Satellite Radio & Urban Runner

[captdbg]

Has anyone hooked sirius or xm to the tom tom on the new urban runner (08) if so any problems or tips thanks

 

[SubSonic]

No, I can't find anything on doing that as of yet. I use a Sirius Plug and Play radio unit, a Sportster 4, and there is an interface available to connect those to old-style JBL navigation system quite easily. You can also get the same interface and the SCC1 Sirius tuner to connect to the old nav system. That gives you sat radio through the factory system, that is controlled through the factory radio controls - including the redundant steering wheel controls. Using a fixed-tuner like the SCC1 means that you cannot move it from one vehicle to another, or use it in your house or boat, like you can with the plug-n-play units.

I just did a few minutes worth or hard core Googling on the Tomtom deal, and Sirius/XM, and cannot find a single instance of information regarding what you will need to connect Sirius or XM to it. Is there a built-in tuner that you just have to activate? I didn't think so since the photos at Toyota.com show "SatRadioReady" logo, which typically indicates you have to add it yourself or through the dealer or local audio shop, but I don't know for certain.

Email these folks with your questions:
[email protected]

They're very helpful and know ahead of the public what is available and what is compatible with various SiriusXM radios. Don't worry that their name used to be The Sirius Store, they also sell and consult on XM products since the merger. No, I do not work there. Even when they answer your questions, which they will, you don't have to buy there.

You may also check out the best digital radio (Sirius and XM) forum that I've found. Post your question in the "Install Bay" section. The TSS Radio guys monitor that section and offer a great amount of help.

http://www.digitalradiocentral.com/forum.php

 

[SubSonic]

OK. Found some data. Apparently the Tom Tom radio isn't as universal as the factory JBL Nav System and requires a specific Sirius tuner for sat-rad operation.

The unit is actually a Tom Tom Eclipse AVN 2210p radio. From what I can find, it used to take what was called an SIR-ECL1 Sirius Connect radio tuner (for Sirius, this was all that was listed as compatible at Eclipse's web site - Can't find any compatible XM units out there, though theymay exist).

The bad news is, that the SIR-ECL1, according to both Crutchfield and TSS-Radio, has been discontinued. I assume there is a new ECL2 in the works, or out there on the market, but neither of those 2 retailers listed them on their website.

The good news is, whatever sat radio unit is workable with the AVN2210p radio/navsystem is controlled through the radio, and therefore, also by the steering wheel controls if you have them.

 

[EH007]

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the Urban Runner's head unit? I might be installing an Eclipse AVN6620 with a Parrot Bluetooth unit into a friend's Urban Runner and it would be nice to know which wires in the harness go to the speed sensor and the reverse switch. Other than that, it should be a very easy installation.

My friend hates his factory head unit and fell in love with my setup, so it looks like we'll be working on it one of these weekends when it warms up a little.

 

[captdbg]

Subsonic thank you for that info i went to clutchfield looks like the tom tom avn2210p is now a discontinued unit from what i am reading nobody seems to like them i am wondering if you can hide the sirius unit behind the dash got some more homework to do again thanks

 

[SubSonic]

Yes, you can hide the Sirius unit. If the Tom Tom is what you end up staying with, and you can find a SIR-ELC1 or whatever replaced it, they aren't very large and can be hidden - probably even in the same area where I hid my interface which is below the glove box. There's a removable panel there that already contains a few of the T4R's computers that has more room left for stuff like this. All you'll have to do is connect the tuner to the head unit, mount your Sirius antenna and route its wire to the Sirius tuner. The tuner draws its power from the factory harness. The tuner then is controlled just like your radio, including preset ability, and the sound comes through the radio via the control DIN cable...and the sound quality rivals or exceeds a direct audio (RCA) connection's quality IMO.

I was also able to hide my plug and play, in the upper/hidden glove box, by laying it on its back. Works great, you can't see it, and I can still yank it out for use in my Tundra, house or workshop or whatever.

In fact, I highly recommend going the route of hidden Sirius tuner (of whatever style, fixed or plug-n-play), with a factory-style interface to the navi-system. Having all your audio controls in one place is very nice. To the unknowing, it will appear that your T4R just "came" with Sirius or XM from new.