should i buy this winch?

That is really bad advice. For the money spent on that bumper, the vender should be willing to make adjustments to make it fit. Otherwise I would go with a different vendor for a front bumper.

That's crazy talk. ODL is in Riverside, CA and the OP is in Evergreen, CO. For the time, supplies, and work put into building a bumper his prices aren't anything outrageous.

Exactly cj80cruiser, agreed 100%.

Dan.3 you think he should just pull the bumper off and send it back and tell ODL to make it fit his used $200 winch? I wish you were in the same situation. By the way, pretty much every comment you've made on this forum is absolutely f***ing stupid, comments directed at other members and myself, you're obviously too much of a ***** to even respond to feedback from the dumb shit you've posted in the first place. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
 
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Exactly cj80cruiser, agreed 100%.

Dan.3 you think he should just pull the bumper off and send it back and tell ODL to make it fit his used $200 winch? I wish you were in the same situation. By the way, pretty much every comment you've made on this forum is absolutely f***ing stupid, comments directed at other members and myself, you're obviously too much of a ***** to even respond to feedback from the dumb shit you've posted in the first place. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

thank you! [MENTION=56044]downpour11[/MENTION]..
anyways i know its not stolen it a kid who i went to highschool with i saw it on his jeep and his parents bought it for him. And if it doesn't fit its going to my buddy who had an addicted offroad bumper. But i really want it to fit and i might consider busting out the plasma and "making it fit" we will see what ODL says!
PS i love my ODL bumper never getting rid of that thing!
 
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Exactly cj80cruiser, agreed 100%.

Dan.3 you think he should just pull the bumper off and send it back and tell ODL to make it fit his used $200 winch? I wish you were in the same situation. By the way, pretty much every comment you've made on this forum is absolutely f***ing stupid, comments directed at other members and myself, you're obviously too much of a ***** to even respond to feedback from the dumb shit you've posted in the first place. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Dude, your string is showing!!! You need to chill! Just helping another forum member from bad advice. Do you not realize what winch that is and how much it is brand new???? I would definitely pull it off and send it back. If ODL said they wouldnt make the adjustments and all sales are final, I would sell the bumper and use that money towards a bumper that winch could mount too than to buy a lesser winch. I dont less how it is better to sell a pretty damn good winch to get a lesser winch. No need to act like an internet tough guy when everyone knows you are not in real life and not willing to prove it. Seriously what the point of trying to intimidate me when your in CA and Im in IL. And I make "f***ing stupid, comments"??
 
Dude, your string is showing!!! You need to chill! Just helping another forum member from bad advice. Do you not realize what winch that is and how much it is brand new???? I would definitely pull it off and send it back. If ODL said they wouldnt make the adjustments and all sales are final, I would sell the bumper and use that money towards a bumper that winch could mount too than to buy a lesser winch. I dont less how it is better to sell a pretty damn good winch to get a lesser winch. No need to act like an internet tough guy when everyone knows you are not in real life and not willing to prove it. Seriously what the point of trying to intimidate me when your in CA and Im in IL. And I make "f***ing stupid, comments"??

Yup 100% internet fighter, as everyone obviously knows. No one's trying to intimidate anyone here. Just calling you out on your BS posts, yeah you make "f***ing stupid comments". Talk to ya later bud.

[MENTION=88235]toykidd[/MENTION] it's a win-win. If it doesn't fit the bumper, you can sell it for double what you got it.
 
Yup 100% internet fighter, as everyone obviously knows. No one's trying to intimidate anyone here. Just calling you out on your BS posts, yeah you make "f***ing stupid comments". Talk to ya later bud.

[MENTION=88235]toykidd[/MENTION] it's a win-win. If it doesn't fit the bumper, you can sell it for double what you got it.

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well if it doesn't fit its going on my buddy's truck as much as i would love to double or triple my profit.. if it goes on his truck he is my wheeling wingman so i get to reap the benefits either way.
 
Dude, your string is showing!!! You need to chill! Just helping another forum member from bad advice. Do you not realize what winch that is and how much it is brand new???? I would definitely pull it off and send it back. If ODL said they wouldnt make the adjustments and all sales are final, I would sell the bumper and use that money towards a bumper that winch could mount too than to buy a lesser winch. I dont less how it is better to sell a pretty damn good winch to get a lesser winch. No need to act like an internet tough guy when everyone knows you are not in real life and not willing to prove it. Seriously what the point of trying to intimidate me when your in CA and Im in IL. And I make "f***ing stupid, comments"??

Come on man shipping prices are ridiculous and you can't expect outdoor logic to take the hit on this. This is one of those times when you have to and I quote "fwiw..... hard'n the fawk up" and mod your junk yourself or sell your bumper.
 
well if it doesn't fit its going on my buddy's truck as much as i would love to double or triple my profit.. if it goes on his truck he is my wheeling wingman so i get to reap the benefits either way.

Haha! You keep saying the same things and people keep making suggestions like your not even talking. I wish you the best with it. All I can say is pull the trigger on the purchase and then figure everything out. Just keep the winch around :) if your buddy has it, like you said, your still reaping the benefits of it.

[MENTION=83639]Dan.3[/MENTION]: I see what your saying about staying on top of companies but it just isn't practical. Say a typical resale of that Warn is $850-$1000. He buys it for $200. Outdoor Logic will not pay for his bumper to be shipped back. It will be a heavy package to ship. He will probably pay $215 (Residential) both ways so $430 in just shipping. Then he pays ODL to correct the bumper, maybe another $200-$250. He has to wait for his bumper and he doesnt even know that itll fit the truck once he gets it. There is just too much riding on it.
 
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That is really bad advice. For the money spent on that bumper, the vender should be willing to make adjustments to make it fit. Otherwise I would go with a different vendor for a front bumper.

I'm gonna go ahead and add some gasoline to the fire here... you obviously don't grasp the concept here. You're input is useless at best. You may be able to help out in other threads, but this one wasn't your cup of tea. Just stop posting.
 
That is really bad advice. For the money spent on that bumper, the vender should be willing to make adjustments to make it fit. Otherwise I would go with a different vendor for a front bumper.

do you know what your talking about!?!?!? that winch will not fit in any plate bumper, ARB, ODL, Shrockworks, CBI, Perkins... the list goes on. that winch has an integrated solenoid pack and is designed to be mounted in the open. its not the vendors fault... there is more than one style of winch, this one just so happens to not be suited for plate bumpers.


op you need a winch with a remote solenoid pack like an M8000, or an XD9000(not an XD9000i -the "I" stands for integrated) or a XP9.5 ect., they all have a removable remote solenoid pack that makes the winch more compact.
 
Haha! You keep saying the same things and people keep making suggestions like your not even talking. I wish you the best with it. All I can say is pull the trigger on the purchase and then figure everything out. Just keep the winch around :) if your buddy has it, like you said, your still reaping the benefits of it.

[MENTION=83639]Dan.3[/MENTION]: I see what your saying about staying on top of companies but it just isn't practical. Say a typical resale of that Warn is $850-$1000. He buys it for $200. Outdoor Logic will not pay for his bumper to be shipped back. It will be a heavy package to ship. He will probably pay $215 (Residential) both ways so $430 in just shipping. Then he pays ODL to correct the bumper, maybe another $200-$250. He has to wait for his bumper and he doesnt even know that itll fit the truck once he gets it. There is just too much riding on it.

In my opinion this thread is done since the OP has already stated what his plans are, but If I dont respond to quotes, Im a *****. Apparently I was not clear in the beginning with what I was suggesting. This is what I was getting at: If I didnt have any fab skills and had to pay $600 for a bumper that down the line could accommodate a pretty damn good winch I would be alittle pissed, but apparently thats just me. When it comes to wheeling and armor, sometimes you have to put function and durability ahead of aesthetics, but again, thats just me. IF I were the OP I would gladly pay $215 to have a $600 bumper sent back to fit an xd9000i that I picked up for only $200. I would look at it as as getting that winch for $415 which is still a hell of a deal. I would call ODL and tell them I just picked up this winch and I really like the bumper. I would ask if it would be possible to have my bumper set up to accommodate the xd9000i and sent back without paying any extra. I havent heard bad things about the customer service from ODL. For all we know, his customer service could be underrated, and he would say if you send it back to him, he would mod it and ship it back. If ODL says no, all sales are final, that understandable. Then it is what it is. ODL has gots ta eat too. Just say thanks for your time. At this point a decision will have to be made which the OP has already done.

I have been wheeling for 6 years. For some on here that might not even equal the half the years they have been wheeling. Point is, I do know what Im talking about. Unfortunately here is the midwest its very tight trails with A LOT of trees and mud. I have seen a number of people, who go out with their brand new to them wheeler and get a bargin winch, go for the first mud hole they see get buried to the frame, pull the winch cable and it fails the first time they use it. Not all bargin winches do, but for me one is to many for winching. I would think it would be the same in the mountains on the rocks. When it comes to winch, that is something that you do not want to skimp on. I would only trust Warn since I have personally never seen one fail. I have a buddy who has had his xd9000i for about 7 -8 years. Pulls his 5500lbs rig any time. I would treat a winch like you would a LBJ or water pump. When it comes time to replace it, do you go with pep boys brand or OEM. Sure pepboys may last you the life of the vehicle, but if it fails, it most likely always happens at a time when you need it the most and the end result can be catastrophic.

Ask anyone on any forum that has been wheeling for a while, for $200 would they rather have a brand new bargin winch for a used warn xd9000i, I willing to be that everyone would take the xd9000i.

When it comes to winches, for peace of mine I would be happy to a little more rather than try save or make a buck. It the end, it can cost you more.

I never realized that this forum was so sensitive. For all the people who got all butt hurt over my suggestions, I apologize that I wasnt clear enough in the beginning. I admit that was my mistake. From this point on, I will be more clear with future posts. If Im still a ***** and thats still a stupid advice then so be it.:peace:
 
do you know what your talking about!?!?!? that winch will not fit in any plate bumper, ARB, ODL, Shrockworks, CBI, Perkins... the list goes on. that winch has an integrated solenoid pack and is designed to be mounted in the open. its not the vendors fault... there is more than one style of winch, this one just so happens to not be suited for plate bumpers.


op you need a winch with a remote solenoid pack like an M8000, or an XD9000(not an XD9000i -the "I" stands for integrated) or a XP9.5 ect., they all have a removable remote solenoid pack that makes the winch more compact.

Just to be clear, I dont ever recall saying it had to be a plate bumper. There are other vendors that make other bumpers that are not plate. I didnt realize I had to specify that it had to be a vendor that makes tube bumper. From my perspective, telling someone that they will need to sell a good winch without pointing out that there are other options for bumpers that the OP might not be aware of is bad advice. The OP has already made it known that he is not going to stray from his bumper. If I would have known that ahead of time, I would have saved everyone alot of apparent frustration. Again, I apologize for the misunderstanding.
 
Fun thread.

The bumper was designed around an Engo winch and may fit others. It hasn't been tested on others, but I'm told it should fit smaller Warns with the removable solenoid box I don't know if that means modification or not.

Now that winch you have will get into the grill area if the bumper top was cut, so cutting the top won't work. The winch plate sits on the frame rails so modifying the plate won't work either.
Our bumper was not designed for that. Its a nice winch, but I've really only seen the Jeep crowd run it.
 
Fun thread.

The bumper was designed around an Engo winch and may fit others. It hasn't been tested on others, but I'm told it should fit smaller Warns with the removable solenoid box I don't know if that means modification or not.

Now that winch you have will get into the grill area if the bumper top was cut, so cutting the top won't work. The winch plate sits on the frame rails so modifying the plate won't work either.
Our bumper was not designed for that. Its a nice winch, but I've really only seen the Jeep crowd run it.

and a lot of older toyota guys run the winch on tube bumpers, in fact if the OP had a tube bumper the winch would work fine with no issues. integrated solenoid winches are made to be exposed to the elements ie out in the open like on a tube bumper or on the bumper of an older land cruiser or j**p, or on a mobile mount/carrier.

-all winches, Warn, sh*tybuilt, Ramsey, SuperWinch, Engo, Milemarker, what have you all have the same bolt patter as far as mounting is concerned. so if it fits one, it will fit another. Engo winches are nice, i know the owner and his father was the inverter and owner/founder of Milermarker. while Engo winches are not built to the quality and standard of a Warn they would be my second choice(mainly because i know the owner and its a local company so IF there was ever an issue i know it would be fixed promptly). also most all winches (under 10k lbs) are roughly the same size dimensionally, so if one fits the rest will. i dont know a bumper manufacture to make a bumper with such tight tolerances in the winch compartment as to not let one be fitted.
 
and a lot of older toyota guys run the winch on tube bumpers, in fact if the OP had a tube bumper the winch would work fine with no issues. integrated solenoid winches are made to be exposed to the elements ie out in the open like on a tube bumper or on the bumper of an older land cruiser or j**p, or on a mobile mount/carrier.

-all winches, Warn, sh*tybuilt, Ramsey, SuperWinch, Engo, Milemarker, what have you all have the same bolt patter as far as mounting is concerned. so if it fits one, it will fit another. Engo winches are nice, i know the owner and his father was the inverter and owner/founder of Milermarker. while Engo winches are not built to the quality and standard of a Warn they would be my second choice(mainly because i know the owner and its a local company so IF there was ever an issue i know it would be fixed promptly). also most all winches (under 10k lbs) are roughly the same size dimensionally, so if one fits the rest will. i dont know a bumper manufacture to make a bumper with such tight tolerances in the winch compartment as to not let one be fitted.

Not necessarily true. It will bolt to one of my bumpers, but the grill will need to be trimmed to fit it. We even recommend the non-integrated solenoid winches on our bumpers just like Jimmy does. They are designed to allow the winch to barely slide under the grill to not have to trim the grill.

To the OP, yes, you should buy it and sell it for more and then buy a Warn or equivalent winch with the non-integrated solenoid box.

To Dan: The point of buying a winch bumper is to buy the bumper that you want first. Then buy the proper winch to fit it. Not the other way around. Jimmy's bumpers are damn nice plate bumpers, and they fit a TON of winches that are just as good if not better than the XD9000i.
 
The FIRST thing I would do is talk him down to 150 and explain all the work you're gonna have to do to make it work and how you're doing HIM a favor by getting it off his hands. Keep it real!
 
Have a possible alternate to the Warn Winch.

Gentlemen, no need to fight over the Warn. I also have a winch for sale. Now let me first tell you I have NO IDEA about these things. I have educated myself a little and it seems that TOP OF THE LINE is a matter of preference between Warn and Ramsey. I have a Ramsey Pro9000 and I am also willing to let it go for what I am seeing is a fraction of what it is worth. This winch belonged to my recently passed uncle Dean who was a HUGE Jeep buff, in fact I think this winch pulled us out of a ravine or two while offroading. I cannot remember when he purchased this particular one and I know he had gotten a smaller one for aesthetic reasons so this was in his garage and I acquired it while preparing his home for sale after his passing. I do know my uncle was very proud of his Jeeps and the equipment he had installed so although I do not know for sure I believe it still operates, he really tried to take care of his equipment. I will part with it for $250.00. If interested please call me at (951) 220-3848 and I will send pics and do my best to give you any info you may need. Thank You.

Myles White
AlleyCatProDesign
Riverside, CA
(951) 220-3848

(I have no problem shipping, but remember this thing is big and heavy, shipping cost will need to be paid upfront)
 

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