Should he have used the locker?

Yep..the truck has enough built in systems to override "old school mashing the skinny pedal down".

he would have done us (and him)a big favor in before heading off road, he would have familiarized himself with some of the new systems, and what makes them work.

also...street tires munch wang as far as a test..:wtf:
 
As an aside I've had a breather tube extension crack on my FJ80. It was a hairline crack in the line, but it was enough to get water and some sandy guck into the rear diff and foul it pretty bad. It was a mud hole no deeper than "genius" was in.

It took me the better part of 5 weekends to undo all the damage and get her running again.

Not that it's the responsibility of Toyota to ensure that owners of their vehicles don't do stupid crap like this, but after installing breather tubes on all of my serious duty 4x4s, I've wondered why they don't come from the factory that way.

I mean for ages Toyotas had that u-turn in their exhaust pipes to keep water from backflowing into the system.
 
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Video should be retitled, the secret life of an auto writer/videographer.
And why you should never buy an "executive driven" company demo, or a press car for that matter. Still, compared to other things I've seen, this is mild.
 
Intruder said:
He had the multi-terrain select on, which uses ATRAC. You can actually hear the ATRAC going off. He should've used less skinny pedal. I don't think anything short of studded tires would've gotten him out easily.
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so what's the difference in using Atrac ONLY vs multi-terrain then? i doubt Toyota would have 2 different system do the exact same thing.. multi-terrain uses the abs in different ways for a type of situation.. in my opinion.. Atrac only cares about keeping all 4 wheels spinning simultaneously using the brakes as needed.
 
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Watched some of his other reviews, turns out he drove that area all of the time and knew pretty much exactly where he was. Pilot, rdx, ridgeline, Lexus, vw, Kia, crv's you name it he's driven them all in this location. All with the same careless, abrasive and aloof style with poor explanations of how the different vehicle systems function...waaaaaaaaa my gopro is gone!
 
adam2562 said:
so what's the difference in using Atrac ONLY vs multi-terrain then? i doubt Toyota would have 2 different system do the exact same thing.. multi-terrain uses the abs in different ways for a type of situation.. in my opinion.. Atrac only cares about keeping all 4 wheels spinning simultaneously using the brakes as needed.
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As far as I know the multi-terrain adjust "aggressiveness" of A-TRAC. I.e. allows different amount of wheel slip before activate brake on that wheel. Folks will correct me if I'm wrong : )
 
scanny said:
As far as I know the multi-terrain adjust "aggressiveness" of A-TRAC. I.e. allows different amount of wheel slip before activate brake on that wheel. Folks will correct me if I'm wrong : )
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yea that's pretty much what i was getting at.
 
Canazes9 said:
Too long, didn't watch the whole thing. What I looked at, the locker may have helped, but that's ignoring the #1 Problem - if you want to drive off-road, get some tires that are designed for it, not street tires.

One more additional comment - that video is a text book example of how people get water in their rear diffs. Odds are high that he got water in their if he didn't have the rear diff breather mod.

David
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For what application would a "rear diff breather mod"?
Crossing cold waters? Just wondering, I have seen that done before but never really knew why it was essential.
 
DannyLlama said:
For what application would a "rear diff breather mod"?
Crossing cold waters? Just wondering, I have seen that done before but never really knew why it was essential.
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It's about getting the rear diff wet period. A sudden dunking regardless of outside temps, makes it more likely. Water doesn't have to be especially cold or icy. If you were driving off-road in the middle of summer and you had to cross a little stagnant pond where the summer temps had pushed the water temps to warm bath levels, the temp difference between the rear diff and the relatively cooler water will still be there.

A sudden plunge into the mud/water creates the strong vacuum. Then, he spins the poop out of it, back and forth having extended play time in the soup, all with the strong vacuum in the rear diff and the seals at least partially submersed. A little water sucked into the rear diff will eventually destroy it, there doesn't have to be a lot of water in there, nor is it likely you will notice anything until the damage is done.

If you drive off-road you will eventually dunk your rear differential. It's more likely you will dunk it at least several times a year. If you don't have the rear breather mod done you will eventually get water in the rear diff. If it's just a little water and you check/change the fluid regularly you may get by w/o a problem for a long time. Eventually, Murphy's law may catch up to you. The rear diff breather mod is cheap and easy and provides some extra peace of mind.

David
 
Canazes9 said:
It's about getting the rear diff wet period. A sudden dunking regardless of outside temps, makes it more likely. Water doesn't have to be especially cold or icy. If you were driving off-road in the middle of summer and you had to cross a little stagnant pond where the summer temps had pushed the water temps to warm bath levels, the temp difference between the rear diff and the relatively cooler water will still be there.

A sudden plunge into the mud/water creates the strong vacuum. Then, he spins the poop out of it, back and forth having extended play time in the soup, all with the strong vacuum in the rear diff and the seals at least partially submersed. A little water sucked into the rear diff will eventually destroy it, there doesn't have to be a lot of water in there, nor is it likely you will notice anything until the damage is done.

If you drive off-road you will eventually dunk your rear differential. It's more likely you will dunk it at least several times a year. If you don't have the rear breather mod done you will eventually get water in the rear diff. If it's just a little water and you check/change the fluid regularly you may get by w/o a problem for a long time. Eventually, Murphy's law may catch up to you. The rear diff breather mod is cheap and easy and provides some extra peace of mind.

David
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If it's such a critical mod, why doesn't Toyota engineer the truck with a "breather"? Are there con's to the mod?
 
DannyLlama said:
If it's such a critical mod, why doesn't Toyota engineer the truck with a "breather"? Are there con's to the mod?
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I wish I knew! The front diff has a breather, run up nice in high on the firewall inside the engine compartment along with the transmission, transfer case and actuator...

There are no negatives that I'm aware of.

David
 
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