seanxgodfrey
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I'm sure its done, I've tried searching all over and cannot find if anyone has done the same, is it a bad idea? or will it make my ride smoother ?! pics would be nice :wave:
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Running 5100's on stock coils?
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shadow247
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It can and has been done. It is an easy way to lift the front without spending big bucks.
I am running Monroe shocks meant for a Tundra with my 99 Tall Coils. The ride is firmer than stock, but feels more controlled on the highway. I like the ride much better than when I had the TRD springs up front. Combined with longer front sway bar links (rears from a 2ng gen on the front) body roll is greatly reduced. The stock links leave the sway bar at an angle, the flatter the sway bar is, the better it controls body roll.
I am running Monroe shocks meant for a Tundra with my 99 Tall Coils. The ride is firmer than stock, but feels more controlled on the highway. I like the ride much better than when I had the TRD springs up front. Combined with longer front sway bar links (rears from a 2ng gen on the front) body roll is greatly reduced. The stock links leave the sway bar at an angle, the flatter the sway bar is, the better it controls body roll.
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seanxgodfrey
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I'm not exactly looking to just lift the front, just because I don't want my front end a lot higher than the back, I was curious if it was going to give me a smoother ride and just so I can start to get my lift started and thought it might make my ride smoother!
shadow247
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It will definitely improve the ride. Just leave the shocks at the lowest setting and you will have stock height. Your main choice is whether to get shocks for a Tundra or Tacoma? The Tundras have 5 height settings, while the Tacomas have 3, or maybe I have that backwards. Hopefully someone chimes in to correct me. The Tundra's are a bit firmer than the Tacomas, as they are obviously meant for a heavier vehicle. I am quite happy with the firmness of the front end since going to the Tundra shocks.
seanxgodfrey
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well im later going to add full lift, coils, 285 or 255's maybe some armor but not much..
Brian757
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[MENTION=74967]seanxgodfrey[/MENTION]: I agree with [MENTION=80102]shadow247[/MENTION]. This is because the Bilstein 5100's are adjustable shocks and can also be joined with an adjustable coil for coilovers. They have 3 notches and the first is comprable to no lift(Your factory shocks), next notch is roughly a 1" lift and 3rd notch is roughly a 2.5" lift.
Anyime you change out a shock that is WAY overdue, your going to feel a tremendous difference. Just the stiffness you will notice on turns. Also, the Bilstein gas pressure shock also absorbs and dissipates heat quicker so your shocks respond longer to extended periods of bumps. The nice thing about Bilsteins is their adjustability and utmost, their quality.
Good luck. Oh, and Im running factory coils on Bilstein 5100's up front.
Anyime you change out a shock that is WAY overdue, your going to feel a tremendous difference. Just the stiffness you will notice on turns. Also, the Bilstein gas pressure shock also absorbs and dissipates heat quicker so your shocks respond longer to extended periods of bumps. The nice thing about Bilsteins is their adjustability and utmost, their quality.
Good luck. Oh, and Im running factory coils on Bilstein 5100's up front.
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seanxgodfrey
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my shocks aren't exactly shot, but i figured since im going to piece together my lift, why not get something i can put on the rig first ya know?
Brian757
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Even though they might not necessarily be shot, you will definitely notice the difference after you install the Bilsteins. Also, I am not quite sure what you have now so i really cant set a comparison. Nor do I know how many of those roughly 230K miles are on your current shocks. But I do promise you will like the quality of the Bilsteins. Remember what [MENTION=80102]shadow247[/MENTION] said that Tundras are firmer and Tacomas are a little less firmer, for obvious reasons. I have the Tacomas and I love my entire setup. I would do 100% of what ive done, all over again.
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seanxgodfrey
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for sure , i'll keep that in mind, as long as the tacomas dont look to small once i get my lc wraps in the back after all is said and done after 6 months of building hahaah
Brian757
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Im not quite sure what you mean by small. Do you mean physical size?
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/111871-real-life-comparison-tacoma-5100s-vs-tundra-5100s.html
I currently have FJ Superflex coils and they add 2" alone. Also, they are 8 wraps. My Bilsteins look just fine. Total, I have a 7" lift on my 4runner. So what are you saying?!?! I kid, I kid
seanxgodfrey
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Im not quite sure what you mean by small. Do you mean physical size?
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/111871-real-life-comparison-tacoma-5100s-vs-tundra-5100s.html
I currently have FJ Superflex coils and they add 2" alone. Also, they are 8 wraps. My Bilsteins look just fine. Total, I have a 7" lift on my 4runner. So what are you saying?!?! I kid, I kid
i'm just not a fan of rake or atleast large rake if were being honest here :croc: but i'd want these right ? 1995-200 Toyota Tacoma - Bilstein 5100 Series Leveling Strut / Shock (Adjustable 0" to 2.5" FRONT Lift) - F4-BE5-D558-T0 and what a reservoir shocks ?!
seanxgodfrey
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scratch that, im going to do the tundras
Brian757
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Thats absolutely fine. We cant help you get what you want unless your honest. Dont let me tell you what you want on your truck. I was just shooting you info. Reservoirs are almost an extra shock that is linked to your primary shocks, they provide more gas and compression for longer trailing.
I prefer a little bit of rake. But if you want it leveled, then defintely do it. I can always level my truck by buying the adjustable coils on the front end. Sort of tackling my maintenance right now(suspension components, timing belt, serp belt, pulleys, thermostat, water pump, ball joints, tie rods, etc.)
Brian757
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Also, my reasoning behind Tundras vs Tacomas are that if you are a really light 4runner, the compression of the Tundras will be so stiff that you will feel a lot of road bumps. The Tacoma Bilsteins are more designed for our 4runners as Tacomas are roughly our weight. The Tacoma shocks will absorb more road bump but will be softer offroad. It all depends on what you primarily use your vehicle for. I do not believe there is any physical size difference between the two, just compression ratios.
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seanxgodfrey
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Thats absolutely fine. We cant help you get what you want unless your honest. Dont let me tell you what you want on your truck. I was just shooting you info. Reservoirs are almost an extra shock that is linked to your primary shocks, they provide more gas and compression for longer trailing.
I prefer a little bit of rake. But if you want it leveled, then defintely do it. I can always level my truck by buying the adjustable coils on the front end. Sort of tackling my maintenance right now(suspension components, timing belt, serp belt, pulleys, thermostat, water pump, ball joints, tie rods, etc.)
No I love what you're telling me, i just looked at richkashay's trd tundra/lc lift and thats what im going to shoot for so i figure why not get the tundras, I'm just worried its going to be to stiff for me, I understand I'm driving a 4runner and not a caddy but a smooth ride would be nice! Would the reservoir be good for the back of the runner or should i just stick with the 5100's all around?!
Brian757
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Again, it is all about what you will primarily use your vehicle for. I do know [MENTION=63060]rickashay[/MENTION] wheels his runner. Its all preference.
He also still needs to make me projector headlights!
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seanxgodfrey
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Again, it is all about what you will primarily use your vehicle for. I do know [MENTION=63060]rickashay[/MENTION] wheels his runner. Its all preference.
He also still needs to make me projector headlights!
I plan on wheeling with my runner atleast once a week , I did twice last week and just plan on doing it more and more, i also plan on keeping this till it literally falls apart, I mean I'm sure if it's too stiff i can then find someone to trade, I just want a smoother ride than what i've got now
seanxgodfrey
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Again, it is all about what you will primarily use your vehicle for. I do know [MENTION=63060]rickashay[/MENTION] wheels his runner. Its all preference.
He also still needs to make me projector headlights!
I just LOVE the look of this picture
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/retrospectphoto/6171127755/" title="20110920-IMG_0268-2 by RickaShay24, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6156/6171127755_7d05c2af2b_z.jpg" width="640" height="427" alt="20110920-IMG_0268-2"></a>
afg10000
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I'm with ya man -did exactly what you're doing. started my build slow but had to replace shocks (stock with 120k on them). they were gone. put the 3 setting 5100's on and left the stock coils on. like the others said, immediate difference just due to the fact of replacing a brick with a quality shock. I don't see any issue with leaving the stock coils on as long as they're in good shape. I'm going to finish purchasing and installing the rest of my lift next month and knew very well that I'd have to disassemble the coilovers again to raise the seat setting, but it's all brand new now so it shouldn't be an issue. I'd say tear it up. affordable way to start-just make sure you order the bushing set. also, I replaced sway bar/end link bushings with ES while I was under there. that also helped -
getlost
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Hey man
I ran tacoma 5100's on the highest setting with a 1/4" top out spacer with stock coils for one year. I had 1" of rake with ome stock load coils and Bilstein hd shocks in the back. My ride was quite stiff. I had zero brake dive on the front. I put a badlands bumper on and it did not settle down at all. I have since swapped in ome 883 coils and dropped to the lowest notch and it is a softer ride. I have 1/2" of rake. Good luck with your choice. Here is before and after pics.
Hey man
I ran tacoma 5100's on the highest setting with a 1/4" top out spacer with stock coils for one year. I had 1" of rake with ome stock load coils and Bilstein hd shocks in the back. My ride was quite stiff. I had zero brake dive on the front. I put a badlands bumper on and it did not settle down at all. I have since swapped in ome 883 coils and dropped to the lowest notch and it is a softer ride. I have 1/2" of rake. Good luck with your choice. Here is before and after pics.
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