Rollover report, 3 vs 4 gen safety musings

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think of it as the penalty box for driving stupidity...

-Charlie

Excellent. I have another name for those vehicles that ends in box, but the first word shouldn't be posted here... :violin:

Our daughters are not super tall or plump, so are perfectly comfortable anywhere. A 3rd Gen is luxo for them. The boys and I are well above 6' and most comfortable in full size pickups.
 
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I don't doubt my careful personality contributes to my safe driving practices, but still. (not saying I can't make mistakes; I know I'm not perfect.)

You're textbook K-selected, a very good thing in my book. Like Jordan Peterson?

All good points. We're in violent agreement.
 
Glad your son is okay the truck did it's job and can be replaced. kids make mistakes i ve made my fair share when I was young been in a couple motorcycle accidents but "what doesn't kill you makes you wiser". Although in my case it took a few years.
 
what doesn't kill you makes you wiser


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And my personal favorite quote of his:


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I love these and my favorite

“It is not the length of life, but the depth of life. He who is not everyday conquering some fear has not learned the secret of life.”
 
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May I suggest he go to a driving school. Even an introductory to driving class, at a race track. This way he might have a better understanding of the chain of events that lead up to this and how to best avoid it.

Bot trying to be a jerk, just being honest.

Glad the boy is OK.


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Hi,

Glad that the kid is safe. But a driving school is always a good idea. I worked as an instructor back in 90s. Somehow, trainees were modest and harmless back then, now my colleagues are grumbling all the time because of the speed - everyone wants to show off and when they have learnt at least something, the want the adrenaline, the rush or whatever.


But you never know how susceptible it may be to roll over.
Anyway, for those who are thinking about a driving school - starting with off-road driving schools: Offroad driving schools or just choosing the local: drivingschoolnear.me

John
 
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IIRC, early 00s regulations were required for stronger roofs by manufacturers. That's why newer cars have thicc pillars and huge blindspots. I'd imagine that a 4th gen has better rollover survival than a 3rd gen but if you're concerned about safety, a sedan isn't going to roll like a body-on-frame SUV will.

Another thing to consider is that the driving dynamics of a truck with a short wheelbase is probably what caused the loss of control. I have experienced death wobble twice so far in my 3rd gen and I never have before with my pickup trucks. Might be back a little too far for some but the Ford Bronco II (and the Explorer even ignoring the Firestone controversy) was infamous in the media for rollovers because of the short wheelbase and high ground clearance paired with drivers who were not experienced driving such a vehicle.
 
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