Screwed by the stealership?

[White4runner]

So my '06, 4.7, 87.5K was at the dealership for a week(long story) Went to pick it up today and apparently it needed a jump start. The lot guy used a jump pack(probably at 50a) and had the polarity reversed on the battery terminals. Guess he wasn't watching the sparks flying? Anyway, the dealer is claiming they just have to replace the main fuse, although they say that they do not have one in stock?! I think they're full of it, because what kind of dealer wouldn't keep a stock of $6 fuses, especially since they now have to cover my rental. I'm thinking the pcm or some other more expensive part bore the brunt. What do you guys think could be other possibilities? TYIA

Bob

 

[graciedad04]

Usually a master fuse is a completely different set up than most regular fuses(most of my familiarity with them is on honda cars, since that's what I work on(and I haven't blown one up on any of my toyotas yet)). On most honda cars the main fuse is around 20 to 40 and different for each body style and make. So the dealer doesn't stock them because they are not a common use part.

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[White4runner]

Usually a master fuse is a completely different set up than most regular fuses(most of my familiarity with them is on honda cars, since that's what I work on(and I haven't blown one up on any of my toyotas yet)). On most honda cars the main fuse is around 20 to 40 and different for each body style and make. So the dealer doesn't stock them because they are not a common use part.

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Thank you. Off a quick Google, they're 6-8 bucks. I'm sure they're not blown too often, but I can't have enough information.

 

[Montego Murph]

Backtracking a bit, how is it that you feel you're getting screwed?

If the guy did manage to short out big-ticket things, I'd say they would want to repair it quickly and quietly.

Now, if they try to pull the old "we bought the part, you pay for the labor" or vice versa.... that's when I'd growl.

 

[White4runner]

Backtracking a bit, how is it that you feel you're getting screwed?

If the guy did manage to short out big-ticket things, I'd say they would want to repair it quickly and quietly.

Now, if they try to pull the old "we bought the part, you pay for the labor" or vice versa.... that's when I'd growl.

Well, I do have the question mark at the end of the thread heading. I was talking to mechanic friends, admittedly not 'Yota, and they thought the same thing; odd they wouldn't have the fuse on hand. I was trying to see if by that mechanism, my pcm could be the real issue and they're just trying to cover tracks. That was pretty much it

 

[MATTPENN21]

My .02

Well, I do have the question mark at the end of the thread heading. I was talking to mechanic friends, admittedly not 'Yota, and they thought the same thing; odd they wouldn't have the fuse on hand. I was trying to see if by that mechanism, my pcm could be the real issue and they're just trying to cover tracks. That was pretty much it

I used work at a dealership and our lot porters always seemed to do that. in reality maybe 1-2 times every other month. We never would stock them either. Every model car is different part number for the main fuse. Just to many to stock.

And keep in mind, you drive a Toyota, fuses were designed to protect components. In my 15 years at a dealership I never once saw a battery jumped backwards cause ecm failure on a Toyota.

Also most (I know the one I worked for) are actually pretty honest, if they screw something up they take care of it and tell you what was replaced.
I can't speak for everyone of them though.

 

[oljedi11950]

What dealer ?

 

[jfry008]

Does that shorten the life of the battery? What a moron. Maybe you can get a new battery at a large discount through them.

 

[White4runner]

What dealer ?

If it's not resolved correctly, I'll post that. Just giving them the chance. I tried to call your friend, left a message but no call back? Initially sent a text, but it's a landline?

 

[Ed_C]

No they're probably not out to screw you

In my past life as a Lexus dealership tech (almost as long as the previous commenter) I've also never seen an ECU failure caused by crossed jumper cables, and we usually didn't stock those large fuses either. The fuses are there to protect the more expensive electrical components.

They're already covering your rental car, I wouldn't worry about it and let them fix it.

 

[oljedi11950]

If it's not resolved correctly, I'll post that. Just giving them the chance. I tried to call your friend, left a message but no call back? Initially sent a text, but it's a landline?

Really ? Let me see wtf ! :noidea:

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Usually what happens if you blow the 100~120amp Alternator Fuse (on newer Toyota's this is actually part of a Fusible Link Assembly that looks like a giant blade fuse thing), as well as probably a few other fuses.

The good news is that Toyota's are fairly well protected in regards to electronics and I haven't seen an ECM or any module take a shit from being jumped backwards in a long time.

Our vehicles use a large main fuse rather than a more modern fusible link array, but the process to replace it is mostly the same, you need to crack open the fuse block and unbolt the main fuse from the fuse block to install a new one.

I'd maybe have them test the battery, it may be junk... I had one guy once charge a battery backwards and reverse polarity. Always heard that was possible, never saw one in person before then.