**Rickashay's OME vs. TRD Tundra/LC Review**
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Brand New Springs?
Was curious if anyone does brand new OME springs with this frankenstien setup besides going out and finding old springs or new TRD springs. Looking for brand new everything for a build. The runner will have bumpers/rack/carrier the whole thing. Kind of hard to find the correct information.
Was curious if anyone does brand new OME springs with this frankenstien setup besides going out and finding old springs or new TRD springs. Looking for brand new everything for a build. The runner will have bumpers/rack/carrier the whole thing. Kind of hard to find the correct information.
rickashay
New member
Wow this thread is still chugging along. Good ot see it!
Read back a few pages and lots of people are curious about how much rake they get with the LC 8 wraps and how so many vehicles sit different with the same setup. Something to consider... weight plays a HUGE factor in the rear ride height. The LC coils are not overly stiff (forget the spring rates off the top of my head) and therefore that shoudl be considered. If you have a factory rear bumper and no weight in the rear they will have a ton of rake. All the more level rigs I have seen with this setup (including my old rig that this thread was based on) has weight in the rear. (I had a sleeping platform and rear bumper).
Anyways. Carry on. Glad to see this thread still useful!
Cheers.
Addison
Read back a few pages and lots of people are curious about how much rake they get with the LC 8 wraps and how so many vehicles sit different with the same setup. Something to consider... weight plays a HUGE factor in the rear ride height. The LC coils are not overly stiff (forget the spring rates off the top of my head) and therefore that shoudl be considered. If you have a factory rear bumper and no weight in the rear they will have a ton of rake. All the more level rigs I have seen with this setup (including my old rig that this thread was based on) has weight in the rear. (I had a sleeping platform and rear bumper).
Anyways. Carry on. Glad to see this thread still useful!
Cheers.
Addison
kilowhisky
New member
I just finished mine. This is it totally empty without even a spare. In my mind The rake in the photo looks worse than it really is.
This is:
* 4Runner specific 5100s 2nd notch
* tundra YY/YB
* LC8
* black tokico shocks
The rear is a bit stiffer than I expected.
EDIT: The rear is a LOT stiffer than i expected.
Here's a link to my parts list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yL_xvI8IHgDe9BlZLA6sfNtPfxO8YWWFg6jPLTtsL8U
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Looking for new springs for this setup
Was curious if anyone does brand new OME springs with this frankenstien setup besides going out and finding old springs or new TRD springs. Looking for brand new everything for a build. The runner will have bumpers/rack/carrier the whole thing. Kind of hard to find the correct information.
Was curious if anyone does brand new OME springs with this frankenstien setup besides going out and finding old springs or new TRD springs. Looking for brand new everything for a build. The runner will have bumpers/rack/carrier the whole thing. Kind of hard to find the correct information.
Parting out Tundra parts fit 2000-2006
V8 4.7 engine , auto, 4x4,
Fabtech suspension for toyota Tundra 2000-2006.
Front coilovers FT2000.
rear dirt logic with remote reservoir.
I was wondering if the above setup could work for a 99 4Runner limited as a lift option. Anybody done a similar build?
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V8 4.7 engine , auto, 4x4,
Fabtech suspension for toyota Tundra 2000-2006.
Front coilovers FT2000.
rear dirt logic with remote reservoir.
I was wondering if the above setup could work for a 99 4Runner limited as a lift option. Anybody done a similar build?
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AZBub
New member
look up 4 posts...or read the thread. Or the FAQ's.
[MENTION=63060]rickashay[/MENTION] this thread is the reason I decided to re-spring my 99.
Tundra coils on bottom notch bilsteins up front, ome906 with rancho rs9000x adjustable gas in the rear.
Rides like a full size truck now with ~2" lift! Exactly what I wanted, especially with adjustable rear shocks to dial up for additional weight. Very limited rake, with rear bump stops in.
Many thanks for your shopping list and correct part numbers.
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BoomSticks
Member
Very happy with my Tundra/LC lift. Rides fantastic.
Very little weight in the back, so the rake is expected.
Very little weight in the back, so the rake is expected.
Think I have everything I need. Can anyone make sure I am not forgetting anything?
OME 861 rears.
OME 2883 fronts.
Tundra bilstein 5100
Front - 24-261425
Rear 24-100144
.75" bottom bushings
Monroe 907926 coil spring isolator
Top plates. OEM
Extended brake lines
Diff drop kit
OME 861 rears.
OME 2883 fronts.
Tundra bilstein 5100
Front - 24-261425
Rear 24-100144
.75" bottom bushings
Monroe 907926 coil spring isolator
Top plates. OEM
Extended brake lines
Diff drop kit
umagatti
Junior Member
HELP!!! Which rear shocks should I get???
HELP****
very old thread but this is playing a big role in my lift so thanks to rickashay.
I'm stuck on one last thing right now before I finally install everything. Heres what I'm doing:
Front: Toytec 3" 4runner lift springs(112-620) with tundra adjustable 5100s
Rear: LC 8 wrap with _________ shocks
BASICALLY I can't decide between 5100s or the OEM Tokico black shocks for LC rear!! Can someone explain pros and cons of each please!! I daily drive my 4runner for the most part. Its stock right now but soon getting an arb front bumper(with winch later on maybe), rear swing out bumper but not anytime soon. When daily driving I usually have a cargo box in the back with random stuff like clothes and shoes or whatever and the usually basic tool set. I took of my tow hitch but still have the spare tire. I go off road maybe once a month, twice if I'm lucky lol. Don't really do or at least haven't done anything to where I really need to load up the back with camping gear and sh!t. Most I ever take is extra rain gear and some recovery straps etc. I usually go with multiple rigs and we split up gear anyway. Anyways back to my question. Pros and cons of both rear shocks... based on what I'm doing right now and the armor I'm getting what should I get. I want to do it right the first time.
HELP****
very old thread but this is playing a big role in my lift so thanks to rickashay.
I'm stuck on one last thing right now before I finally install everything. Heres what I'm doing:
Front: Toytec 3" 4runner lift springs(112-620) with tundra adjustable 5100s
Rear: LC 8 wrap with _________ shocks
BASICALLY I can't decide between 5100s or the OEM Tokico black shocks for LC rear!! Can someone explain pros and cons of each please!! I daily drive my 4runner for the most part. Its stock right now but soon getting an arb front bumper(with winch later on maybe), rear swing out bumper but not anytime soon. When daily driving I usually have a cargo box in the back with random stuff like clothes and shoes or whatever and the usually basic tool set. I took of my tow hitch but still have the spare tire. I go off road maybe once a month, twice if I'm lucky lol. Don't really do or at least haven't done anything to where I really need to load up the back with camping gear and sh!t. Most I ever take is extra rain gear and some recovery straps etc. I usually go with multiple rigs and we split up gear anyway. Anyways back to my question. Pros and cons of both rear shocks... based on what I'm doing right now and the armor I'm getting what should I get. I want to do it right the first time.
Road Bull
Senior Member
What's up Christian!
Here's my take. I can only really comment on the Tokico LC black shocks. I have used them with both LC 7 wraps as well as ARB OME 861 coils. To me, they feel like a good batch for either of those coils. I would think that LC 8 wraps would fall somewhere in between the two coils I have run. To me, they are pretty comfortable and a good match for my 861s. There are tons of people on here who run that shock with multiple rear coil offerings.
I find that the ride is pleasant enough. I am not setting any speed records, especially offroad. So if you want to go fast on washboards, this is probably not your combo. But really, I don't think that the Bilsteins would do a lot better going fast on washboards. That is full Icon or King land and a little rich for my blood. I think the Tokicos are popular because they work for a good variety of coils and weights, as well as being a dependable workhorse of a shock that is fairly inexpensive.
I thought I remembered reading someone talking about their Bilstein shocks tending to sway at highway speeds. Don't take that as gospel though. I don't have them and have not had first hand experience with them. It was a long time ago that I remember coming across that, and it could have been something else causing it, but it would be something that I would research if I was looking to get them. I heard that they offer a pretty smooth ride though. If we ever link up for some trail time, you can check my set up out if you like.
For Tokico LC black, check out build pages for [MENTION=116387]Unner[/MENTION] , [MENTION=44220]BigFishAllDay[/MENTION] , [MENTION=28808]psraff[/MENTION] , [MENTION=112755]electroCrunch[/MENTION]
For Bilstein, check out build pages for [MENTION=107971]derpiful[/MENTION] , [MENTION=116470]Tyler James Inc[/MENTION] , [MENTION=109102]MattJakobs[/MENTION] <<has 8 wraps and Bilstein
P.S.
Up to you, but if I were you, I would consider putting the trailer hitch back on. It is stout and can handle getting dragged here and there just fine. If someone rear ends you without it being on, they will do a lot more damage. The rear bumper is just body mounted and wont protect much. The rear hitch can absorb a fair amount of energy, keep the frame solid while offering a little more protection than the bumper.
umagatti
Junior Member
Thanks for the feedback! SO basically from everything i have gathered so far bilstein rides a lot softer and "cadillac" like. and the tokicos were a little stiffer but handle well. So 5100s are good for no added weight while tokicos ride better with weight. Am i right or wrong? and how SOFT is the 5100s 8wrap setup? Im probably gonna leave my sway bars on. I want a smooth ride but dont want to worry about flipping the truck mobbin around the highway or city streets.
Road Bull
Senior Member
I am afraid I can't answer septic questions about ride quality, concerning 5100's. I think MattJakobs has a 5100/8 wrap set up. I am sure if you either asked on his build or sent him a PM, he could give you a better idea about 5100 ride. And currently, he is not running a rear bumper, so ride height and quality would be similar compared to what you would be looking at. Same thing with deripful.
Maybe I have a skewed perspective coming from a "not-smooth-ride" 1994 Toyota 4x4 truck. So my 4runner feels smooth to me. Just ask some of the people I linked for their take on it.
psraff
New member
I had the Bilstein shocks in the back with my 861s and upgraded to the Black LC shocks and would never turn back. But I also have the weight. For me, the Bilsteins were just a bit to bouncy and they heated up A LOT. Maybe something were wrong with mine because I was the only one I ever heard of them heating up like they did, I don't know. But I do know I truly love the 861 and LC Shock combination.
Hi everyone, as you can see I am new to this forum. I am also new to owning a 4runner. I have been reading this forum for about a year now in anticipation of getting a 3rd gen, and now that I have one I am ready to start buying parts to lift it. I am in the same boat as other who are running stock bumpers with plans of putting armor on front and back, so it sounds like tokico would be better choice--is that the consensus? If so, would I still run 5100's up front with Tundra springs? Also, does anyone have a set of LC8's for sale?
Thanks!
Thanks!
naturerunning
New member
Craigslist will be your best bet for LC coils. I got my 8 wraps for $75....i'm still waiting to lift my runner too. I have tundra struts pulled from a junkyard and 8 wrap coils, just need to get rear shocks....anyone have the LC shocks part number? price? Thanks in advance
