uses the pump to push the fluid out. But once you tighten the bleed nut, the pump pressurizes the system and the alarm shuts off. Just an FYI for anyone using the referenced method for manually bleeding the brakes.
 
Speaking of the ABS alarm, it will come on while bleeding the rear brakes using the FSM procedure, since the car uses the pump to push the fluid out. But once you tighten the bleed nut, the pump pressurizes the system and the alarm shuts off. Just an FYI for anyone using the referenced method for manually bleeding the brakes.

Yes, I learned that the hard way, lol. I never had a vehicle with that type of alarm, or system like this before. Definitely a learning curve to it. I am glad I installed speed bleeders because the day I put it back together I had no one around to help, so I never would have gotten it up and running again. I read about a lot of people having trouble getting a good pedal pressure after working on the rear brakes especially, but it went really smoothly for me using the speed bleeders, and a combo of manually, and using the hydro boost pump to bleed the brakes. My system ran completely dry too, so I thought I was especially screwed based on what I had read, but it was pretty straight forward once I understood how the system worked.
 
Good write up. So im assuming the 5th gen assembly you bought had the same accumulator and motor as the 4th gen? I haven’t looked them up yet. I’ve heard a few “different” noises the last few days from the abs assembly startup. Kinda anticipating a failure.


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Good write up. So im assuming the 5th gen assembly you bought had the same accumulator and motor as the 4th gen? I haven’t looked them up yet. I’ve heard a few “different” noises the last few days from the abs assembly startup. Kinda anticipating a failure.


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When I was looking at the assemblies for sale on Ebay, the model year compatibility stated that the units would fit 4th and 5th gen trucks from '05 to '16. The part I bought looked identical to the one in my '05 with the exception of one number on the side of the ECU cover. The part number on my 2005 cover is 89541-35050. The part number on the one from the 2010 model is 89541-35150. I have not opened the ECU cover to see if the boards are different. I'm not sure if the cover is even easy to open. But all the connectors are the same and the motor and accumulator are identical.
 
When I was looking at the assemblies for sale on Ebay, the model year compatibility stated that the units would fit 4th and 5th gen trucks from '05 to '16. The part I bought looked identical to the one in my '05 with the exception of one number on the side of the ECU cover. The part number on my 2005 cover is 89541-35050. The part number on the one from the 2010 model is 89541-35150. I have not opened the ECU cover to see if the boards are different. I'm not sure if the cover is even easy to open. But all the connectors are the same and the motor and accumulator are identical.

I seem to recall someone recently posting that they bought a used master cylinder to get the ECU to swap out for his ECU and it had a different number than his and it wouldn't work and he had to get another ECU to get his to function correctly.

If I'm recalling this correctly it seems the ECU maybe the only difference on these master cylinders.
 
When I was looking at the assemblies for sale on Ebay, the model year compatibility stated that the units would fit 4th and 5th gen trucks from '05 to '16. The part I bought looked identical to the one in my '05 with the exception of one number on the side of the ECU cover. The part number on my 2005 cover is 89541-35050. The part number on the one from the 2010 model is 89541-35150. I have not opened the ECU cover to see if the boards are different. I'm not sure if the cover is even easy to open. But all the connectors are the same and the motor and accumulator are identical.

That’s important info for those of us with trucks older than ‘05. So I guess not all 4th gens are the same.
 
Does this also resolve the issue of the squeaking that occurs pre master cylinder failure? Or is that a separate issue. I swapped ours out for a new one which was super expensive.

But I still have the old unit that was making the squawk or squeaking noise while driving. Wondering if I can rig it up as a backup when the new one fails...
 
Does this also resolve the issue of the squeaking that occurs pre master cylinder failure? Or is that a separate issue. I swapped ours out for a new one which was super expensive.

But I still have the old unit that was making the squawk or squeaking noise while driving. Wondering if I can rig it up as a backup when the new one fails...

This is just a wild guess and not based on my personal experience, but I think you should remove the boost motor and inspect its condition. My suspicion is that there are either some mechanical issues with the brushes, a bearing has gone out or some object has gotten wedged between the rotor and the outer case/magnets.

The motor is pretty simple to remove if you already have the old unit off the vehicle. You need to disconnect the red and black leads from the side of the ECU, which requires prying out the rubber plugs and unscrewing them. Then there are 3 screws that hold the motor housing onto the pump.

Once the motor is removed, there is a black rubber dust cover that simply peels off to expose one side of the stator/brushes and one of the bearings. A little bit of prying between the black plastic flange (rotor housing) and the metal flange of the motor housing will eventually allow you to separate them and then you'll be able to see what's inside the housing and around the rotor. The magnets will try to keep the unit together so be prepared for a little resistance when prying apart the housing.
 
This is just a wild guess and not based on my personal experience, but I think you should remove the boost motor and inspect its condition. My suspicion is that there are either some mechanical issues with the brushes, a bearing has gone out or some object has gotten wedged between the rotor and the outer case/magnets.

The motor is pretty simple to remove if you already have the old unit off the vehicle. You need to disconnect the red and black leads from the side of the ECU, which requires prying out the rubber plugs and unscrewing them. Then there are 3 screws that hold the motor housing onto the pump.

Once the motor is removed, there is a black rubber dust cover that simply peels off to expose one side of the stator/brushes and one of the bearings. A little bit of prying between the black plastic flange (rotor housing) and the metal flange of the motor housing will eventually allow you to separate them and then you'll be able to see what's inside the housing and around the rotor. The magnets will try to keep the unit together so be prepared for a little resistance when prying apart the housing.

Interesting, once I get the new shop setup I'll give that a shot. would be great to have a "new" one as backup. I think it ran us close to $1500 for the unit and programming from the dealer after I did the install.
 
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Resurrecting rather creating a new post.

I'm preparing for doing the work to replace the brake booster pump assembly and accumulator. Basically I'm going to carry over the master cylinder and ABS ECU as I felt that the pump and accumulator are my issues (high current draw and more frequent cycling).

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My question is (and I'm sorry to pick on [MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION]), I have access to a Power Probe brake bleeder (Amazon.com: Power Probe 2.5 Gallon Electric Brake Bleeder: Automotive), will I still need to cycle the solenoids and the ABS pump (get a computer or something else to preform this) in order to bleed the master cylinder? Or will this power bleeder be able to provide enough pressure to bleed the MC all the way through to the caliper lines?
 
Speaking of the ABS alarm, it will come on while bleeding the rear brakes using the FSM procedure, since the car uses the pump to push the fluid out. But once you tighten the bleed nut, the pump pressurizes the system and the alarm shuts off. Just an FYI for anyone using the referenced method for manually bleeding the brakes.

When the ABS light and alarm came on as you were bleeding did it throw a Toyota trouble code for low accumulator pressure? I’m assuming that this trouble code can appear when the abs light and alarm comes on because the accumulator is unable to maintain pressure due to line being open while bleeding old fluid out.
 
wow, quite helpful pictures, someone mentioned that he was able to swap the bad brake booster pump, without dropping the whole unit. from the pictures you posted, i really dont see how this could be done.
 

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